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Mahouka, Terraformars, Persona 4: The Golden, Psycho Pass 2, and Knights of Sidonia are unquestionably some of the worst shows to EVER be MADE EVER (this year). Objectively terrible animation, terrible pacing, confused writing, and extremely dubious content meld to make some seriously bad garbage that for some reason people convince themselves is good. I haven't seen everything this year but I have seen a large majority of it and these were the standouts aside from the obvious poo poo like Bottom Biting Bug that doesn't even count because it has the budget of a bacon egg and cheese sandwich. Terraformars is kinda racist, Mahouka is just... bad. I don't even know how to explain it. Persona 4: The Golden starts off as a pseudo-self-aware comedy about New Game Plus before devolving immediately into a cashgrab. Psycho-Pass 2 is just more Urobuchi writing "twists" that everyone understands and knows are coming because it's loving Urobuchi, all he does is write the same story constantly. Knights of Sidonia looks like this:  aers posted:FS/N This is also true. I think Fate is bad and it is Angel Beats level good at having an audience that thinks its the most beautiful thing ever made despite everyone having t-rex arms all the time, but it does get points for not being the trainwreck that was the DEEN Fate series. Though it is based off of a loving porn game that people worship for whatever reason, despite actually having pretty bad/dumb writing. People just love Nasu though, I guess. It's easier to determine what is good than what is bad because the general rule is 95% of everything released every year is absolutely unforgivable garbage so it's like, picking the bottom 5 is basically just putting a bow on a pile of poo poo. laplace fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Darth Walrus posted:P-P 2 wasn't written by Urobuchi. That's most people's biggest gripe with it, due to its utter failure to grasp the first season's themes and characterisation. I am shocked because I literally could not tell the difference, considering how his chops were all over season 1 and Season 2 is essentially a bad rewrite of the first season with lots of the same dumb shock value twists that scream Urobuchi. It's scary that his dumb signatures have become a genre of writing on their own to the point where derivatives feel so much like him that they're indistinguishable from the genuine product. The first season was bad too but I mean after a certain point it all melds together because it all loving sucks. Also, I just want to say that Parasyte: The Maxim is loving awful, ugly, and ruins an otherwise really great manga. gently caress that show.
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Dec 22, 2014 12:38
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Blockhouse posted:hahahahaha SALT CURES HAM posted:I'm sorry I didn't know this was mirror-universe ADTRW, how are things under the Fourth Reich? does my mirror counterpart have a rad goatee I watched the rest of the show and it gets better and the animation improves but it's still a long shot from its manga and it has the craziest pacing and direction. The first three episodes are probably the worst in the show, and it admittedly does get better when Shinichi's character actually stops being the weird loser they made him. The animator changes between episodes are still so stark and alarming, especially when it comes to drawing women -- sometimes they look like K-On moeblobs and othertimes they look like 90's madhouse characters. Hopefully the blurays will get better. Also the changes to Shinichi make him a super annoying and kind of jam a foot in his arc from the Manga, which is frustrating. Also changing the setting from the 90s to the 2010's when it's actually a point in the Manga that no one has cellphones and thats how the Parasytes are able to gently caress with everyone is like, a legitimate problem that is screwing with the show that they have to write around. My favorite part in this regard is when the dad just offhandedly goes "My phone and tablet fell into the water so I had to call you from a payphone!", which is like class a "We forgot about the time period because this is supposed to be an adaptation but we uselessly meddled with the setting" writing. Also it has really inconsistent character design/art direction, Tamiya looking like she's out of a completely different show and always looking terrifying when the point of her character is that she's supposed to be the perfect cover/be a hot teacher. But yeah it's still not great, super disappointing for a Manga that deserves a much better adaptation. It's not Mahouka, It's not the worst thing ever, but drat is it not good compared to its source material. Literally the best thing that can be said about it is that they didn't change Migi at all and Hirano Aya is like possibly the perfect voice actor for the role. At least it isn't the live action movie, which is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. laplace fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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Dec 23, 2014 11:31
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Uznare posted:This alone proves you don't know what you're talking about. The first episode is the best looking one by far. It had the god drat character designer as the animation director so everything stayed on model. Not to mention an all star animation team (spoilers it's not madhouse people because everyone jumped ship when Mappa was formed). It's been pretty bad with regards to staying on model afterwards. The redesigned characters are much much better than the old manga art and obviously modernize the show because it's a 20+ year old manga. I meant the animation improved from the dip in quality it had in episodes 2 and 3, 3 being noticeably different than the rest of the episodes, like, literally everyone looking randomly shoujo. Episode 10 (The baseball pitch episode) was notably better than the crop before it, which is what I was referencing when I said the animation managed to improve. Also the character designs for this show are rear end, especially compared to the old ones. Shinichi looks ridiculous, the teacher looks ridiculous, murano suddenly having red hair is ridiculous. The manga was grounded, relatively, in reality and it used that to juxtapose humanity with the weird parasytes. The anime is ridiculously anime looking for no reason, especially Shinichi, who essentially got morphed into every male nerd protagonist ever when the whole point was he was supposed to be an average dude of average build to demonstrate that the Parasytes could infect everyone, not to play into a weird lanky nerd fantasy. That's what I mean when I say the art direction in that show is creating active problems. It's 'modernizing' everything, and changing character designs while trying to be a direct adaptation, without realizing that the art was part of the visual structure of the manga's themes. They are needing to write around that, which is an actual problem. Aside from that, the show is paced like rear end and has the most ridiculous scene transitions -- literally there is no sense of direction in the show and what little direction is there varies so much between episode that it's hard to marathon the show because it has very little visual coherence. So I mean, you can say I don't know what I'm talking about but it's all there. I love horror, I love Parasyte's source material, and I don't mind that people like the show but it has a great number of noticeable flaws.
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Harettazetta posted:I see. Go on. Adapting something's themes and writing without paying attention to all of its setups is asking for mediocrity, as is changing things without, you know, going the full mile and changing the things that interact with them. My point isn't "but the manga was better" but rather "wow the show's a mess and the only reason I really understand a lot of what it's doing thematically is because I've read the manga, that's a problem"
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Sakurazuka posted:edit: Also I can barely even remember mobile phones being brought up and certainly not 'whoops I've dropped them into the water/no signal', if anything the anime exists in an alternate universe 21st century where tablets were invented but mobile phones weren't. Episode 6 when the dad is in the hospital. The quote is like "I dropped my cellphone and tablet into the water when we were attacked, so I had to use a payphone!" Also my complaint with Murano isn't that she has red hair, it's that she's has special snowflake design and has to have special colored anime hair to differentiate her from everyone when the point is... spoiler alert.... everyone is cattle. Also she experiences some of the more intense art sway between episodes. Edit: Timestamp for that is 18:32 on Crunchyroll in a scene that is there literally just for that line. laplace fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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Mentioning it once doesn't ruin the show, it's the build up of little quirks like that in the writing that show how haphazard the adaptation is. Especially when one of the points of the overarching narrative was that communication not being a thing was huge to the invasion, whereas nowadays youtube and smartphones are prevalent and people use them actively in the show... except conveniently when the writers decide that everyone forgets that they own them. This also is a problem with the weird parasyte otaku brother character, who for some reason draws out a picture of the parasytes for his sister when... the computer with the internet is right there and he talks to people on the internet about the Parasytes. The setting change wouldn't be so bad if they... actually rewrote the show to take advantage of it but slapping a comic about the horrible world of the 90s onto the 2010s doesn't work like that. Also: Murano has a hair color that is completely unique to her in the show. Her hair is tinted red, her eyes are weirdly red too. Unless I'm colorblind and don't know it, the picture you posted totally demonstrates that. While this wouldn't be a huge problem, the show tries pretty hard to give everyone else regular human design, which really greatly contrasts with the main characters. It's an anime thing to do but it's still stupid and poor design. Tamiya is the biggest culprit in this regard because she has purple hair. Little things that add up and create larger narrative problems. They're there. You can't erase them by going "BUT I LIKE IT WEH!!!! YOU'RE BEING TOO CRITICAL!!!" in a thread that is literally about being critical about anime. laplace fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Sakurazuka posted:it's not like they've got Shiki style hair in a realistic setting. You are completely right about that, and I'm so glad the show isn't Shiki. I didn't mean to say the show was as bad as Mahouka, just that it was my biggest disappointment of the year for something that I wanted to be so much better.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:37
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chumbler posted:Serious question here, is Korra actually worth watching? I have not seen a single episode of either it or the first Avatar. Followup question, and possibly more important than the first, are there gundams? 1.) It's alright, more unintentionally bad due to rewrites and studio meddling than actively bad. It tries stuff and fails at it. It's alright looking most of the time. 2.) Yes, there is a gundam. (Spoilers)
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"It's almost satire!" Is a really bad way to swipe dumb poo poo under the rug because by all accounts KlK Attempts to be satire but then just becomes the thing it is satirizing. That was the worst part about the show, at times they took things too far and the line between 'we're making commentary!!' and actual kind of gross, sexualized humor became blurred. I liked the second half of KlK quite a bit. I'm gay, I could care less about titty anime, but like.... KlK's biggest flaw is that it becomes what it makes fun of. It was a pretty big thing. Also: I've lived in Japan. PDA is very weird and foreign but kissing is most certainly not considered sexual assault. In all actuality, there are very few boundaries in Japan. Guys would go up to girls they were not dating all the time and kiss them, and while the girls would freak out, no one would get into any trouble for it because it was just Dudes Bein Dudes. People get Kancho'd all the time no matter the age and it's not uncommon to see people pantsed or other sexual things happen without reparation. So yeah, that's just like, objectively false. Japan is an oddly repressed society but one of the ways that manifests is there being no boundaries and people never getting in trouble for doing poo poo because it's seen as normal. I lived in a relatively conservative area and yet I still walked onto two people loving in a park at night.
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Does my life story get bonus points for being satire if I get ogled/accidentally assaulted on a train by an old man? Specifically if it smash cuts to him accidentally groping my butt when he was trying to get to the schoolgirl next to me?
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Dec 27, 2014 05:59
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Madoka Magica is the best anime ever made and urobutcher made me cry a million tears because of how deep and well written it was. a million times better than Evangelion and the other pleb poo poo people watch. KlK is just for Gainax nerds who can't accept that SHAFT is the true master studio. Anime is art. 
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Dec 27, 2014 12:11
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It was a ruse, I don't actually mean the things I type on the something awful dot com forums. Anime is a lie perpetuated by satanists trying to convert children into gay anime.
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Dec 27, 2014 12:33
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a cartoon duck posted:so what you're saying is sexual assault isn't considered sexual assault in japan? I'm saying the image of Japan as a perfectly beautiful honoraburu nation is completely off base because Japan is Sexism The Country
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Dec 28, 2014 04:18
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Korean Cartoons aren't real anime
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Dec 28, 2014 04:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2lVi-SeIx0
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Dec 28, 2014 08:28
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LOGH is extremely good, and I honestly think people who like Ping Pong or other Yuasa stuff will genuinely appreciate the quality and writing in LOGH. It's not really niche once you get into it. The only thing Niche about it is its setting. Everything else in it is what makes good TV. Excellent writting, well developed characters and themes, amazingly good pacing for a show that seems incredibly long and has a longer run time than most anime. LoGH is like, genuinely amazing. And not in a 'This is a niche anime you've never heard of you pleb" way but in a serious, this is actually the cream of the crop way. It's not the best anime ever made (tatami galaxy hello how are you) but it's up there, definitely in the top 5. Utena is also amazing.
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Dec 29, 2014 04:36
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The stock footage in Utena actually serves a narrative purpose, forcing the viewer to go through and understand the repetition of both life and the Ohtori cycle. This is not a joke it was a directorial decision that Ikuhara made, and talks about at length in the director's commentary. Utena has some questionable decisions but all in all it is an objectively excellent show with better direction than most anime. The ending of the series still sits with me as one of the best final 3 episodes I've ever watched. Penguindrum was a horrible mess though, but I mean, can't strike gold twice I guess.
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maybe the footage wasn't mind numbing, but rather your mind was already numb to begin with 
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RottenK posted:Also, a few people had Samurai Flamenco as their worst. I'd like to see a non-spoilery explanation. I was curious about tihs show, and planned to watch it. What's wrong with it? It is a show where you don't get what you go in paying for, and it has a bad middle arc. Kind of spoilery but not really comparison: It's the Metal Gear Rising of anime. Literally. I liked it enough, even with it being pretty ugly a lot of the time and having a really dumb and boring middle arc.
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I actually almost like what the middle arc does to the narrative of Samurai Flamenco re: constructing a world where Lovecraftian Cosmic horrors spill into the real world and despite the characters attempting to continue living life normally still cannot maintain reality. Then I remember that the best part about the final arc is that it's grounded entirely in reality, which like completely breaks the themes the middle arc attempted poorly to construct. Samurai Flamenco is not good, I wouldn't say its the worst, but it tries? It mostly fails. Probably not actually worth watching the whole thing.
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ninjewtsu posted:This was what was cool about episodes 7-10 Yeah. I just mean to say that there was some potential in that middle arc to demonstrate that the buck doesn't just stop once things get ridiculous, but it completely forgets that by the end, which is the real fault of the middle arc aside from being hideously boring and under developed. Gyra_Solune posted:I just wish Satsuki would do something about those eyebrows, i mean jeez you'd think with all that cash you could afford to get them taken care of Satsuki's eyebrows were the best part about Kill la Kill
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ADTRW General: WickedHate has Wicked Bad taste in Anime
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I like the idea that the author of a manga "threatens" to write longer chapters.
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Hell yeah, Tetsuo is like the perfect student film version of a Cronenberg and Lynch joint production.
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