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Help PI I have a dumb idea but I'm the animal person in my family so no one will be able to talk me out of it if it's stupid. I had 28 chickens that run around by my barn during the day and spend the night in chicken Fort Knox. "Had" is the key word here. During the past 2 weeks we have been having terrible dog attacks when we're out for the day. It's 2 beagles that run around town that no one will claim. I'm down to 17 chickens now after 2 attacks. All my girls are terrified and one rooster has a sad sad naked butt. Today was the last straw. My brother had already shot at the dogs once but they came back today. So they got shot at again. Unfortunately he didn't hit either of them. I was hoping to trap one in a big havahart but that is probably not going to actually work. Sooo... I realize the solution is probably just to fence them in better but there's so much space and I like having them run around and eat bugs. And they give me sad looks when I try to keep them in their fence (yes, they have one that they fly right over despite having their wings clipped. Only the dumbest ones actually stay in). How much am I going to regret it if I try to get a LGD in the spring to protect them? It's a lot of regret isn't it?
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Dec 8, 2014 01:12
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That depends, how do you feel about the LGD protecting the chickens from you?
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Dec 8, 2014 01:21
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Considering that I'm going to murder a lot of them for meat and manhandle the roosters if they get uppity, I don't like it. It's my biggest concern at this point besides the road being close-ish.
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Dec 8, 2014 02:42
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LGDs do not bond to poultry and will kill them all hth
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Dec 8, 2014 03:46
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Superconsndar posted:LGDs do not bond to poultry and will kill them all hth Well crap. That is pretty much the opposite of what I need.
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Dec 8, 2014 03:54
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It takes about 2 years to teach an LGD not to kill poultry, and you will lose tons in the process and without any larger livestock to actually socialize with and bond to, you're basically going to have a bored, chicken killing puppy that resource guards random poo poo for a few years while you ruin his life every time he kills a chicken. Then you'll have a bored, neurotic adult dog that will guard territory, but not the chickens themselves (unless it views them as a resource, in which case it will resource guard them) and it may, or may not still kill chickens depending on how much it cared when it got in trouble for killing chickens. It will spend its life barking at nothing, digging out, and devising ways to get to chickens because it will be bored as poo poo. LGDs that typically "guard" poultry are, 99.999999999999% of the time actually guarding whatever larger livestock it is bonded to, and the chickens just happen to also be protected because they occupy the same space. Unless, again, that dog happens to not grow out of playing with chickens to death, in which case you p much just wasted a poo poo ton of time and chickens.
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Dec 8, 2014 03:55
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"unfortunately my brother did not kill these dogs that are doing what dogs do to livestock"
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Dec 8, 2014 03:57
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Maremma Make sure you have a tree to bond it to
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Dec 8, 2014 05:46
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Maremma dogs should always be your best friend.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:52
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Tamarillo posted:Maremma What if I have 3 trees? Will it get confused? Please advice.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:05
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Explosions! posted:What if I have 3 trees? Will it get confused? Please advice. 3 trees, 3 Maremmas. It's the only way.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:25
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I wonder if the crazy Maremma lady still regrets not listening to PI Didn't she end up adopting it out on Craigslist or something 6 months after she got it? Mirthless fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Dec 8, 2014 |
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Dec 8, 2014 09:57
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iirc she was trying to rehome it via a parenting forum after it began guarding a tree.
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Dec 8, 2014 15:56
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my pyr is 10 months old now and while he is bonded to goats and pigs, currently his favorite thing to guard are the random eggs I sometimes toss him when I gather eggs. He protects the eggs from the goats. In case a goat might steal one. They're basically stupid as poo poo until they're like 2+ and then they get their poo poo togther
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Dec 8, 2014 16:00
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Maybe you would have more success trapping the dogs if you baited the trap w/ one of your chickens. Something to think about.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:30
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As a dog lover: if you are in a rural area and the dogs are killing live stock, even if you bring them to the pound or whatever, they're probably going to be humanely euthanized. If you are okay with that, then get a havaheart and send those fuckers to the pound to go ~over the rainbow bridge~. If you really are going to take pot shots at the dogs, don't be loving stupid about it, and make sure that shooting nuisance animals is legal and that you aren't violating city/state/town ordinances about how far you have to be from other buildings/homes/etc.
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Dec 8, 2014 20:54
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Superconsndar posted:iirc she was trying to rehome it via a parenting forum after it began guarding a tree. You can choose to believe that if you want. I choose to believe that she realised her error was not buying one maremma per family member and the family has been in a deadlock ever since as each dog is guarding its human against the other dogs/humans and no one can move without being eaten. E: and no one is allowed to think about looking at the tree
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Dec 8, 2014 22:50
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wtftastic posted:As a dog lover: if you are in a rural area and the dogs are killing live stock, even if you bring them to the pound or whatever, they're probably going to be humanely euthanized. If you are okay with that, then get a havaheart and send those fuckers to the pound to go ~over the rainbow bridge~. If you really are going to take pot shots at the dogs, don't be loving stupid about it, and make sure that shooting nuisance animals is legal and that you aren't violating city/state/town ordinances about how far you have to be from other buildings/homes/etc. Yeah I can shoot a(t) dog and no neighbors will say anything, please anyone else make sure you're not going to hit the old lady next door's scooter or whatever before you do that. Since you all have RUINED my dogfun I'm just going to get a guard llama/donkey (lonkey?) instead and name him Dogkicker and maybe put a bandana on his big ol neck. I hope you're happy.
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Dec 9, 2014 02:22
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please donkey, llamas are such cunts Dogkicker best name for lil spotty donkey :3
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Dec 9, 2014 02:27
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Nthing Dogkicker, Kicker of Dogs
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Dec 9, 2014 02:58
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just get a bigger, meaner bird to live with your chickens. like a cassowary.
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Dec 9, 2014 03:05
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PI always looking for mammals to solve a bird's problem 
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Dec 9, 2014 03:05
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No. gently caress those things I am terrified of giant birds. Chickens are bad enough when they get that bloodlust look in their eyes, I don't want to find out how fast a big one could tear me apart and eat my juicy eyeballs.
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Dec 9, 2014 03:26
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are the dogs stray? put some dog food in a big have a heart trap on the edge of your land and call a beagle rescue to pick them up
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Dec 9, 2014 03:27
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Real hurthling! posted:are the dogs stray? put some dog food in a big have a heart trap on the edge of your land and call a beagle rescue to pick them up oh how sweet
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Dec 9, 2014 04:28
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Beagle rescue group would find someone keen to rehabilitate Poor Defenceless Beagles Used As Dog Fighting Bait Poor Darlings This Definitely Happened, and would totally put up with them biting and being feral because Abuse You Know.
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Dec 9, 2014 04:43
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Dogkicker the Donkey omg 
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Dec 9, 2014 06:19
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All these people are wrong, please get a komondor.
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Dec 9, 2014 06:22
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Dec 9, 2014 07:35
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Superconsndar posted:oh how sweet All hounds are awesome, if these were pibble murderdogs I'd agree that taking potshots at them was ok
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Dec 9, 2014 08:02
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Vacuum seal the chickens in plastic and then dip them in bleach so the dogs cant smell them
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Dec 9, 2014 08:04
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yo how do I get one of those sweet PI tags? e: I mean I could just buy one but I feel an av should be earned
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Dec 9, 2014 11:11
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My Lil Parachute posted:yo how do I get one of those sweet PI tags?
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Dec 9, 2014 11:12
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My Lil Parachute posted:yo how do I get one of those sweet PI tags? for outstanding posting in the service of l'île des animaux domestiques and/or for winning the monthly Pose a Pet contest hosted by the lovely and talented Instant Jellyfish
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Dec 9, 2014 18:00
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Explosions! posted:Yeah I can shoot a(t) dog and no neighbors will say anything, please anyone else make sure you're not going to hit the old lady next door's scooter or whatever before you do that. I'd read a kid's book about Dogkicker, The Donkey Who Protected Chickens. Synopsis: A donkey with a bunch of chickens roosting on it, goes around the countryside whaling on dogs and making new friends along the way.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:35
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Superconsndar posted:iirc she was trying to rehome it via a parenting forum after it began guarding a tree. Is this for real? Holy poo poo I remember that thread, what a funny thread. She never posted again after posting twice about her autistic son, tiny apartment, no yard, and giant guard dog plan right? How did you find this out? Edit: Also just get a bigger gun with more spray-and-pray power for your terrible shot of a brother who should be ashamed at how bad of a shot he is.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:41
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Spermy Smurf posted:Is this for real? Holy poo poo I remember that thread, what a funny thread. She never posted again after posting twice about her autistic son, tiny apartment, no yard, and giant guard dog plan right? How did you find this out? It wasn't me, I think some goon tracked her down somehow and posted it v  v
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Dec 9, 2014 20:25
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Spermy Smurf posted:Edit: Also just get a bigger gun with more spray-and-pray power for your terrible shot of a brother who should be ashamed at how bad of a shot he is. Oh god yes he's a terrible shot. We're pretty sure that when he killed his first deer he didn't shoot it, he just scared it to death. I'm not any better but I don't pretend that I am so it's ok. Brb guys going to write that kid's book about Dogkicker and his chickens. Also a guy at work's sister might have a free donkey!
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Explosions! posted:Oh god yes he's a terrible shot. We're pretty sure that when he killed his first deer he didn't shoot it, he just scared it to death. I'm not any better but I don't pretend that I am so it's ok. GO KICK SOME DOGS 
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Drum posted:GO KICK SOME DOGS I think I love you.
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