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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

currently i'm dreaming of a quarter million dollar nitrous-oxide-assisted laser cutter

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Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
if you need >70MHz it's that you're not working on audio circuits or old computers and that's the problem

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
well no, SPI will happily run up to 40 mhz and lol at looking at a 40 mhz square wave with a scope that samples at 25 ms/s (or even a 6 mhz square wave really, you're going to cut off harmonics and a perfectly clean clock is going to look like garbage)

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
yeah well in my hobbyist mind lol if your scope isnt analog

otherwise i have to agree at what you said

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

what's the fastest oscilloscope ever made and what exactly do they change to make a scope faster?

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

http://teledynelecroy.com/100ghz/ according to google

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Sagebrush posted:

what's the fastest oscilloscope ever made and what exactly do they change to make a scope faster?

godfuckingly fast opamps and components

every trace carefully laid out for min inductance and crosstalk

basically as close as you can get to manipulating the supernatural

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Jonny 290 posted:

basically as close as you can get to manipulating the supernatural

incorrect. yosvape is as close as you can get to manipulating the supernatural

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Jonny 290 posted:

godfuckingly fast opamps and components

every trace carefully laid out for min inductance and crosstalk

basically as close as you can get to manipulating the supernatural

agilent fabs their own frontend components on an InP process for their 90000 series, 32ghz of true analog bandwidth (that's the 5th harmonic of 12.5Gb/s and third of 21)

movax
Aug 30, 2008

and the probe tips are ceramic and break really easily, which is sad because they're really goddamned expensive

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Jonny 290 posted:

godfuckingly fast opamps and components

every trace carefully laid out for min inductance and crosstalk

basically as close as you can get to manipulating the supernatural

how do you make an opamp faster?

I know very little about semiconductor physics but it's always fascinating to me

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

you make it out of better physics

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

like GaAs

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

or GaInAs :xd: what a name

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

I'm an expert in applied gasinass physics

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

oh hello are we talking about III-Arsenides???

GaInAs is funny but most people use InGaAs.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

DNova posted:

oh hello are we talking about III-Arsenides???

GaInAs is funny but most people use InGaAs.

Are they meaningfully different? Idk poo poo about chemistry or detailed semiconductor physics I just like saying gay in rear end more than in gas

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Bloody posted:

Yeah but only if by decent you mean expensive and horribly complex

Or at least expensive

Actually I'm not sure if it's expensive but the igloo nano dev kit is pretty cute and painless. Digilent (I think?) makes some decent educational stuff too iirc

We used digilent stuff in my intro to EE class I took this semester and it was pretty cool stuff. It was a prerequisite for my CS degree for some reason and I got a 1.3 in it but I did learn a valuable lesson: I will never regret not going into EE and now I know I will never want to do embedded anything unless it involves me being embedded in my grave

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Bloody posted:

Are they meaningfully different? Idk poo poo about chemistry or detailed semiconductor physics I just like saying gay in rear end more than in gas

They are exactly the same thing written different ways. It's somewhat important to come to a consensus though because when you don't, literature search can be a real pain in the rear end. Unfortunately, that is essentially what happened. I'm working on a quaternary material so I have to search for a bunch of combinations. At least everyone agrees to put the group Vs at the end.

Tin Gang
Sep 27, 2007

Tin Gang posted:

showering has no effect on germs and is terrible for your skin. there is no good reason to do it
this thing's been sitting around forever and I finally tested it. it works fine



there should be some use for it

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Tin Gang posted:

this thing's been sitting around forever and I finally tested it. it works fine



there should be some use for it

give it to me please and thank you

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Tin Gang posted:

this thing's been sitting around forever and I finally tested it. it works fine



there should be some use for it

:3: awwww

Tin Gang
Sep 27, 2007

Tin Gang posted:

showering has no effect on germs and is terrible for your skin. there is no good reason to do it
also while testing junk I realized the old adjustable dc power supply I have is rated for up to 6 amps :eyepop:

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Tin Gang posted:

also while testing junk I realized the old adjustable dc power supply I have is rated for up to 6 amps :eyepop:

apply it to your nipples

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

a thread about using oscilloscopes: apply it to your nipples

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
what do you call a decorative component on your 'board?

a tchotchke diode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Lmfao

movax
Aug 30, 2008

bobbilljim posted:

what do you call a decorative component on your 'board?

a tchotchke diode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

bobbilljim posted:

what do you call a decorative component on your 'board?

a tchotchke diode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:manning:

Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

?
dear robot nerds, can yall recommend a site for buying tiny mechanical parts e.g. gears, shaft couplers, shafts, & the like? i have some tiny little stepper motors and want to step tiny little things

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.

movax posted:

agilent fabs their own frontend components on an InP process for their 90000 series, 32ghz of true analog bandwidth (that's the 5th harmonic of 12.5Gb/s and third of 21)

i've seen die shots of that thing, they're large enough that they had to make microstrip lines inside it to carry the signal to the actual ADC banks

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Base Emitter posted:

dear robot nerds, can yall recommend a site for buying tiny mechanical parts e.g. gears, shaft couplers, shafts, & the like? i have some tiny little stepper motors and want to step tiny little things

mcmaster

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

theres also robotshop.com for more complete assemblies

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
check out this retro bit janitoring! a 68K single-board computer with ISA slots? boy howdy!

I first read this when it was a series of articles in Radio-Electronics magazine in 1987, it was in large part how I learned to read schematics and how computer hardware all fit together at the low level

does anyone even make cases for the PC-XT form factor any more?

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

eschaton posted:

does anyone even make cases for the PC-XT form factor any more?

yes, but they're aimed at the industrial market and priced accordingly

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

hardware owns



e. I'm all the switches with the "enable" label on the wrong side of the switch. And the hand.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

have a scope too

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Mr. Despair posted:

have a scope too



Tek :swoon:

I was looking at those Saleae logic analyzers someone mentioned but it looks like, for the price of their 16ch model, I could get a used HP 1660CS with probes

136 channels! LAN interface with X11!

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Have an oldschool tek (the cool tek that isn't broken like the one above, rip channel 4) too



Both are better than the rigol that died months ago and afaik is lost in the abyss of rigol's rma service or something.

Dr. Despair fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Dec 24, 2014

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Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Tek 24xx series are v nice scope

imo some of the best 4 channels scope of all time

is that some P11 phosphor? (option 78 i think)

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