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BULLETKISS
Jul 3, 2003

Yeah I'm in CENTCOM and I'm not impressed so far.

So I might have been saved because people pissed off my boss so she's not going all out. She gonna get a pre-made door covering from Party City that looks like a wrapped present and call it a day. Works for me.

Thanks for the decorating ideas though. They made me laugh and I needed that today.

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xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

BULLETKISS posted:

My boss told me to plan to stay late on Friday so we can decorate the office door for the Holiday Door Decorating Contest. *sigh*

Anyone have ideas of how we should decorate so I'll never get told to do this again? (Not that I'll still be here next year, but these people take decorating way too seriously.)

I am really looking forward to this CENTCOM deployment.

I got my job, it's manned by three Majors right now... Joint Air Ops Desk... whatever that is. As far as I can tell, it's to make sure that a phone is answered 24/7.

BULLETKISS
Jul 3, 2003

xaarman posted:

Joint Air Ops Desk
Not sure if that's different than the Joint Operations Cell, which is to also answer a phone 24/7, but the place is so large I barely know any of the shops around here.

Get ready to get a bunch of additional duties dumped on you even though you're only there for a few months. I have 20 additional duties. It's ri-goddamn-diculous. I did read in one of the regs that the rep has to be a permanent party person and I made them give it to someone else. I'm going to end up being that person who reads all the regs because I'll be damned if I'm stuck with all this stuff.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

xaarman posted:

I am really looking forward to this CENTCOM deployment.

I got my job, it's manned by three Majors right now... Joint Air Ops Desk... whatever that is. As far as I can tell, it's to make sure that a phone is answered 24/7.

I thought that job was subsumed by a mirc window years ago.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Godholio posted:

I thought that job was subsumed by a mirc window years ago.

Gotta have somebody (or at least a phone #) to call when no one answers the mirc message

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I honestly don't know what you'd do anyway. We always just called our CAOC LNO and he'd (I'd) walk over to the appropriate desk and ask the question or whatever.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Godholio posted:

(I'd) walk over to the appropriate desk and ask the question or whatever.
"No."

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
:lol:

It was usually something like "What are your guys trying to do besides get shot down by HIMARS?"

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
I've been an LNO for a deployment in the CAOC before. BULLETKISS, it might be the same thing, who knows. I'll call em up eventually. When are you out of there?


My favorite mIRC line:

sender: cip
me: no

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I was there at the end of 2011. With Contractor HDI, who was also an LNO, and a mutual friend from training. Also two of my old instructors, a former nav and a pilot from my squadron, an ADO from one of the other AWACS squadrons, a NATO AWACS LNO we knew from training, and I think I knew the C2 Plans guy but I can't remember who it was. Not what I expected when I showed up on the floor.

Edit: I managed to get sarcasm across mirc a couple of times. I didnt think anyone was picking up on it until I got a phone call from a crew after they landed. I wish to hell I could remember what it was, but apparently the controllers were laughing hard enough they lost track of what was going on.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Dec 11, 2014

Helldump Immunity.
Aug 2, 2013

Fuck you
God I loved being a contractor LNO. I got paid a shitload to just chill out and sit by mIRC and make fun of Godholio for still wearing the uniform. No additional duties, just mIRC. loving owned.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

xaarman posted:

I've been an LNO for a deployment in the CAOC before.
Ditto. If I ever have to go back, it'll be too soon.

GoGoGadget
Apr 29, 2006

Just received my MEB status today. 70% disability from the VA and 60% from the AF. It equals out to me having stayed in 20 years and retired as a MSgt but I did four years and am only a SSgt select. I'll have to work on my posting quality, Shim is my hero.

Edit: make that TSgt at 20

GoGoGadget fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Dec 11, 2014

BULLETKISS
Jul 3, 2003

xaarman posted:

When are you out of there?

End of April or early May.

Mister Man
Nov 22, 2006

IWHBYD...

GoGoGadget posted:

Just received my MEB status today. 70% disability from the VA and 60% from the AF. It equals out to me having stayed in 20 years and retired as a MSgt but I did four years and am only a SSgt select. I'll have to work on my posting quality, Shim is my hero.

Edit: make that TSgt at 20

Congrats! My package is in the process of being submitted right now. How long did the entire process take for you?

GoGoGadget
Apr 29, 2006

Mister Man posted:

Congrats! My package is in the process of being submitted right now. How long did the entire process take for you?

The entire process? I had my heart surgery in August 2012. My MEB wasn't started until like May 2014 because they wanted to wait and see if I'd recover. My package was submitted to the VA in early June. Just got the results today. You can keep track of it on the VA e-benefits site, under View My Status and then Compensation and Pension Claims Status. Then you have to click your claim and it will show a progress bar. I was getting updates faster from the site than from the MEB office up until the final decision, which still isn't updated in the site. But I may have gotten that early because I am medical myself.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Dead Reckoning posted:

Ditto. If I ever have to go back, it'll be too soon.

Really? Where at that your experience was so bad?

I was a USSOUTHCOM CAOC LNO... I worked 8 hours a day, once every 3 days in Tucson, Arizona. I had an off base corporate apartment and a GMC Envoy with free gas.

It was pretty awesome.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

xaarman posted:

Really? Where at that your experience was so bad?

USCENTCOM, aka USSATAN'sRELECTIVEBELTENCIRCLEDANUSCOM.

I hate you.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Dude once you live in the Better People's Compound life there isn't bad. It's usually boring as gently caress but it's PERFECT for working on a degree.

Edit: by all accounts Dhafra is worse now.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



So how bad is the CAOC these days? I just got tapped to go there for comm support. On the one hand, I assume it can't be as lovely as my time in Afghanistan as an Army augmentee.

On the other hand, it's an AOC.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Which CAOC? SOUTHCOM was awesome 3 years ago.

Dead Reckoning posted:

USCENTCOM, aka USSATAN'sRELECTIVEBELTENCIRCLEDANUSCOM.

I hate you.


Hahahahahhahahahaaaa so you're out in 3 months though right?

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Godholio posted:

Dude once you live in the Better People's Compound life there isn't bad. It's usually boring as gently caress but it's PERFECT for working on a degree.

Edit: by all accounts Dhafra is worse now.
The job itself wasn't so bad (although it was extremely stressful) but I genuinely hated about half of the people I had to work with.
Also, gently caress the trailers and those stank, petri dish showers forever.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Yeah I'll agree with that. I had a bunch of cool folks on my shift, even the marine O-6 that ran things from upstairs.

Those showers are far and away better than Dhafras though.

Helldump Immunity.
Aug 2, 2013

Fuck you
The scif was a loving blast. Since we were not constantly watched over like the ops floor, we pretty much chilled and watched tv/hosed off.

e:

the bathrooms were 10x better than when I was there in 09

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Kandak Sayaqa posted:

So how bad is the CAOC these days? I just got tapped to go there for comm support. On the one hand, I assume it can't be as lovely as my time in Afghanistan as an Army augmentee.
Well, since you're working support, you can ignore everyone below the rank of O-5 and sit at your desk checking Facebook with basically zero repercussions. On the other hand, the Deid really seems to bring out the douchebag in people.

xaarman posted:

Hahahahahhahahahaaaa so you're out in 3 months though right?
Yup. Though I may end up going Guard/Reserve to keep my money right while I'm waiting for the job I want to open up.

Godholio posted:

Yeah I'll agree with that. I had a bunch of cool folks on my shift, even the marine O-6 that ran things from upstairs.

Those showers are far and away better than Dhafras though.
If you were in the Brad Pitt Complex, you did not get the full bathroom experience. Twenty two toilets filled past the rim with poo poo.

Some of the people I worked with were cool, but a lot of them were passive-aggressive and lovely, and a few... well, let's just say I hoped every night that we would all be rolled up by one of those militant groups from the SERE 100 CBT that threatens great harm to your comrades if you don't talk.

Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Dec 13, 2014

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I was in the trailers for like 3 weeks waiting for the BPC to have a room. At ADAB you had to shower, then rinse your hair again to get rid of the mold that was falling on you. The "solution" was that after showering you had to spray bleach on every surface of the stall. I can't say that it didn't help, but it certainly didn't solve poo poo.

BULLETKISS
Jul 3, 2003

I never stayed in BPC, but the worst part about sleeping in the trailers was being on nightshift. People would slam the doors constantly during the day. I propped open the door with a mop bucket. The door hitting the plastic bucket was quieter than the door slamming. The AC ran constantly but at least I was able to sleep.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Turn on AC, generate white noise, go to sleep. Also do how we did and get dehumidifiers for everyone for white noise and also not getting mold on all your poo poo.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



xaarman, I should have clarified. I meant CENTCOM at Al Udeid. My last trip there was in 09, and I was with the base comm squadron, so my CAOC experience is limited to my friends' muttered curses.

My takeaway from this is "Still the place where morale goes to die, but the BPC is nice."

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Is the CAOC/ops in general that bad at Al Udeid/Dhafra? Every in my shop who's deployed out there either went to the AMCC and loved it or was night shift and slept in front of a SIPR terminal all night. I ask because I'm trying to jump on a deployment out there and I'll end up randomly filling a slot in some ops floor.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Larry Parrish posted:

Is the CAOC/ops in general that bad at Al Udeid/Dhafra? Every in my shop who's deployed out there either went to the AMCC and loved it or was night shift and slept in front of a SIPR terminal all night. I ask because I'm trying to jump on a deployment out there and I'll end up randomly filling a slot in some ops floor.
It depends entirely on who you work for.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
It depends on a lot of things. Rank, how often you walk past SNCOs, etc.

I flew at Dhafra, and it was loving great in 2008. The showers were disgusting, but whatever. 2009 there were some additional restrictions on dumb poo poo, but nothing really too bad (like reflective belt usage, that kind of poo poo). You could tell there was a more CONUS mindset, though. In 2010 I went elsewhere, but heard that the trend was continuing. At the same time, I was hearing from friends on other platforms that the Deid was getting a little more relaxed. 2011 I went to the CAOC and didn't really have any problems. My job was easier than I could've imagined (I found out why they actively did NOT want to send an SD there, it's a loving waste). If you stay in the CC (trailers) they suck, but it's not a loving tent. The bathrooms also suck. But if you get to stay in the BPC it's a loving dorm room. You share a bathroom and kitchenette with one other person, but you each have your own little bedroom area. I only saw my "roommate" like two or three times. Food at both bases is pretty good.

The only times I saw or heard about any real complaints (beyond general "I miss my family" stuff) it was when SNCOs or DOs with nothing better to do were hawking on folks for little poo poo, like a PT shirt coming untucked.

Edit: I would go to either of them for a year before willingly going back to Tinker. Hell, I chased a job in Saudi further than an instructor gig in the reserve AWACS squadron at Tinker (didn't chase it at all).

Laughing_Stock
Jun 19, 2008
Does anybody have that cartoon of an Air Force guy throwing a missile with all kinds of rainbows and clouds in the background and the dude has Slippery's blue kool-aid man avatar tattooed on his arm? Thanks in advance, or no thanks I guess. Whatever.

Sax Offender
Sep 9, 2007

College Slice

Laughing_Stock posted:

Does anybody have that cartoon of an Air Force guy throwing a missile with all kinds of rainbows and clouds in the background and the dude has Slippery's blue kool-aid man avatar tattooed on his arm? Thanks in advance, or no thanks I guess. Whatever.

P sure that was someone's depiction of Slip himself.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008



Merry Christmas.

Lazy Reservist
Nov 30, 2005

FUBIJAR

Casimir Radon posted:


Merry Christmas.

Slippery wishes he looked that good.

True Slippery story: He once said that if the Air Force never worked out for him, he wanted to be a porn star and do a scene where he wears his USAFA parka while doing a chick doggy style.

Laughing_Stock
Jun 19, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:


Merry Christmas.

Awesome man thanks! I'm going to include in the joint capabilities briefing I'm giving Wednesday. I'm sure it will get a few laughs.

Rekinom
Jan 26, 2006

~ shady midair gas hustler ~

~ good hair ~

~ colt 45 ~
it is now my mission to get this picture in as many official air force briefings as humanly possible.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

Lazy Reservist posted:

Slippery wishes he looked that good.

True Slippery story: He once said that if the Air Force never worked out for him, he wanted to be a porn star and do a scene where he wears his USAFA parka while doing a chick doggy style.

drat it Slip I know you're still lurking here, you need to post clarifying this issue and/or post pics of you jacking it in said parka.

Purely for academic purposes, mind you.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm gonna graduate DG and possibly Levitow tomorrow out of NCOA after getting drunk every night, turning lovely papers in last minute, arguing that the Air Force is loving everyone in every guided discussion and generally being a communist waste of a human being. How do you gently caress this up? We had two people get kicked out of this course. How do you gently caress this up?

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Rekinom
Jan 26, 2006

~ shady midair gas hustler ~

~ good hair ~

~ colt 45 ~

Wild T posted:

drat it Slip I know you're still lurking here, you need to post clarifying this issue and/or post pics of you jacking it in said parka.

Purely for academic purposes, mind you.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm gonna graduate DG and possibly Levitow tomorrow out of NCOA after getting drunk every night, turning lovely papers in last minute, arguing that the Air Force is loving everyone in every guided discussion and generally being a communist waste of a human being. How do you gently caress this up? We had two people get kicked out of this course. How do you gently caress this up?

I don't know how you would ever get a more obvious sign in life that you can do better than this job. It's like you're dating a really fat girl to build up your self esteem.

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