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hecko posted:But every candidate needs a certain % of the votes to be able to participate in the general election so a lot of those unified list wont even get that many votes.
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Is that really such an issue? I thought the success of the evangelicals in Latin America is that they would target specific communities with a more intensive level of effort that the Catholic church could hope to bring to bear. Since the Catholics are spread all over the country, and the evangelicals don't (or didn't, at least when they started) have to "defend" their flock they could disproportionately target certain sectors. Of course I'm not talking about people with money here, as they wouldn't be really affected by a higher level of that kind of attention. Furthermore, I'm sure we have all met plenty of people who self-identify as Catholic and attend service who have no problem being dickheads, spurning any ideas of communal values, and voting for people spouting reactionary coupist dialogue. I don't necessarily believe that evangelicals are specifically more "soulless" than Catholics. As noted above, I remember at least in Argentina, that organisations of the major religions don't have an issue in banding together when its time to go up to bat for "traditional family values" and oppose anything remotely progressive, feminist, or pro-lgbt as much as they can.
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Grouchio posted:I was hypothesizing future Brazil acting like China and all the Spanish South American countries banding together in a coalition against them. Which yes is a stupid theory.
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Aug 24, 2015 22:24
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The thing to rescue from this night is that a candidate who openly stated that his favourite politician was Trotsky got over 3% of the vote  the time is now comrades
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Azran posted:http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/imagen-Macri-Scioli-juntos-revoluciona_0_1461454040.html If a Junta will stop the animes then I'm all for it.
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Azran posted:I'm loving loving this ballotage. 
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Nov 17, 2015 21:39
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hecko posted:A couple of days ago I found this graphic about the relation between economic growth and inequality in Argentina since 1986. This is fantastic, you can easily see that everything is hosed up and therefore corresponds exactly to Argentina.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:21
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hecko posted:Macro considers himself a Peronist so it's time for some 90's neoliberal peronism. The default state of existence is Peronism. There is no other course of action but to embrace it.
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Nov 23, 2015 18:51
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Badger of Basra posted:That sucks. I liked watching Encuentro when I was there. They've already said that they are scrapping 6,7,8 (good riddance). I do hope Meeting Channel isn't utterly gutted.
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Nov 24, 2015 19:52
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I like Barcelona.
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Nov 24, 2015 23:41
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Nov 25, 2015 17:53
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Elias_Maluco posted:yeah, I know, but isn't Kirchnerism a kind of Peronism 
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bagual posted:edit : oh yeah and apparently there's support straight from syrian kurdistan apparently I hope all the homosexual homeless in São Paulo seize the reigns of government or whatever it is that they want
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Markovnikov posted:Don't worry, our lord and saviour Macri (PBUH) will just roll it all back so the middle class can go back to its Miami vacations. It is my strong belief that the intention behind putting a lot of these plans in motion (a lot of which are good in implementation regardless of motive, such as the Universal Subsidy per Child) was an electoral strategy. Had they seriously believed that the plans were good in and of themselves, then they would have legislated the plans into existence (or ratified them once already in place) through proper laws, and made them necessitate a parliamentary process in order to be overturned. This is of course no excuse to a lot of the people who oppose these plans precisely because of pearl-clutching reasons.
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I'm throwing my own presidential ceremony, with blackjack and hookers, you guys can come.
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Say what you want about Videla but he never held a dance and karaoke contest in the presidential palace
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Badger of Basra posted:I think what we all really want to know is who got to keep the Casa Rosada twitter account?
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Markovnikov posted:Confirming this. When the exchange restrictions started a couple of years ago, there was some effort to stop real state transactions in dollars. Which I think lead to no transactions at all being done? Full accelerationism comrade! The strategy is to secure loans for the short/medium term while they restructure things. The point of all this is to restart exports and local businesses while demonstrating viability and institutional stability in the eyes of the worldwide bond markets. Whether or not this will work is up for debate.
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Isn't it also entirely possible that if you are not a fertile-age woman you still get bitten, take it back to wherever you come from, and then potentially get bitten by a local mosquito? I'm sure the probability is low but with the Olympics you have hundreds of thousands of people moving around.
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Badger of Basra posted:I had assumed that was how it was spreading in the first place. Is it some other way? Or maybe it is that Brazilians are monkeys indigenous to the Zika tropical forest of Uganda. 
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:The Leading candidate for the Peruvian elections atm is the daughter of ex-president Fujimori, who was convicted for corruption and ethnic cleansing by sterilizing hundreds of indigenous women. *sad trombone* Fujishock butthurt itt
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Badger of Basra posted:vcs têm o look preparado pra amanhã???? Sink this loving continent into the ocean
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Really disappointed in the Lula news. This just makes everything seem even more corrupt.
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Brasil should follow the example of their ever more wise European neighbours who now ready themselves to kiss the ring next week.
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The police wouldn't bother someone unless they had done something to deserve it. These people are just holding a demonstration in a calm and collected manner. If anything, they should count on the cooperation of the security services.
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It's the same thing in Argentina and many other Latin American countries. The military has, by now, somehow been purged of actual coupist officers. Either through legal process, by being made to resign, or (as in most cases) just quietly put through retirement, early if possible. Considering that the military dictatorships are now up to 25+ years past, military institutions and those in them are respectful of democratic government, or at the very least know to shut their mouths. The court of public opinion, however...
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Azran posted:This was posted at my uni yesterday. A sizeable part of the country feels like this, I suppose.
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My flatmate's room is a quilombo, its very disorganized.
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Macri has a presidential snapchat now
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Jambo Jambos posted:He hasn't created a silly inflexible 1 to 1 conversion and kept it until all industries were uncompetitive.
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joepinetree posted:The likely new minister of science and technology in the Temer government: Well? Did it work?
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joepinetree posted:List of cabinet positions Temer is merging or eliminating:
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joepinetree posted:Brazil had something called "clausula de barreira" but it was found to be unconstitutional. There is an attempt to recreate it, but it has been slow going. Yessssssssss. I mean if it's all going to be poo poo then you may as well run it into the ground at full speed. I've always said that Maradona would make a wonderful electoral candidate
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Pochoclo posted:*Reads south-american newspapers*
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punk rebel ecks posted:What interests me about Latin America is that while much of the world is still running head first into neoliberal politics, Latin America as a whole seems to be moving from it or at least putting up some what of a fight. Sure there have been some nations that have drowned themselves due to this (such as Venezuela) but others have put in a good run (Bolivia). In short, there seems to be a lot of political experimentation going on down there with intrigues me to a degree.
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icantfindaname posted:so what's the deal with argentina, why has their modern history been so totally dominated by hilariously awful peronists? like i can understand other countries in latin america having bad populist management when the black or native people rise up and seize power, but argentina is all germans and italians? it makes no sense It's not surrounded by water like Australia so the non whites can just walk in instead of drown
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icantfindaname posted:so what's the deal with argentina, why has their modern history been so totally dominated by hilariously awful peronists? like i can understand other countries in latin america having bad populist management as a result of being insanely unequal societies, but argentina is all germans and italian immigrants and presumably was a much less unequal society? it makes no sense If you want it in two sentences: The Peronist party represents the populist wing of anti-democratic, anti-republican views in Argentine politics; the oligarchic elite and traditionalist elements of the armed forces make up the conservative wing of this same line of thought. By being first-movers in terms of mass political mobilization, always establishing rent-seeking party strategies, and ensuring political appropriation of state elements, the Peronist party (and all its factions) have been able to insert themselves in every nook and cranny of Argentine social and government institutions. Here is a rambling explanation where I will try to describe the first Peronism to give an idea of what happened. In 1943 there is a coup d'état, Perón is at this time a mid-level officer, and is a reference point for quite a few other officers of equal or lower standing. Initially the secretary to the Minister of War (Ad. Farrell), he is then made chief of the Department for Labour. The syndicates are initially sympathetic to the coup government, because they were seen as having replaced an even more reactionary and conservative government. Perón loses no time in making connections and friends among the leadership of the union. Perón places high-ups of the unions in his department, and they start to have a symbiotic relationship, with Perón intervening in some industrial disputes. At the end of the year the department is upgraded to the Secretariat of Labour (still not Minister-level). In 1944, Admiral Farrell conducts a palace coup, makes himself president, and makes Perón Vice-President, and then a few months later also Minister of War, occupying all 3 posts at once. At this point, Perón is directly participating in union congresses and pushes through a rural workers reform (which was badly needed). In 1945 Argentina declares war on Nazi Germany and Japan in an effort to break the diplomatic isolation of the country, and the US sends Ambassador Braden as a gesture. Large sectors of the upper and middle classes, which respectfully formed the backbones of the previous conservative and liberal administrations begin to come together in opposition to the Farrell-Perón military regime, Braden openly supports them. The syndicates start to feel under threat, and both sides carry out mass demonstrations. Elements within the military start to feel that this is all a bit too much, so they attempt to remove Perón, arresting him. The syndicates mobilize in force, identifying as openly Peronist, and Perón is released and returns to Buenos Aires to address the massive crowds (17 October). In 1946 there are elections, and Perón wins 56% in a free and fair process. Perón immediately takes advantage of the very positive economic situation of Argentina and begins to create welfare institutions and to populate these new state institutions with Peronists. Counting with the support of the working class, the syndicate leadership, and a reasonable chunk of the military, Perón continuously pushes the boundaries of the state, but always ensuring to be adding political clients and entrenching his followers. In education, for example, they built new schools and universities, but at the same time reworked curriculums and ensured that teachers were Peronists. Media rights were expanded, and traditionally large newspapers were curtailed. However, opposition media was constrained and censored constantly, often being pressured into shutting down. Police forces were reworked and expanded, but filled with Peronists (to this day the Buenos Aires Police is basically a Peronist mafia organisation). The syndicates became a key weapon of the government, with the leadership firmly loyal and in many cases also state employees (please keep in mind that during all of this they would happily make deals with gigantic oligopoly companies if it was good for them). At the same time, the government was quick to detain communist or socialist politicians and syndicalists, forcing some into exile and murdering others. Unfortunately for Perón, the mismanagement of the economy, corruption, and a suddenly not-stellar economic context meant that the state started to have a constrained budget, and could not simply keep everyone complacent. Strikes begin to occur, antiperonists begin to get violent, and social discontent mounts. Nevertheless, Perón wins the next election in 1952, with the opposition (mainly the UCR) greatly harassed, and with the Peronists counting with the female vote, which had just been given suffrage. However, the social tension does not dissipate. Evita dies a few months afterwards, and is declared Spiritual Chief of the Nation. Perón basically doubles down, and deepens all efforts to expand through the state. Political fighting increases from both sides, big enterprises start backing away from the government. In 1954 the situation begins to become unsustainable, and Perón manages to get the church (who so far had backed him) to oppose him, by making too much of a cult out of Evita and by putting forward a law to legalize divorces. In 1955 everything comes to a boil and in June the Navy bombs the presidential palace and kills lots of civilians, In retaliation, the Peronists start burning down churches. Perón tries to calm things down (for once), but it is far too late. Even though he stops censoring opposition politicians and the discourse does not calm down. Perón, as many times before, decided to go for double-or-nothing and basically makes a speech declaring open season on political opponents. Street fighting continues and the country becomes incredibly tense and polarized. In September the conservative elements in the military strike and coup Perón, who promptly escapes to various other Latin American dictatorships before finding a safe haven with Franco. So that was a complete shitshow right? Imagine three more Peronist governments, covering the periods 1973-76; 1989-1999; and 2001-2015.
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