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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

The rear end Stooge posted:

I don't think I've ever gotten a pair of headphones with an electronic device that weren't total pieces of poo poo. I'm just gonna keep using the nice headphones that I already have, so why would I want yet another crummy dollar store pair to throw in a drawer and forget about?

The headphones that come with Android flagships these days tend to be pretty good.

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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

ThermoPhysical posted:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nt-fast-enough/

The 5X doesn't have Electronic Image Stabilization, 240 FPS slow motion video, or Smart Burst because of the processor, according to that AMA.

This means the Nexus 6 won't get slow-motion or Smart Burst.

What's amusing is that someone pointed out that the Moto X Pure Edition has no trouble with stabilization using the exact same processor.

This also means the 5X has no stabilization of any kind.

OIS is a serious loss, electronic stabilization is basically garbage.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Keyser S0ze posted:

Thanks, I'll grab some of those cheap Amzn earbuds and the Brainwavz that Star Wars Sex Parrot recommended or something similar and report back in a few weeks when my Moto X Pure gets here.

I'm surprised there isn't more demand for non-isolating earbuds, especially for urban environments, at work or even for running/biking.

If you want non-isolating that work with Android phones, the Xiaomi Piston 3 would fit your needs perfectly.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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bull3964 posted:

Maybe not, but it's far more likely that my own government is going to do something actionable with that data than the Chinese.

Simple solution - look at the nastiest, most disgusting yet still legal porn you can on your phone. Eventually the poor bastard who has to look through all the logs is gonna be like "You know what, gently caress this. I'm moving to Alaska and raising llamas."

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

peepsalot posted:

Just updated to 6.0 tonight.


My remaining battery % is just... going up while idle. :shepface:.

The steep ramp at beginning was probably the "optimizing apps".

Estimated battery life takes in to account the temperature of the battery. Under higher temperatures lithium chemistry batteries will drain faster so as the phone cools down the estimated battery life will increase slightly.


This isn't magic and it's not some sort of secret.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I got a G4 instead. I am happy. Now I shall order a Qi case for it so that I will be extra happy.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Sales might reach the high hundreds or thousands

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
LG is rolling out Android 6.0 to G4s starting next week.

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-announces-its-first-android-60-marshmallow-update

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Whelp after reading the 5x reviews I'm pretty happy I chose the G4. You know what's really awesome about the G4? The REMOVABLE BATTERY and MICROSD CARD SLOT. I mean, those things are awesome, I don't know how anyone could go without them in this day and age. Of course, the phone is a little large and the leather backing is kind of slippery. I think I should get some GRIP TAPE.


*runs*

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Karthe posted:

Can you guys assure me that I've just been experiencing a string of bad phones instead of a new norm in Android devices? For starters, my last three daily-use Android phones have been a 2013 Moto X, an Xperia Z3C, and currently a OnePlus One.

I experienced zero touchscreen-related issues with the Moto X - swipes and taps were accurate, and I used Minuum (a pretty swipe-heavy keyboard app) on a daily basis. I had absolutely zero issues typing things out quickly and accurately, and swiping in various apps produced no aberrant behavior.

When I switched to the Xperia, I had to re-evaluate keyboards because, for some reason, the screen on the Xperia was gorgeous but was too sensitive. A short swipe directly on or too close to the screen (as when repositioning your fingers) resulted in Minuum (and Fleksy, and Swype) registering an actual swipe. This was even after jacking up the the length you had to swipe to register as a swipe. After some internet sleuthing it appeared this was ultimately related to some additional hardware on/in the screen that allowed the screen to function when its capacitive ability was turned off (so you could still take pictures underwater or use the phone with gloves on).

And then there's the OnePlus One. It's notorious for having a lovely touchscreen, most likely related to the firmware. Several OTAs later and nothing's really improved - I still get frequent ghost-tapping when I scroll too slowly. And going back to keyboard apps, most swipe-related apps are out of the question so I've settled on SwiftKey. It's not my first choice but it has solid tap-touch functionality that can't be hosed up by a touchscreen that loves to freak out when you swipe on it. I've made do but I really miss Minuum. :sigh:

Anyway I plan on getting a new phone to replace the OPO. I was waiting for the Priv reviews but they just came out last night and...well...now I'm preparing to pick up a 6P. I just want to know that the 6P will finally free me of quirky touchscreens that prevent me from using my favorite keyboard apps. :pray:

Sony phones have a high sensitivity touchscreen mode called Glove Mode, and with most Sony phones it's enabled by default. It's under Settings - Display

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Entropic posted:

So if someone is stuck on one of those sites that opens pop-ups and prevents you from closing the tab...?

Not possible. Hit the left hardware key and swipe away the pop up window.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
tIMG please

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

FAUXTON posted:

BT headphones and overall systems management on phones are good enough that there's basically no functional difference from wired headphones unless you're a soundsperg with $500 headphones connected to your phone with a preamp and a plug adapter.

Good wired headphones cost a shitload less money than comparable bluetooth headphones and there are still plenty of people who don't give the tiniest poo poo about wires.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

SwissCM posted:

Basically every phone post-jellybean supports USB Audio DACs over USB-OTG already. You can get pretty tiny ones for super cheap. I don't think losing the 3.5mm audio output on a phone would be a big deal.

Having to carry around another device that you have to pay for separately from your phone may not be a big deal to you, but it will be to some people. I mean, part of the big push to get better DACs on phones was so that people could replace separate MP3 players with their phone. Why are people suddenly clamoring to get rid of that?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Syrinxx posted:

And thus 2 billion new adapters shall be sold. Wonder why this change is being pushed on comsumers?

Uh, okay, so which company is pushing this change on consumers? There's been mention of a whole (1) model of phone from (1) manufacturer that ships without a headphone port. I'm sure there are a few more out there but that's hardly "being pushed on consumers".

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Woke up this morning to find that my LG G4 installed Marshmallow while I was sleeping. Didn't even have to wipe which is nice.







But gently caress Canadian carriers for delaying it this long.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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sbaldrick posted:

Given that 1.2% of phones are currently running Marshmallow, are they really delaying it or does Google just need to start pushing it to phones.

I have a carrier branded G4 - the update was handled by my carrier and LG.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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bull3964 posted:

I wonder if any of the new flagship smartphones coming up will be using Sony's new stacked sensor.

http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/16/sony-s-new-smartphone-camera-sensor-is-smaller-and-cheaper/

Seems like it could be game changing with on chip hybrid auto focus and built in 3axis electronic IS. If the electronic IS works anywhere near as well as optical, this will be a far cheaper and easier way for smartphone manufacturers to get stabilized picture taking into phones.

Bwahahahahaha




No.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I have grip tape on my LG G4.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

CLAM DOWN posted:

Can carriers gently caress with the security update deployment? If so, Rogers probably did.

If Rogers can gently caress something up or screw over their subscribers, rest assured that they will.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
My G4 is awesome. It is awesomer because it has a removable battery, removable storage and grip tape, and I wouldn't trade it for either of the current Nexus devices.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Smythe posted:

Mods? Can we get rid of this loving troll?

All of it is true. Even the grip tape.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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CLAM DOWN posted:

Nexus 6 camera was great. Software wasn't, I used the Manual Camera app instead.

Good sensor, spectacularly bad AF system. That's kind of important for a camera.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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nimper posted:

Yeah, so what? Don't buy carrier locked phones.

Sent from my unlocked Moto X 2014.

Non-poo poo carrier locked phones exist and I happen to have one. It did not come with a single piece of carrier software installed. The way my contract is structured it makes much more sense to get a subsidized phone because the monthly savings realized from bringing my own phone would not have come anywhere close to equalling the upfront cost of purchasing that phone outright.

I am well aware that my situation is not universal but spouting hive mind bullshit at people isn't remotely helpful either.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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nimper posted:

What carrier and what phone?

Rogers/Fido LG G4 (I'm Canadian)

Also, if you in the US think your carriers are bad they don't come anywhere close to how horrible the major Canadian carriers are.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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FAUXTON posted:

If $65 a month is budget-breakingly expensive then he probably qualifies for lifeline subsidies.

I live in Canada. A data plan that would allow me to stream everything comes in only two options:
1. A lovely network at a reasonable price
2. A good network but a monthly plan that runs $100+ (and that's probably a low estimate).

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
That'll be good news to all 5 Priv users

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Mr. Powers posted:

The cracks are a bit odd because I check after every drop (and there have been drops) but both of these cracks were so fine that I didn't notice them after a drop, so, yeah, probably Google. It's the second display/glass on the phone, and I'm not sure if it is 100% OEM. It went 20 months with no damage at all until it broke catastrophically, so I figure maybe the glass is lower grade than original.

"I keep dropping my phone and the glass cracked WHAT'S GOING ON HERE" :tinfoil:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Luchadork posted:

OnePlus continues to be a good phone maker: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/07/05/oneplus-3-imei/

drat, they must work hard at finding new ways to be stupid.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Vykk.Draygo posted:

Does anybody else on Nougat have an issue with the phone not remembering bluetooth volume when you reconnect to a bluetooth device? I only ever have bluetooth at full volume, but when I connect to my headphones, it's only at half volume, and when I connect to my car, it shows as half volume but plays at full volume. It's all very strange.

Android will automatically reduce the volume output to prevent hearing damage.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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My LG G4 managed to brick itself charging last night. Fan-loving-tastic.


Thankfully it's covered under warranty but for the next two weeks I'm back to using my Nexus 5. It's like living in the damned dark ages.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Palladium posted:

LG, HTC and Sony can't execute or sell high-end well enough to save their lives. If they did Pixel won't even have existed.

LG can in fact execute and sell high-end phones, but apparently only every other generation.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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The Slack Lagoon posted:

Just use Bluetooth headphones??

Bluetooth headphones don't come anywhere close to the same sound quality as a good wired set at similar prices. As someone who listens to a poo poo ton of music to help deal with migraines, this matters a lot.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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sleepwalkers posted:

Hi, I'm not sure where I said I was talking about my use case specifically, but I'm gonna guess anyone involved in content creation would appreciate low-latency audio.
I mean, if you're wondering what it does to my use case, it probably provides more of a benefit than any headphone jack on a phone has provided me. I rarely use it, so if it'll give me a slightly bigger battery, a better speaker, better resistance to the elements, whatever, I'm fine without. Only time I really use one is on an airplane, and at that point, give me USB-C noise cancelling headphones 'cause I'd rather not have to worry about batteries.

e: My point is more that people assuming it's just about loving over the consumer or whatever are being a touch dramatic. I clearly acknowledged it's a headache and it's obviously fine for people to dislike that it's going to force them to change, but ultimately it's space that can be used for other things that can/will provide a benefit to a lot of users.

Any improvement in battery capacity will come at the expense of much higher battery drain because of Bluetooth usage. You can also already get NC headphones with built in power packs so that's a pretty stupid argument as well.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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AlexF posted:

Yeah, I'm really OCD about my expensive gadgets and I'm not really happy with it. I'd love to change this, but it's buried so deep into my brain that I can't turn it off :(

I love this phone and I really hate myself that I can't overlook this one. The volume rocker on my GFs two year old Moto X is supernice, the buttons on my $200 Nextbit Robin were clicky as hell, yet Google can't seem to QC their iPhone flagship killer (which it absolutely is IMO) so well that these things aren't loose or don't rattle.

Here's the thing: When I'm typing (I'm typing in portrait mode) my right index finger rests upon the volume button which then moves and makes a sound everytime it hits the phones body. Which it does constantly because my hands are moving. So I'm typing and hear *clickclickclick* which really doesn't translate into the premium user experience that Google is going for here, no?

I really can't stress enough how much I love anything else about the phone. Android has never been this smooth, the camera is like God handed me a new toy personally and it's just all around awesome. Except for this one button. Let's just hope third time's the charm, huh?

↓ Edit: Come on, man. Is this really what this thread has become? One bad word about a Google phone and you're a nutjob? Google Pixel volume buttons and you'll find more than a few people complaining about the same thing ↓

No, we're making fun of you because you're a headcase and freaking out about volume buttons.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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AlexF posted:

It was a support chat, not a phone call, so she probably spat on the keyboard before writing it.

But fine, guys. I'll stop posting about my problems with an Android phone in the Android thread. Sorry you're so upset with me. I'll sit in the corner quietly with my high and unrealistic expectations for a phone that nearly costs 1000€ without saying anything any more.

Every time you get a new phone I'm going to break in to your house, take your phone apart and shave down all the buttons just a tiny little bit so that they all wiggle.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

Guys I'm currently on my third replacement and the bezels still reflect sunlight weirdly. Can you help me or not?

Just cover that fucker top to bottom in grip tape. Grip tape solves all problems pertaining to cell phones, it's a lesser adjunct to the better known rule that duct tape fixes everything.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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monster on a stick posted:

Cover the screen in grip tape too?


FogHelmut posted:

It comes in clear.

drat straight. You can get it surf and skateboard shops

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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Thermopyle posted:

Here's a stupid question that's not an Android Thread topic exactly, but...

Wife's 2013 Moto X finally poo poo the bed. She's wanting to do the Google financing thing to get a Pixel.

However, we're going to be financing a home purchase in a month or two as well as a car purchase shortly thereafter and she's worried about her credit score. How does the Google financing thing show up your credit report? In particular she's worried it will show up like a credit card with 100% balance utilization and as she doesn't have any other credit cards it'll adversely affect her score.

This much a topic for a thread in another forum except for the part I doubt I'd come across someone in another thread who has an idea how the Google financing thing shows up on your credit report.

It would be considered a personal loan

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grack
Jan 10, 2012

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They probably all come from the same 3-4 factories in China, buy whatever you think looks good.

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