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ActusRhesus posted:seriously. The "legal justification" for it was just...wow. Don't get me wrong...the guy was an rear end in a top hat. But jeez. talk about lovely precedent. the fifth amendment provides does not distinguish between citizen and non-citizen
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SedanChair posted:There won't be any more Watergates. 
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Rep. Peter King: Senate Report Not Torture, Just People Having “To Stand In Awkward Positions” also not torture
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Cheney should be tried and hung. he's halfway there 
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twodot posted:I think you are reading more into my post than what I said. The people who perform torture presumably believe it does produce useful information (again, I'm assuming they aren't super villains who torture for no reason), so information produced via torture is, I suspect, a prime component of their inadmissible evidence. This is a bad reason to hold someone indefinitely without trial, but there simply doesn't exist any good reason to hold someone indefinitely without trial, so that doesn't seem remarkable. (Similarly my other example of "Oh a guy told us you did something bad, but we can't/won't find him for cross examination" is a bad reason) Per the report, at least one guy was tortured to play hours screams to his family to get information from them
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twodot posted:I don't know why you think this is relevant to anything I've said (other than the posts where I said torture is bad, which you didn't quote). They're evil; they didn't torture him to get information.
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