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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Senate torture report
 
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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
 Ahahahahahahah after a few days of confinement and 24 hours of stress posture torture the CIA ascertains the prisoners are CIA moles who have been trying to get in touch with the CIA for months


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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Radbot posted:

So how is this report partisan, as morons on the right have been accusing?

Talks about things republicans and democrats have enacted and defended, ergo: partisan.

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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Xandu posted:

Page 16 footnote says "Juma gul who was released with a payment of $[redacted] and other currency."

Is this saying they paid him off?

Or tipped him for taking it like a champ, yes.

Volkerball posted:

Funny to say about a government report outlining all this in plain view of the world.

Accountability directly connotates consequence. What do you seriously think will be the consequence of this? Who, anywhere, will do literally the first thing in response to the global military hegemon torturing people in black sites all over the world as part of a spurt of power projection which has destabilized the middle east in a way that hasn't been seen since the Ilkhanate, all initiated because a nonstate group blew up some buildings?

Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 9, 2014

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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

CheesyDog posted:

Nothing will happen to them and everyone in this thread knows it and pointing out that our rhetoric is heated only distracts from that fact.

Yes.

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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

ActusRhesus posted:

Uhm...it's the federal government. Of course it's incompetent.

At the risk of being called a concern troll, however, the editorial in the WSJ raises a lot of valid issues about the report...not its content, which is horrifying, but the manner of its delivery. I've had to do government investigations and it's boilerplate that a proper investigation includes recommendations. This one included none. Which can be used to take attention away from the content and turn it into "They don't actually care! They just wanted people to stop talking about Gruber" and the valid issues get lost in the political noise. They should have done a complete investigation which would have included attempting to interview more people involved in CIA leadership (and documenting if they refused to cooperate) and making recommendations for how to fix the obvious failures here. (starting with "don't put hummus up people's asses.)

But then...see first sentence.

Any "recommendation" section to state torture would necessitate criminal proceedings of people whom the authors are likely on first-name terms with, and the function of American laws are to keep the poor in check.

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