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Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
Since I'm insanely smart and have good taste, I can tell you that whatever the worst ones were, I didn't watch them

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laplace
Oct 9, 2012

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Sakurazuka posted:

edit: Also I can barely even remember mobile phones being brought up and certainly not 'whoops I've dropped them into the water/no signal', if anything the anime exists in an alternate universe 21st century where tablets were invented but mobile phones weren't.

Episode 6 when the dad is in the hospital. The quote is like "I dropped my cellphone and tablet into the water when we were attacked, so I had to use a payphone!"

Also my complaint with Murano isn't that she has red hair, it's that she's has special snowflake design and has to have special colored anime hair to differentiate her from everyone when the point is... spoiler alert.... everyone is cattle. Also she experiences some of the more intense art sway between episodes.


Edit: Timestamp for that is 18:32 on Crunchyroll in a scene that is there literally just for that line.

laplace fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Dec 23, 2014

Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

if murano has red hair then im color blind or something.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Okay, wow, you got me, they mentioned mobile phones once, show ruined.

If you honestly think that this is crazy anime hair colour rather than normal person hair colour I don't know what to say.

laplace
Oct 9, 2012

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Mentioning it once doesn't ruin the show, it's the build up of little quirks like that in the writing that show how haphazard the adaptation is. Especially when one of the points of the overarching narrative was that communication not being a thing was huge to the invasion, whereas nowadays youtube and smartphones are prevalent and people use them actively in the show... except conveniently when the writers decide that everyone forgets that they own them. This also is a problem with the weird parasyte otaku brother character, who for some reason draws out a picture of the parasytes for his sister when... the computer with the internet is right there and he talks to people on the internet about the Parasytes. The setting change wouldn't be so bad if they... actually rewrote the show to take advantage of it but slapping a comic about the horrible world of the 90s onto the 2010s doesn't work like that.

Also: Murano has a hair color that is completely unique to her in the show. Her hair is tinted red, her eyes are weirdly red too. Unless I'm colorblind and don't know it, the picture you posted totally demonstrates that. While this wouldn't be a huge problem, the show tries pretty hard to give everyone else regular human design, which really greatly contrasts with the main characters. It's an anime thing to do but it's still stupid and poor design. Tamiya is the biggest culprit in this regard because she has purple hair.

Little things that add up and create larger narrative problems. They're there. You can't erase them by going "BUT I LIKE IT WEH!!!! YOU'RE BEING TOO CRITICAL!!!" in a thread that is literally about being critical about anime.

laplace fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 24, 2014

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
As much as I love Parasyte, it is kind of weird how they bother updating the setting and giving it a shiny new subtitle to distinguish it as a setting update, but then not change the story at all.

Either way, it's definitely not in the same category as something like Mahouka or any of the other contenders for the title of this thread.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

laplace posted:

Mentioning it once doesn't ruin the show, it's the build up of little quirks like that in the writing that show how haphazardly the adaptation is. Especially when one of the points of the overarching narrative was that communication not being a thing was huge to the invasion, whereas nowadays youtube and smartphones are prevalent and people use them actively in the show... except conveniently when the writers decide that everyone forgets that they own them. This also is a problem with the weird parasyte otaku brother character, who for some reason draws out a picture of the parasytes for his sister when... the computer with the internet is right there and he talks to people on the internet about the Parasytes. The setting change wouldn't be so bad if they... actually rewrote the show to take advantage of it but slapping a comic about the horrible world of the 90s onto the 2010s doesn't work like that.

Also: Murano has a hair color that is completely unique to her in the show. Her hair is tinted red, her eyes are weirdly red too. Unless I'm colorblind and don't know it, the picture you posted totally demonstrates that. While this wouldn't be a huge problem, the show tries pretty hard to give everyone else regular human design, which really greatly contrasts with the main characters. It's an anime thing to do but it's still stupid and poor design. Tamiya is the biggest culprit in this regard because she has purple hair.

Little things that add up and create larger narrative problems. They're there. You can't erase them by going "BUT I LIKE IT WEH!!!! YOU'RE BEING TOO CRITICAL!!!" in a thread that is literally about being critical about anime.

I can't really argue with you because you're not incorrect, it's just that that stuff doesn't really bother me and to be honest wasn't even something I'd noticed or thought of until you mentioned it. Mobile phones and modern technology have pretty much ruined horror movies and I'm quite happy for the show to pretend they don't exist, though I agree it would have worked much better if they'd just set it in the 90's. And girls having tinted hair doesn't bother me because girls having tinted hair is a thing that happens in real life, it's not like they've got Shiki style hair in a realistic setting. The worst I can honestly say about the Parasyte anime is that it looks a little flat and dull.

And I'd say that this thread is less about being critical about anime than is is laughing at actual irredeemable poo poo like Mahouka and that dog girl shoujo one.

Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 23, 2014

laplace
Oct 9, 2012

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Sakurazuka posted:

it's not like they've got Shiki style hair in a realistic setting.

You are completely right about that, and I'm so glad the show isn't Shiki.

I didn't mean to say the show was as bad as Mahouka, just that it was my biggest disappointment of the year for something that I wanted to be so much better.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Sakurazuka posted:

And I'd say that this thread is less about being critical about anime than is is laughing at actual irredeemable poo poo like Mahouka and that dog girl shoujo one.

I'm hoping it's a bit of both. People seem to be voting for anims that they found subjectively bad which, combined with the decent discussions, is exactly what I wanted out of this thread.

I'll post either later today or tomorrow with a list of goons who I've had votes from. If you haven't voted (in a clear way) please do so at some point (but keep chatting too).

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sakurazuka posted:

Okay, wow, you got me, they mentioned mobile phones once, show ruined.

If you honestly think that this is crazy anime hair colour rather than normal person hair colour I don't know what to say.


that's brown to me. Very vaguely red brown. It's a perfectly reasonable hair color for a human being to have.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Endorph posted:

that's brown to me. Very vaguely red brown. It's a perfectly reasonable hair color for a human being to have.
If I saw that in real life I'd presume there was a little bit of dye involved, but by anime standards it's quite reasonable.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

My actual vote for worst series are Nobanagun, managed to make a show about a girl using a weapon possessed by the spirit of Oda nobunaga to fight aliens boring, Wizard Barristers, should have been less wizards and more barristers also QUALITY and Sakura Trick which I subjectively enjoyed because sadly I am the target audience for girls kissing voyeuristically but was objectively bad.

Honourable mentions for Soul Eater Not! for annoying me by constantly going 'these girls have the hots for each other... NOT!' and Kill La Kill for daughter finger rape (a shame since I liked most of the rest if it.)

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Sakurazuka posted:

Kill La Kill for daughter finger rape (a shame since I liked most of the rest if it.)

So a show's bad just for depicting rape?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Not intrinsically, but when you use it as a lazy way to go 'look how evil this character is' it doesn't help.

Edit: Actually honestly yes, I think depicting on-screen rape is pretty skeevy and unnecessary no matter what the circumstances are.

Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Dec 24, 2014

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

WickedHate posted:

So a show's bad just for depicting rape?

Usually, yes.

People who I have down as having voted:
Aers, Alder, Aleksei Vasiliev, Blitzblast, Blockhouse, Cake Attack, Cao Ni Ma, Darth Walrus, Davincie, Demicol, Genocyber, Good Listener, Harettazetta, HerpicleOmnicron5, Hivecommander, Hocus Pocus, Laplace, Mad Lupine, Metal Ray Sunshine, MonsieurChoc, Namtab, Outer Science, Paragon1, Pentyne, Sakurazuka, Silver2195, SSNeoman, Stall_19, Strong Mouse, The Monkey Man, TheCornKing, Wark Say, WickedHate, Witch Fetish, Yes_Cantaloupe, Ytlaya, ZenMasterBullshit (37 voters, not bad)

If your name is not there and you feel it should be, it's because I couldn't tell your vote apart from general discussion.

Can people please ensure that future votes are bolded to make them stand out.
Additionally if you edit your votes please post to let me know as everything prior to this post has been counted and I don't intend to look back


Wark Say, No Game No Life was not counted in your votes as you stated you'd only seen 2 episodes (plus if I'd included it you'd have voted for 6 things).


E: Interesting Stats:
1.) The current #1 worst anime has over double the votes of second place.
2.) Only 1 of the current top 10 did not have a thread in ADTRW

Namtab fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Dec 24, 2014

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

WickedHate posted:

So a show's bad just for depicting rape?

And shooting the scenes like a porno? Definitely. It's completely possible to depict rape tastefully (GARO: The Animation, one of the most underrated shows of the year, provides a good example in its first episode), and the way KLK did it was pretty much the opposite.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Namtab posted:

E: Interesting Stats:
1.) The current #1 worst anime has over double the votes of second place.
2.) Only 1 of the current top 10 did not have a thread in ADTRW

it's coming from inside the building :tinfoil:

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Namtab posted:

Usually, yes.

People who I have down as having voted:
Aers, Alder, Aleksei Vasiliev, Blitzblast, Blockhouse, Cake Attack, Cao Ni Ma, Darth Walrus, Davincie, Demicol, Genocyber, Good Listener, Harettazetta, HerpicleOmnicron5, Hivecommander, Hocus Pocus, Laplace, Mad Lupine, Metal Ray Sunshine, MonsieurChoc, Namtab, Outer Science, Paragon1, Pentyne, Sakurazuka, Silver2195, SSNeoman, Stall_19, Strong Mouse, The Monkey Man, TheCornKing, Wark Say, WickedHate, Witch Fetish, Yes_Cantaloupe, Ytlaya, ZenMasterBullshit (37 voters, not bad)

If your name is not there and you feel it should be, it's because I couldn't tell your vote apart from general discussion.

Can people please ensure that future votes are bolded to make them stand out.
Additionally if you edit your votes please post to let me know as everything prior to this post has been counted and I don't intend to look back


Wark Say, No Game No Life was not counted in your votes as you stated you'd only seen 2 episodes (plus if I'd included it you'd have voted for 6 things).


E: Interesting Stats:
1.) The current #1 worst anime has over double the votes of second place.
2.) Only 1 of the current top 10 did not have a thread in ADTRW

Stat 2 isn't actually surprising given that we're only allowed to vote for shows we've seen a substantial amount of. It's pretty much a list of the worst shows of the year that enough people on SA were interested in to make threads for. The genuinely hideous poo poo, like Recently, My Sister Is Unusual, just isn't showing up for obvious reasons.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Darth Walrus posted:

And shooting the scenes like a porno? Definitely. It's completely possible to depict rape tastefully (GARO: The Animation, one of the most underrated shows of the year, provides a good example in its first episode), and the way KLK did it was pretty much the opposite.

It wasn't meant to be titillating at all. It was really disturbing, and wasn't about showing Ragyo as evil but informing the audience more about Satsuki and what's been going on with her and her life.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


do we need dick spacious to come post the timestamped rape summary that one dude did in the klk thread that got it closed?

'butt slap'

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

WickedHate posted:

It wasn't meant to be titillating at all. It was really disturbing, and wasn't about showing Ragyo as evil but informing the audience more about Satsuki and what's been going on with her and her life.

I don't want to get into detail for fear of (further) creeping up the thread, but are you familiar with the cinematic concept of the 'male gaze'? Basically, KLK uses that throughout its run, and fails to switch it off when the creepy incestuous rape comes along. Visually, this means that it's hard to distinguish from the show's many attempts to get its audience's dicks hard, carrying the uncomfortable implication that this, too, is a form of fanservice. It doesn't help that the male gaze was tied with violence and rape imagery for a great deal of the show (having your heroine room with a family of molesters and strip down into a ludicrously skimpy outfit before getting her rear end kicked by a string of tough opponents contributes to that), though never before was it so explicit.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

icantfindaname posted:

do we need dick spacious to come post the timestamped rape summary that one dude did in the klk thread that got it closed?

'butt slap'

yes because that was funny

ChumpsForChange
Jun 2, 2011
Mahouka- The most power fantasy, self-insert generic protagonist with an incest subplot to top it off.
Nobunaga the Fool-Nonsensical story, badly animated fights, lovely fanservice
Nobunagun- When it was about the main character going crazy channeling Nobunaga it was decent, otherwise it was boring and didn't go anywhere.
Buddy Complex & Captain Earth- Generic mecha shows, nothing really horrible with them just boring.

Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

quote:

13:30 - far shot of satsuki hanging in the cage
13:34 - shot of satsuki’s feet, ragged and hanging, Ragyo laughing. Panning up to Satsuki’s face until 13:43, without pausing to stare at her boobs like so many other animes
13:43 - close-up of Satsuki’s face (look of rage at 13:53)
13:54 - Looking at Ragyo talking to Satsuki
13:58 - medium-far shot of Satsuki, her body is darkened rather than well-lit. Ragyo gloating
14:11 - beginning of bad touch scene. The lighting of Ragyo is bright, the lighting on Satsuki is dark, guiding the eye to Ragyo, not Satsuki.
14:21 - Four second butt shot
14:25 - Close-up of a look of rage on Satsuki’s face
14:29 - Close-up of Ragyo’s face. Gloating.
14:36 - shot panning downwards from above Satuki’s face to her face. Seven seconds. No cleavage.
14:43 to 15:39 - Backstory.
15:40 - Far panning shot of cage.
15:56 - Butt slap.
15:57 - Shot of Ragyo and Satsuki’s face. This time, the lighting is on Satsuki.
16:03 - Closeup of Satsuki’s face into a close-up of Ragyo’s face. Still enraged / still gloating
16:09 - Shot of Satsuki’s legs from halfway down her thighs and panning downwards.
16:17 - Backwards shot of a bad touch sweeping down from Satsuki’s chest down to her behind.
16:28 - From Satsuki’s face into Ragyo’s face.
16:36 - Butt slap.
16:37 - Far shot of cage. Dark. More butt slaps and Ragyo emphasizing how much she wants Satsuki to hate her.
16:40 - Close up of faces. Butt slaps continue.
16:44 - Satsuki’s face, still mad. Still slapping. Maniacal laughter from Ragyo.
16:51 - End of the scene.

Let's recap -
lots of exposition
no lingering on boobs
lighting that deliberately de-emphasized Satsuki's body
lots of focus on the faces
fostering Satsuki's anger made a part of the conversation deliberately

If you think they spent a bunch of time on Satsuki's body you were paying attention to the wrong loving thing and you're using disgust to justify voyeurism. The scene wasn't fanservice. God drat.

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Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

lol

Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

it is always amazing. secret santa if you are out there, please make a cross stitch of this and mail it to me

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Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
I want to slap that anime on the butt as well

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

To be honest I could forgive the skeeze (mostly because I expect it with Imaishi anyway, though the molestation poo poo was beyond the pale even by his standards), I think the bigger problem with KLK is that it just usually wasn't that exciting and boy howdy did Ryuko suck. How many times did that girl decide to stop fighting and then start again?

Also the transformed Kamui commit anime high crime by looking less cool than the untransformed ones and the OST wasn't as good as Panty Stocking's.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Dick Spacious CPA posted:

it is always amazing. secret santa if you are out there, please make a cross stitch of this and mail it to me

I hope your secret santa can fulfill your kokoro wish, friend.

Harettazetta
Jul 22, 2006

"Well, what choice do I have!? Trust is for fools! Fear is the only reliable way!"

Rodyle posted:

Also the transformed Kamui commit anime high crime by looking less cool than the untransformed ones and the OST wasn't as good as Panty Stocking's.

But... I've got to find out who killed my dad.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Harettazetta posted:

But... I've got to find out who killed my dad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_QL6WV2bvM

:colbert:

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


i don't mind 'big titty cartoon ladies' porn in anime that much, but i do mind when it gets creepier than that, and, well, uh, killer kills kind of went there

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib
I don't watch much bad anime, but there were a couple notable stinkers.
Glasslip - The worst show P.A. has made. Well, I haven't seen Canaan, and I heard it wasn't good, but this was worse than RDG, and that was pretty bad.

Kill la Kill - Bad touch

I don't think any of the others I saw would warrant me recommending avoiding them, so I guess my list is just the two.

TheMopeSquad
Aug 5, 2013
In no particular order:

Tokyo Ravens: boring, terrible main character, good ending though, would have been better if it was only one season.
Tokyo ESP: disappointing adaptation.
Log Horizon: horrible talking, politics, talking, booooring, MORE TALKING, nothing happens.
Akame ga Kill: hate the main character, boring, not funny or amusing, inexplicable haremshit, terrible quality outside of fight scenes.
Sword Art Online: didn't watch this but I hate the first season so very much so gently caress this season, pretty sure it sucked anyways.

Padawan
Nov 27, 2014

Putting my vote to SAO II. Not a big fan of keeping the same name as the show even now as it's not even half the quality as it was in the beginning.

amuayse
Jul 20, 2013

by exmarx
Akame no Kill
I can't emphasize how horrible the tone is.
It rapidly shifts between "WOAH HOLY poo poo :black101: GRIMDARK :black101: TORTURE RAPE GORE" and "COMPLETELY :newlol: HI-LARIOUS:newlol: HAREM CHIBI CUTE MOMENT" to the point you think that there are two different teams constantly fighting over whether they want to make Berserk or Fairy Tale. It simply just makes all the characters seem downright insane at best or the writing completely nonlinear at worst.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Namtab posted:

Wark Say, No Game No Life was not counted in your votes as you stated you'd only seen 2 episodes (plus if I'd included it you'd have voted for 6 things).

Hope you're happy, Namtab! I actually went ahead and watched episodes 3 and 4 of this poo poo-shower. You can take my vote off from P4 Golden, because the dipshits behind this show actually thought that Jojo references count as redeeming qualities. Guess the screenwriter for this drivel went ahead and checked off a bunch of things using the Japanese equivalent for TV Tropes.

gently caress this show. Also, you're a jerk.

e: vvv 13-year old me would have been all over that challenge, I'm sure! :xd: vvv

Wark Say fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Dec 24, 2014

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
to really be able to properly vote you need to watch 3 episodes of every 2014 anime imo

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I liked No Game No Life but got really bored with it. It's premise kind of reminded me of Yu Gi Oh Season 0, but that just made me want more Season 0.

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Snow Halation
Dec 29, 2008

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

DokiDoki! Precure was my entrance to the precure franchise. i actually enjoyed it, probably because i marathoned it, but it was not a good show. it almost completely ignores the other characters in the team in favor of mana, who is so overpowered by the end of the show that she is directly compared to the big bang

DokiDoki! was a bad enough Precure series that I didn't even finish watching it. The yearly Precure series has always made my Best of the Year list until now. Shame on DokiDoki! for breaking that streak.

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