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Hello, Argentinian here, I'm suffering a mix of shame and surprise.  Ghost of Mussolini posted:It's rather tenuous and fantastical to think that the President ordered this man killed, but it is evident that he clearly knew something, or was extremely close to discovering something important. This is probably an internal fix. Yes, I would agree with this. I have absolutely no love for the current government, but a) it's pretty clear it was a murder and not a suicide and b) it's incredibly shameful, no matter who killed him. Anyways, nice to see you here!
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I don't see the point of killing yourself in a position like the one he was in. I do think it could be possible he was forced to commit suicide, maybe some relatives of his were threatened if he didn't.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:15
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Badger of Basra posted:The investigating prosecutor said she's not ruling that out yet. Apparently he had asked to borrow the pistol from someone in his office that he shot himself with, weird. CSI better make an episode out of this or something.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:42
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Pretty Boy Floyd posted:Apparently he owned a .32? According to this journalist: https://twitter.com/ntarnopolsky Especially in his situation - if you know you're willingly balls deep into something that might well kill you/severly hurt you and your family, I don't really see him just killing himself like this.
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Jan 20, 2015 19:46
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papasyhotcakes posted:Is that a parody newspaper? It has to be.
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Jan 22, 2015 22:19
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Nothing beats all the people I see day to day that think this is just: - A plot to make our current government look bad (as if they needed help) - A cover up for the TRUE KILLER: the media (or any particular media person, like Jorge Lanata) - Another Jewish crime, where Israel wants to keep the truth hidden. - A drug deal gone wrong that has absolutely nothing to do with anything else. I did find a particularly funny quote today: quote:This crime will never be resolved and the truth will be never be revealed... because the truth is just a subjective construction made by individuals or groups of individuals. Ergo, truth as a concept is invalid.  Seriously though, I hope nothing happens to Pachter. Azran fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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Jan 25, 2015 21:37
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I just re read that post, and did he just imply Pacther killed Nisman. Please tell me that this was said by someone of consequence, and not just from the comments section of a news site.  [/quote] Sadly, no - just a friend of mine. It was still pretty funny.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:17
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On non-murder related Argentinian news, it's incredible the amount of poo poo you have to go through to get a loving BOARDGAME into the country.
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Jan 27, 2015 03:07
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papasyhotcakes posted:What happened? I remember seeing you had some trouble in the boardgame thread. I basically bought three boardgames and a brush for my brother's rabbit. I ordered it through Amazon the 3rd of January, got into the country the 7th. It's been there since - DHL (the ones supposed to deliver it) went on holidays and refused to answer any calls/any mails while at the same time giving absolutely no notice at all of their holidays. So it's been stuck in customs since then. Today they contacted me telling me I have to fulfill some online form regarding imports that weight less than 50kg and are less than a thousand dollars. Sure, whatever. I go into the website and hey there, I need a fiscal code. Which I do not have due to my economical situation (unemployed uni student, the order was a new year gift). Contacted the AFIP (Federal Administration of Public Income) and everything's hinting towards me having to register myself as a monotributist, which is a category mostly applied to self-employed individuals and small enterprises, which I am neither. It would imply having to pay a tax due to profit, for supposedly earning a certain amount of money I don't actually earn (but it's the expected amount for a monotributist), which is kind of a tall order if that's what they expect me to do to finally get my freaking shipment. Currently contacting Amazon to see what are the rules on returning stuff that's just stuck in customs. I'm going to go in person to the closest AFIP agency and see what the hell I can do, but I'm not too hopeful. Last time I ordered from Amazon, two years ago, the books I ordered got through just fine - though a month and a half after they entered the country. Now it's just a mess.
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Jan 27, 2015 09:16
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papasyhotcakes posted:Jesús it sure sounds like one. Importing stuff is a massive pain in the rear end for all LatAm as far as I know (I tried to import some warmachine a little while ago and it took about two months to arrive) Hope it is solved soon and you can get your products or at least your money back. Thanks! I did not know other LatAm countries were having sinilar issues.
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Jan 27, 2015 10:31
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I dont know posted:Shouldn't that be the Falkland Islands? We don't need that many boats for Uruguay. 
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Jan 27, 2015 21:26
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papasyhotcakes posted:Jesús it sure sounds like one. Importing stuff is a massive pain in the rear end for all LatAm as far as I know (I tried to import some warmachine a little while ago and it took about two months to arrive) Hope it is solved soon and you can get your products or at least your money back. Amazon understood my situation and refunded the totality of the payment, including the $75 tax for getting stuff into the country. I'm amazed, and really happy.
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Jan 28, 2015 08:55
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Ali Express, I'd bet. As an aside, it's pretty funny whenever I go to my uni's social sciences floor, because it's full of outright Marxist analogies, slogans and even some anti-Israel posters here and there. After doing a lot of reading on North Korea and Stalin's USSR, some of these are way too funny because they are SO similar.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:26
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Future Days posted:I remember our local commie party had a huge banner that featured Mao, Stalin, and Che Guevara back in the 2007 elections. One of my professors talked about how he was preparing a speech about imperialist aggression towards our North Korean brothers, and how there's never been any trustworthy sources of any kind of human right violations in North Korea. He was dead serious about it,
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Jan 31, 2015 03:02
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Good times.
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Feb 2, 2015 08:13
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rockopete posted:I'm not super familiar with Argentinean (Argentine?) politics, but from what I've heard, Cristina Kirchner was a sleazy, corrupt, authoritarian shitheel long before Nisman was shot. Is this a correct impression? This is objectively true, yes. I'm not going to jump to conclusions re: who had a hand in either incident (AMIA bombings/Nisman's death) though, because while I would love to see the President being involved as further proof of her "terrible person and stateswoman" status, it would be SERIOUSLY lovely to say "hey guys, I'm from the country where my current president has had a hand in terrorist acts against their own people".  That said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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Feb 4, 2015 01:13
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http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1765084-jorge-capitanich-ahora-rompe-notas-de-clarin-en-vivo Capitanich, Chief of the Cabinet of Ministers (also a huge corrupt inept), decided to tear apart a newspaper stating that in a public press conference. Some days ago, he also decided to showcase his acting talent
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Feb 4, 2015 01:27
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Markovnikov posted:Eh, depends on who you ask. The Kirchner's did some good things (pulled the country out of the ashes of the economic crisis) and some bad things (ton of shady poo poo). Still better than Menem. Still better than most of the possible candidates in the upcoming elections. Seriously, Macri is going to win and the roaring 90's will be back in full force. First of all a disclaimer - I don't have sympathy for any side of the Argentinian political spectrum. That said, I don't think anyone should take Menem as the bar one has to clear to be a "good president" because holy poo poo that's a low bar. I do agree some good things happened during the Kirchner governments - I mean, I did vote for Cristina's re-election. (  )I think La Campora is one of the worst things to come out of them though. Markovnikov posted:You joke, but half the country thinks this of every non-peronist president, while the other half thinks this about every peronist president. I find it disgusting that 40 years after his death, his handless corpse still warps the political landscape of the country. Agreed. Markovnikov posted:Clarin is such garbage that I don't blame him. It's quality has nosedived (if it ever had any, too young to remember) to near Cronica-like reporting. Agreed as well! I just find it really childish.
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Feb 4, 2015 01:52
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Markovnikov posted:Well there are not many presidents I can compare to in recennt history. This side of the end of the military regime you've got Alfonsin, Menem, de la Rua (lol), and the however many presidents we had between de la Rua taking the last helicopter out of the Casa Rosada and the Kirchners. So a lot of very bad ones, and Alfonsin who I think is viewed in a rather positive light, rampant inflation during his period notwithstanding. That is, indeed, a very good point. Nevermind me.
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Feb 4, 2015 02:18
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You start to understand the Argentinian political mentality when you realize that state officials can publicly announce public works like a mega-stadium (in the case of my city) or a bullet train (in the case of Buenos Aires), have nothing ever materialize out of it (while money spent vanishes), and no one ever saying nothing at all about it ever again, and having people just say "yeah, whatever, this is normal". In my city, the governor (not the current one) decided to create a mega-stadium. They constructed the structure, but the roof had some immense issues that would lead to a cave-in or just flat out collapse of the structure if it was put in place. So they just dumped the project and the structure is just sitting there, unused, in the public lagoon. It's been like this for what, 7-10 years?
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Feb 4, 2015 02:56
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hecko posted:Azran: De donde sos? La Pampa. Please don't send death squads Also holy poo poo that link: "Female human trafficking is a feminist invention to make man kneel to them"
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Feb 4, 2015 05:15
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Then you have a post by him explaining why hackers want to "hacker" his escort website?
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Feb 4, 2015 07:48
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GreyjoyBastard posted:A month ago I'd be able to make a Sri Lanka joke. Now I really want to know about Sri Lanka's politics!
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Feb 4, 2015 10:10
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Gas country ban Cristina.
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Feb 4, 2015 22:20
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And most of my countrymen are insanely xenophobic so for a lot of people it's a 'high five sick nasty' moment.
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Feb 6, 2015 12:07
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My president is getting imputated for the whole thing it seems? 
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Feb 14, 2015 05:49
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Did anyone else hear what Lilita Carrio has been saying lately? That auto coup d' etat and all that. People are linking it to the disappearance of bullets and an ATGM from military buildings. Personally, I think an ATGM would sell for a fairly decent price in the black market, even if it's a Dragon II or whatever we use here
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Feb 27, 2015 16:15
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:The auto-golpe thing isn't about violence on the streets etc, if anything of that sort happens (I don't think it will) it would be something akin to the fujigolpe. However I don't think its possible, Argentine institutions may have deteriorated considerably, but its not 1992 Peru. Yup. I just find funny that people are freaking out about the ATGM when it's like one, only useful against armored vehicles and requires a trained specialist to operate. I'm 99% sure it got stolen to sell it off somewhere else.
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Feb 27, 2015 19:51
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I will never not be angry that San Martin is only on the $5 bill. He should be on the $100 one 
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Mar 13, 2015 17:04
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:God gave every Argentine three virtues, from which he could choose any two: intelligence, honesty, and peronism  Markovnikov posted:The thing to remember about the uno a uno was that the middle class loving loved it. They were finally able to buy all the fancy poo poo they wanted, and take their trips to Europe and Miami like the good nouveau riche they aspired to be. The counterbalance to that was the lower classes suffering, due to the loss of competitiveness of the local industry and agriculture that employed them. I was a child of the 90's, so I still behave somewhat spoiled when nowadays with our hosed exchange rate I can't get all the shiny toys I would like to (as mentioned before in the thread, importing things is also a nightmare due to stricter customs controls too). I've been called a burgeoise patrician a couple times for saying I'd love to import some designer boardgames. It never stops being funny. Markovnikov posted:Oh yeah seeing those bills you are right, it was probably the Australes. Wasn't there a 1 million one too? Markovnikov posted:Margaret Thactcher was a bad person, and the Malvinas war was a bad war (if the concept of a good war even exists). You don't have to root for one or the other. Pretty much. I still have a knee jerk reaction to people trying to make it seem like the Argentinians were the good guys, if only because our own countrymen died there. I mean, I understand if you are a vet or a vet's relative, but holy poo poo never defend an invasion what's wrong with you  It's like when that one guy in my class said we should support ISIS because they are allies against imperialistic America.
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Mar 13, 2015 23:00
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Markovnikov posted:Anyone in Latin America who calls for a military takeover should have their genitals connected to a car battery until they understand/remember what the latest coups in the region were like. Or maybe I'm misremembering and the last one in Brazil wasn't so bad? Comedy answer Nº2: Sulla.
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Mar 17, 2015 06:46
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People who diss milanesa have no soul. Now, mate? I can understand.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:13
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joepinetree posted:Let me provide some of the Olavo de Carvalho highlights to the uninitiated: I refuse to believe this man exists.
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Apr 1, 2015 21:28
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I would love a new general thread.
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Apr 8, 2015 21:41
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I'm having a hard time getting my head around the terceirizção thing. Can't Dilma veto it so it isn't effective for at least couple years/till someone else gets into the presidency? Is there any place where I can read the particulars re: how both companies (the "outsourced" and the "outsourcing") don't share responsibilities? It sounds too surreal to be true.
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Apr 11, 2015 17:56
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He also moonlights as one of the hosts in School for Husbands, an amazingly awful show.
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Apr 27, 2015 23:04
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I am a big opponent of the whole "POLITICS ARE MEANT TO BE FELT, NOT REASONED" stance Peronism takes. Or at least Kirchnerism. No gently caress that, that's how you get this situation. People will vote peronists with complete disregard just because they are peronists and they have always voted peronists. I am amazed by the Campora's desperation as of late too - last night one of my classmates, who is in the Campora, told me if I had heard the good news. When I said no he explained me that, according to what big honchos of the movement had told them, Argentina was currently the leading economy of the region and some european countries were planning to apply some Kirchnerist teachings into their economies. I had instant flashbacks to Kim Il-Sung.
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Yggdrassil posted:Given that Venezuela has it's own thread, i'm toying with the idea of starting an Argentinian thread. Please do. I hope we eventually get our own Borneo Jimmy.
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Apr 29, 2015 22:00
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Unrelated but it reminds me of that one time in a 20th Century Politics class where they showed a video of ISIS using T55s and other Soviet equipment and the professor claiming "See? American equipment denotes this as a false flag operation of sorts".
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Badger of Basra posted:Is this the same professor that told you Hitler died in Argentina? Nah, different one. That was a the History of Social Processes professor. This one was a Geo-Political professor Anyways, on topic now - I've spent quite a bit of my free time lately reading on the regimes with horrible human rights records, namely Stalinist Soviet Russia and North Korea. I've heard enough about the Venezuelan shitshow in the Venezuelan Politics therad, but what about Cuba? How totalitarian has Castro's regimen been? Is it closer to China's "yeah we don't really care about human rights and democracy but we are pretty functional" than Venezuela's "oh god everything falling apart"?
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