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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Ideally the game of the month should be something easily attainable - on steam or GOG, and/or on PSN/Xbox Live/EShop. Probably something that's older, too, both so it isn't redundant (people are already playing through and discussiong, say, Dragon Age Inquisition) and so it can be gotten for cheaper than a full price game.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Easy Rule for a 'is it that bad' thread: No games with a metacritic score higher than 60.

Or you could do it in a game of the month format too.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Forums are way better than 18 months ago, good job everyone.
the imp zone is way better than when we were mods

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kewpuh posted:

i guess my problem or irritation maybe is that it took a thread like this to get people talking about doing something like that which leads me to think that people still are for some reason afraid to post threads and i hate that
no matter how many times you slam out the :justpost: emote we're still a bunch of nerds who are terrified of the teacher calling on us

the idea of posting a thread triggers a deep, primal fear, because what if a goon calls you a fucklord

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

well, that's kind of related to games

people get way too aggressive and way too defensive though, that's true. I don't think there's anything wrong with 'I think X is Y because Z, thoughts/opinions?' but I've so rarely seen people actually discuss it like adults. It always devolves into a slapfight with random labels being thrown around.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Widestancer posted:

It's fun to talk about those issues in a good hearted manner. It's also fun to laugh at people who legitimately state that "the core demographic of video games is white males and that sucks" as literally happened in that thread.
Why is that something worth making fun of? If it's super tumblr 'how dare people be white,' that's one thing, but if it's just 'I want to see a more diverse range of characters and developers' then that's pretty understandable.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Widestancer posted:

I want you to read some of the posts in the GTA V thread and tell me they're not worth making fun of with a straight face.
Like I said, some of those posts are totally worth making fun of because they were being weird dumbasses, but the sentiment you used as an example isn't.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah, and I can see why someone would make that post? Obviously it's overdramatic and not strictly true (for one thing I don't think Japanese devs are targeting *white* dudes) but the fact is most western developers are white dudes making games for white dudes. Since you responded to that post with

Widestancer posted:

How does that demographic make your gaming experience worse at all

I'll try to answer. If development teams were more diverse, making games for more diverse audiences, then games would be more diverse. And I don't necessarily mean diverse in a 'look, there's a black dude' way, I mean that there would be a wider range of ideas coming in, which would lead to more variety in design, settings, themes, etc. Even if you couldn't give a poo poo about anything remotely related to story, it'd have an effect on the kind of games that are being made, mechanically.

For an example of what I mean, look at Hidden Object games. Those games are, from what I can tell, targeted at older women. Moms, basically. While I don't think they're really the pinnacle of game design, they represent a genre that came into existence solely because the devs were targeting a demographic besides dudes aged 18-36 - if they were targeting that demographic, after all, the games would probably be closer to 'escape the room' type games, with larger puzzles to solve and a more immediate conflict at hand. By making the decision a demographic that's both older, female, and assumed to have not played that many games, the game design changed from what would have been the norm.

this is the Gamesiest post ive ever made but basically, i dont know about that guy, but im not really saying 'kill all white dudes,' just 'it'd be cool if games had a wider variety of people making them, and were willing to go outside the box some in terms of design and story' peace

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yeah im gonna go hang myself

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Stux posted:

i enjoyed that post endorph
that makes me feel even worse

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Adam Bowen posted:

So diversity means more lovely Facebook games made for grandmas. Sweet, where the gently caress do I sign up?

gently caress, I agree with your premise (diversity is good) but what a lovely example.
hidden object games were the only example i could think of

Widestancer posted:

I see where you were going with that post though and the sane part of me agrees, actually.

This is a good example of why maybe someone should make a social issues thread.

Just don't make it suck like last time and understand that it's probably going to get mocked like crazy until it produces some good poo poo.

It will produce good poo poo just maybe not in the intended manner.

thank you for not doubting me.

Anyway if someone wanted a legit social issues thread it'd need to be heavily moderated, which this forum seems to be going away from wanting, so it'd probably be a hilarious argument for 50 pages then get gassed

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Adam Bowen posted:

Portal would probably be a good example.
oh poo poo yeah it would be huh

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

elf help book posted:

There used to be a stickied thread about what games the mods were playing and I think Louisgod(?) even posted his Wii Fit progress chart in it and I thought you should bring that back Kewpuh.
I agree, bring back Louisgod's wii fit progress chart

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

bloodysabbath posted:

Whenever some Tumblrite gets caremad about "all" video games being made for "white dudes," what they mean is "I'm outraged <50 yearly big budget titles for specialized hardware caters to the people who have traditionally bought these bloated, overproduced things." They limit their data set to AAA and ignore the hundreds of other titles made for all platforms, because God forbid the stupid 50 million dollar linear shooter not be empowering to the Jezebel.com writers (and aspirings) who probably weren't going to buy it anyway.

:chanpop:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

:gas:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Widestancer posted:

I think they're upset that like a month or whatever ago I told someone to drink bleach and die on livestream
that is a very weird thing to post

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Widestancer posted:

Is it, in response to the dude who posted furry scat porn and started calling ZDR "dear" and being really weird?

I want you to go look at Panda Clue/Gay Rumsfeld's posts and tell me that them drinking bleach on a live stream wouldn't be the funniest thing they could do on these forums especially if they actually did it because a stranger told them to online.
those posts are very weird but i do not wish for the death of anyone, especially on livestream. in fact i do not find suicide funny at all. i wish only for the peace and mental health of all gamers, even the weird ones.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kewpuh posted:

So, was there any actual stuff that I should read in the past several pages or can I assume that it's more crap that doesn't help me at all

quote:

:gas:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

if you want my legit opinion about a Thing, there should be less 'send this thread to imp zone, boys' stuff going on

Imp Zone shouldn't be a gas chamber, it should be its own forum. if a thread is bad, actually gas it. If a thread is good, let it stay in Games unless the OP specifically requests a move to Imp Zone, or the people in the thread reach a consensus, or something. Basically, less using imp zone as a punishment, since all that does is encourage the weird culture war mentality that some people have.

From what i can tell, we've been moving away from that anyway, but I just wanted to reinforce that that's a good direction.

edit: Also CoffeeBooze is completely insane but I do agree that 'human being' and 'kill yourself' should at least be discouraged outside the imp zone, if not actively probated for. peace

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah, that's true, but a few months back it seemed like you were popping up in Imp Zone every month or so to go 'alright what Funny Troll should we do now?'

I think the last time you made a thread like that it led to absolutely nothing, but

net cafe scandal posted:

In what way is being sent to imp zone a punishment?

That's my point, it shouldn't be one, but the Smash thread got sent there for being insanely bad. I mean, it got kind of decent afterwards and things worked out, but I'm not a fan of the mentality behind that decision.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kewpuh posted:

Ya but this was also back when Imp Zone had converted from DDRD, the stylesheet had been changed from the abomination, and I was throwing poo poo at the wall hoping to think of some reason to spice up the place. This of course ended up being not necessary at all because people started to post there because their eyes didn't hurt and it didn't really need any spicing up from a mod.
Yeah true

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

There are no gigantic faggots like you posting there as well so it's a double win.
mods???

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

basically the 'slurs are okay if theyre meant to be funny or it's a parody but it's on a case-by-case thing' rule basically seems like it means 'you can call people faggots but you can't call people niggers, but you can make photoshops of bowser saying friend of the family, but you can't have a gangtag of bowser saying friend of the family...' basically it seems like it's whatever the mods feel like, and with the more relaxed rules it seems like it's become a 'gently caress it' type situation

imo a more hardline yes/no type rule would make situations like this go smoother, but i understand that's above your paygrade, kewpuh. either the words are allowed or they're not. going 'was this meant as actual bigotry' is a weird way of handling it because, well, nobody can read a poster's mind. maybe that one dude really does hate anime and also homos

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

koolkal posted:

Widesauron is a good name change imo

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Widestancer posted:

There is a forum where you have to respect games and gaming

Guess where it is
neogaf?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Eonwe posted:

I'd pay $10 for the ability to hand out a single 6 hour probation

Get on it lowtax
this'd be funny if you could only buy it once per account

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

CoffeeBooze posted:

Christmas Parachute Account Six-Pack Sale! Itll be like a forum version of a free to play MMO.
if someone's willing to pay $20 dollars to probate someone for six hours once then frankly they deserve the power to

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