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drilldo squirt posted:Why would a creator be limited to relating to a single thing? I don't think you really understand what God is to a lot of people. What God really is to a lot of people is a blank slate upon which they can project all their fears and uncertainty and negative circumstances, and gain reassurance, meaning, etc. That's why he's not limited to relating to a single thing, he relates to whatever an individual needs him to relate to. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy. Lots of people thinking something doesn't make it so, especially when it's an untestable, unfalsifiable belief. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Kyrie eleison posted:There is no proof aside for the testimony of early Christians, the success of Christianity itself, and any subsequent miracles. We believe that miracles occur at every Mass, as the bread and wine is transubstantiated to the Body and Blood of Christ before our very eyes. Any scientific analysis will reveal it to have all of the properties of bread and wine, but in a similar way, we have Dr. Manhattan giving his opinion on the materially inobservable nature of life itself: That's a fallacy, though. A placebo can have a substantial medical effect on a believer, even though it has no actual medical effect whatsoever. For many people, believing something will have an effect literally makes it so - completely independent of the existence of any deity. How do you measure the spiritual effect of a consecrated Eucharist versus a plain cracker served during a mass? How would that compare to a humanistic control act, say some kind of community service that builds a similar emotional connection? In a sense religion is actually a rather selfish system since it's tying the "feel-good community bonding" experience to meaningless rituals rather than things that actually effect positive change in people's lives. Humanity would be better off with people giving an hour of community service every week instead of sitting in gilded buildings and jerking themselves off about how great they are. In terms of helping the needy and the poor - some of the core tenents of christiantiy - going to church is effectively and morally equivalent to sitting at home playing nintendo, or taking MDMA. It pushes your brain's buttons, but it's ultimately false and self-indulgent. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Nov 17, 2014 |
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