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Misandrist Duck
Oct 22, 2012
http://online.wsj.com/articles/americans-cellphones-targeted-in-secret-u-s-spy-program-1415917533?mod=e2fb

The Wall Street Journal posted:

WASHINGTON—The Justice Department is scooping up data from thousands of cellphones through fake communications towers deployed on airplanes, a high-tech hunt for criminal suspects that is snagging a large number of innocent Americans, according to people familiar with the operations.

The U.S. Marshals Service program, which became fully functional around 2007, operates Cessna aircraft from at least five metropolitan-area airports, with a flying range covering most of the U.S. population, according to people familiar with the program.

Planes are equipped with devices—some known as “dirtboxes” to law-enforcement officials because of the initials of the Boeing Co. unit that produces them—which mimic cell towers of large telecommunications firms and trick cellphones into reporting their unique registration information.

The technology in the two-foot-square device enables investigators to scoop data from tens of thousands of cellphones in a single flight, collecting their identifying information and general location, these people said.

...

Cellphones are programmed to connect automatically to the strongest cell tower signal. The device being used by the U.S. Marshals Service identifies itself as having the closest, strongest signal, even though it doesn’t, and forces all the phones that can detect its signal to send in their unique registration information. Even having encryption on one’s phone, such as Apple Co. ’s iPhone 6 now includes, doesn’t prevent this process.

...

The program cuts out phone companies as an intermediary in searching for suspects. Rather than asking a company for cell-tower information to help locate a suspect, which law enforcement has criticized as slow and inaccurate, the government can now get that information itself. People familiar with the program say they do get court orders to search for phones, but it isn’t clear if those orders describe the methods used because the orders are sealed.


Hot dang, that is some good poo poo. You should read the whole thing

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A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!
i wish a cessna would have tricked you into not posting this thread

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




lol@this thread.

mods/mini mod (rotor), destroy this OP :chord:

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
i got pulled over by a police man and before we parted ways he said "now just let me get a cell phone # from ya" so i told him (my-area-code)330-8004 and was on my merry way but i assume it was for TRACKING purposes

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




lol

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Ricky Bad Posts posted:

i got pulled over by a police man and before we parted ways he said "now just let me get a cell phone # from ya" so i told him (my-area-code)330-8004 and was on my merry way but i assume it was for TRACKING purposes

that's Mike Jones' phone number!

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Broken Machine posted:

that's Mike Jones' phone number!

Who?

z0rlandi viSSer
Nov 5, 2013

Mike Jones, nigga

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
WHO?

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice


i don't think so tim

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3TEYlmpScY

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
im gonna punch u in the dirtbox, op

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

these things have been around for a while

pram
Jun 10, 2001
metadata

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
next thing police will have cameras in all bedrooms by law but ppl will b so numb becoz of metadata scrping ppl will b "what can we do?"

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
shoulda protested againt govt tracking anything st all

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

echinopsis posted:

shoulda protested againt govt tracking anything st all

you aren't so innocent either fellow five eyes nation NZ

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

all the UFO sheep abductions are actually spooks inserting fake cell towers into the sheep.

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


power botton posted:

you aren't so innocent either fellow five eyes nation NZ

lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

power botton posted:

you aren't so innocent either fellow five eyes nation NZ

what anytime im talking about privacy its about our privacy abusing poo poo givt


our govt hates us and lies 2 us daily and steals our data and smehow most of our population love it because they are happy with binge drinking and tv

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


a lot of the culture seems to revolve around swamps tbh

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

echinopsis posted:

smehow most of our population love it because they are happy with binge drinking and tv

sounds like paradise

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

power botton posted:

you aren't so innocent either fellow five eyes nation NZ

>:^]

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

echinopsis posted:

our govt hates us and lies 2 us daily and steals our data and smehow most of our population love it because they are happy with binge drinking and tv

NZ is a lot like Newfoundland

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
i, too, still read slashdot, op

Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

Mr Dog posted:

i, too, still read slashdot, op

I don't

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

echinopsis posted:

what anytime im talking about privacy its about our privacy abusing poo poo givt


our govt hates us and lies 2 us daily and steals our data and smehow most of our population love it because they are happy with binge drinking and tv

yea thats cause most ppl in america and the world arent libertarian ideologues and dont think privacy is the absolutely most important thing in the world

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


Least creative name for a country/province ever

It's like hitting enter and saving your document as "untitled document"

All the other countries now gotta start out as Newfoundland (1)

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Sagebrush posted:

Least creative name for a country/province ever

It's like hitting enter and saving your document as "untitled document"

All the other countries now gotta start out as Newfoundland (1)

the pigrims took off from plymouth and landed in plymouth

new york

new zealand

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
iceland

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
north island

south island

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Nov 16, 2002
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Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp
spoofing is only cracking if data is modified, and this only proves tower is a misnomer, since it is not the only way to position a raised relay beacon. i wonder if it would be possible to tether one to an anchored weather balloon

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

Izumi Konata posted:

spoofing is only cracking if data is modified, and this only proves tower is a misnomer, since it is not the only way to position a raised relay beacon. i wonder if it would be possible to tether one to an anchored weather balloon

wait until you hear how Fido got started

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

the pigrims took off from plymouth and landed in plymouth

new york

new zealand

we were Dutch founded and it was original neuvo zeeland or something, zeeland being a dutxh province

cremnob posted:

yea thats cause most ppl in america and the world arent libertarian ideologues and dont think privacy is the absolutely most important thing in the world

it's coz most people don't understand what they are trading away or dgaf about losing something even if others do. or how hard it will be to get back when the they realise how much they've lost


"I don't care if the govt reads my emails"

*govt makes romantic love illegal and the law is retroactive and anyone who told someone they loved one is tried as a criminal*

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
it's in your best interest to hate privacy because it makes you richer and you literally get off on others suffering so of course you'd say that


I'm more of a , history will repeat itself, you're naive if you don't think national socialism won't rear it's head pretty soon and then THEN people will realise how important things like tor and not having billion dollar spying networks would have been

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

echinopsis posted:

we were Dutch founded and it was original neuvo zeeland or something, zeeland being a dutxh province

i know

it's common knowledge

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

echinopsis posted:

we were Dutch founded and it was original neuvo zeeland or something, zeeland being a dutxh province


it's coz most people don't understand what they are trading away or dgaf about losing something even if others do. or how hard it will be to get back when the they realise how much they've lost


"I don't care if the govt reads my emails"

*govt makes romantic love illegal and the law is retroactive and anyone who told someone they loved one is tried as a criminal*

no its cause people are smarter and more pragmatic than the idiot bitches who are worried about hypothetical infringements on their liberty by the state

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

i know

it's common knowledge

not over here it isn't

I learnt that independently in my 20s

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

cremnob posted:

no its cause people are smarter and more pragmatic than the idiot bitches who are worried about hypothetical infringements on their liberty by the state

perhaps hypothetical ATM but when terrorism laws came in sum ppl said "they will be abused" and ppl like u said "it's more important to fight terrorism and support American imperialism"
and now something like only 3% of the time that ppl are arrested under terrorism laws [no reason given, just arrested for fun, using swat teams or whageer] are actually for terrorism things: those laws are used almost exclusively against American citizens

spying n poo poo is exactly the same

"we are only gonna use it to spy on terrorists"
*jimmy gets busted and jail for life for buying $20 of weed discovered through scanning everyone's sms messages*


and hence you just find it bad that apple makes it harder for state to spy on apple product users???

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