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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




seiferguy posted:

Apparently during all this time the CIA was torturing, no one from the CIA went to give GW Bush a report for four whole years:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...Nz1L/story.html

Plausible deniability for the president. They knew what they were doing was wrong after all.

Reading all of this really is a black comedy though. Why exactly do we have the CIA at this point?

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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Radbot posted:

No loving way will he do it. You'd need to be an idiot with no regard for yourself or your family to piss off the CIA like that.

The CIA won't do jack poo poo but whine about it like they are now.

Murdering a former representative out of spite and getting caught for it would put the agency in the ground.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Badger of Basra posted:

It's not really "tarring" when the only people who will take it that way are people who already don't like them anyway. Every CIA agent who gets a preemptive pardon from Obama will go on Fox talking about how it's really a badge of honor and if the usurper in chief thinks I shouldn't have protected the country, well that's his problem. People who care about torture will continue to think it is wrong. Nothing changes.

This doesn't really matter, because history shows people look back and have negative views of these types of things. Pardoning them would suggest they committed a crime and be a victory for being on the right side of history.

In 40 years once many of the baby boomers are dead I doubt anyone who isn't sociopathic or self-absorbed will defend the Bush-era torture programs. Pardoning them would go a long way to creating that view. Of course, Obama is a coward and probably won't.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Dec 11, 2014

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