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ufarn: May 30, 2009

Ravane posted:

Never actually watched the X-files, thought it was about ghosts actually. Season 9 appears to have come out when I was 10, it's understandable why I never watched it. Might catch the reboot though.

You're killing me here.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 22:24

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 14:54

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Later seasons aside, I felt the X-Files was a fairly procedural show with an arch to keep it from being grinding to a halt; Lost was more focused with its core narrative, and the standalone episodes felt more like filler than something else.

A better example is JJA's Alias's semi-supernatural Rambaldi arc that drove the show as the main, where double- triple-crossing was a sub-arc to that.

That's why X-Files is so great; the episodes can be watched outside of continuity like a Twilight Zone or Black Mirror episode can - with exceptions of course.

Mulder's sister was not exactly a plot arc, and all the conspiracies felt more like worldbuilding than a plotline in itself.

I just finished Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, and it's funny how X-Files it is in the first half of season one; it has this great world with some standalone episodes that are dead ringers for X-Files each with their own philosophical themes.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 18, 2015

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 23:09

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Mo0 posted:

Yeah, I think Malvo is... I dunno, maybe magnetic is the right word? It's not like I *like* him, but I *appreciate* him. I'm finding it hard to describe.

*finger pistols*

# ¿ Jan 20, 2015 10:17

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Rabbit Hill posted:

Random PSA: If you're on Twitter and don't already follow Ron Perlman, you need to remedy that right quick. https://twitter.com/perlmutations He is exactly what you'd expect him to be (hilarious and awesome).

I just realized how awesome he would be as Batou in the Ghost in the Shell movie - now that they're whitewashing the whole thing anyway.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2015 22:10

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deadpool posted:

So is it more serious talk or is it just more of "Make the news funny" like Stewart, Colbert, and Oliver? Because I've been pretty well burnt out on the latter for a good while. I guess it being on Comedy Central and being hosted by a comedian answers the question for me. But maybe not.

Colbert and Stewart usually try to leave things on a high note or to make lemonade out of lemons, but Wilmore just leaves it at "yup, this sucks", which is a refreshing angle.

Oliver did this to an extent, but he usually bookends the segments with a funny sketch or concept.

Which is easier, given that most of the things they talked about them don't affect them every day the way racism affects Wilmore and black people.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2015 11:40

ufarn: May 30, 2009

The third season was awful and where I quit. I've tried so many times to go through it, but there was just too much misery porn.

The first two seasons were absolutely fantastic, though.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 12:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Last episode of Quantico was sooo bad, omg. I know it's not a good show, but it's such a parody of itself.

And C'MON with that swimming pool scene.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 15:11

ufarn: May 30, 2009

People new to Quantico may ask: are these people spies, terrorists or fifth-column gamergaters?

The answer is yes.

I am literally counting down to the show's first quadruple agent.

It's like Axe Cop, but with a female FBI cadet.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 16:05

ufarn: May 30, 2009

VDay posted:

Is Quantico just that one season of Nikita where Alex was undercover in assassin high school but stretched into a whole show? Because that's all I can think of when I see the commercials.

Each character has six dossiers of secrets and is working for another person in the shadows, and wants to gently caress one of the other members - and inevitably will at some point.

Their superiors/teachers subject them to tasks straight out of a reality show.

If you see the promos, you'll also find that they undercut the argument of the show being empowering to women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVBvY-SmsyI

I can totally accept hot people schuping each other - as a concept, Shonda Rhimes TV is not my bag - but it's such a bummer to have an historic Indian actress lead a show and have it be as exploitative as that BS.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 19:08

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Sober posted:

Quantico is not a Shondaland show, btw.

It just happens to be very much Greys Anatomy/How to Get Away With Murder-ish quite a bit though.

It's not by Rhimes, but it's straight-up the same format - on ABC.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 19:12

ufarn: May 30, 2009

zoux posted:

Speaking of, what's the general opinion of the new Daily Show host guy.

He�s doing a great job in general. His comedic timing is really bad, and he doesn�t know when to move on from a joke to the next one, but he has plenty of time to learn. And his constant smiling and enthusiasm is contagious.

Either his writers are much better, or his fellow reporters just like the new energy around the office a lot more, because they�re knocking it out of the park.

The old Daily Show stopped being funny a while ago, and the new show is much better than the note the old one ended on.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 08:40

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I loved that Ta-Nehisi looked like someone who�d just been called the n-word, when Trevor Noah said he hadn�t pegged him for a comicbook guy.

There is no bigger insult to that guy than to his comicbook sensibilities.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 10:02

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Goddamn that Manhattan episode.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 18:39

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Per posted:

I couldn't find a Manhattan thread. Are anyone watching it?

It's really good. Which is nice, because the ending of last season ran into some pacing issues.

Dunno how they'll keep things going, but it's worth watching right now.

And I can't admit to watching Quantico while discouraging people from watching Manhattan.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2015 17:17

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Boatswain posted:

Quantico is awful. The voiceover introduction "I never thought I had to save America to save myself" makes me think of the Community Christmas rap though.

Give it some time, it's going to circle all the way around to comedy soon enough.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 20:24

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Quantico has pretty amazing VOD/DVR numbers inspite of a decline in live viewings, I seem to recall. It's pretty confusing, especially when networks have done a poor job of accounting for VOD viewership.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 20:06

ufarn: May 30, 2009

zoux posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=befGQC1iMgI

Here's a preview for NBC's next attempt at a movie star led prestige style drama that is going to fail miserably.

Why did they film it like a spoof? Looks like it's higher than 24p, which usually just makes a show look more like a soap opera.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 16:52

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Quantico is turning into antiterrorism Glee.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Nov 9, 2015

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 17:37

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Timby posted:

So my wife has been binging on the UK version of Shameless over the past month or so, and I watched probably a dozen episodes with her yesterday ... holy God, that is a strange, depressing show.

I had to quit the US show, because it turned into straight up misery porn.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 22:57

ufarn: May 30, 2009

tao of lmao posted:

Do people care about Blindspot here at all? I couldn't find a thread, but it got picked up for a second season already, and is the highest rated new series of the season.

I'm already hatewatching Quantico, and there's only room for one show there.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 00:08

ufarn: May 30, 2009

nvm

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 21:44

ufarn: May 30, 2009

friendo55 posted:

Would Frasier be a good blind-buy and a show to start watching?

It's currently on Amazon.ca for $49.99 - today only

I always thought it'd be a show I'd appreciate when I was older, because as a kid it just never grabbed my attention.

It's one of the best sit-coms - or shows - of all time, and the humour was very intelligent. That said, I don't know how it ages on things like race and sexism like with everything else, but it's one of my favourite shows, not just comedies, right there with Allo Allo and Yes Minister.

It kinda ruins other sit-coms for you, because the jokes are so clever, which is rarely the case for any sit-com, then as now.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2015 00:55

ufarn: May 30, 2009

PriorMarcus posted:

How is Fargo Season 2?

It's very good (after episode 2). It feels a lot like film-student bait, though, which is partly responsible for the reception, but the production value and acting is pretty high up there.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 12:18

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Jessica Jones was quite good, but Kilgrave was only an interesting character in an abstract level. His writing was fairly uninteresting and nowhere near Fisk. Kilgrave is immensely fascinationg theoretically, but I didn't feel that the writer(s) did a lot with him.

The show could really have used a side or semi-boss for the weird pacing, but obviously that doesn't really work, when everyone is a potential henchman. The plot just zig-zagged too much instead of progressing in a more satisfying way.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2015 21:25

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Vodos posted:

JJ seems pretty good, I instantly liked Trish but I fear she's gonna suffer and/or die horribly. I don't like the save the world type of superhero stuff so this is rather enjoyable. What bugs me though is that a mind-controller would waste his time torturing one woman when there's so much he could be doing. Like make W shoot Cheney in the face on Fox News or make gay-bashing congressmen gently caress each other live on CSPAN. You know, fun stuff!

Or make Bush choke on a pretzel or get Cheney to shoot a friend hunting fowl - and getting the dude who got shot to apologize? Maybe he does exist.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2015 21:35

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Rarity posted:

The fact the show never strays too far away from Kilgrave is the point. Just like Jess says at one point 'he's always in here'. No matter what's happening the show can't ignore Kilgrave because Jess can't ignore Kilgrave. Even when there are episodes where Tennant doesn't even show up, it's still the focus because that's what you get when you have to deal with PTSD and trauma. It's always there and the viewer has to face it just as much as Jessica does.

I'm fine with that, but the show still needed a better sense of progression regardless of Kilgrave. Jessica can fight a lot of battles, and I wasn't too big a fan of the pattern of four steps forward, three steps back, let's try to do something extremely risky without knowing how it'll pay off. It lost its power for me at one point. And you never really knew whether Kilgrave was doing better or worse, even with his late-stage plans, so things didn't feel like they were moving much, and the threat and stakes stopped seeming worse. Hope or not.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2015 21:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

There's a new trend of not cancelling shows this season. I wouldn't ascribe any mercy to it.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 14:48

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Mu Zeta posted:

Quantico is the best teen show of the year.

It's literally Glee with federal agents.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 23:25

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Steve2911 posted:

Never seen Six Feet Under before but I need a new boxset to devour. Before I get it, is it likely to get a Blu Ray release any time soon?

The general problem with Blu-ray releases of TV shows is that they convert the 4:3 format to 16:9, which adds a lot of the frame that wasn't intended to be there. The Wire and, I believe, X-Files are examples of why this isn't great.

It's a shame that it's usually up to hobbyists to do the restoration properly, but aspect ratios continue to be something few people care about.

What I'm trying to say is that Blu-ray releases of older show are usually a disappointment, so don't worry too much about it.

Cactus posted:

Bring tissues.

You responded to the Six Feet Under post, not the Quantico one, FYI.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 19:22

ufarn: May 30, 2009

X-O posted:

No, this is the 25+ episode WWII documentary that was made in the '70s. The single best documentary of the War that will ever be produced

This is a fact.

Tucked-In T-Shirt posted:

The more you guys make fun of Quantico the more I want to watch it.

It's a decent hatewatch. Borderline, but I feel everyone needs at least one hatewatch show in their life.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 22:14

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Sooooo, when people said The 100 was bleak, they really meant really loving goddamn jesus christ bleak. :stare:

# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 20:56

ufarn: May 30, 2009

What are you even, show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW8P19OdzE

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 00:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Lycus posted:

Do they shoot criminals on that show, or do they just do that for an hour?

Cupid does most of the shooting.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Dec 5, 2015

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 10:10

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Mu Zeta posted:

In the run up to the Quantico premiere there were tons of articles about how NBC landed this amazing actor from India and that it's a real game changer in Hollywood. Well the show is loving terrible and she sucks. The gently caress were they talking about?

Priyanka Chopra's amazing, and her status and reputation are well-earnt, but acting is not in the top three of things a Bollywood demands of someone. It's still sad that she's been 15 years in the business and didn't find a way to hold her acting to a higher international standard.

And Bollywood movies are so skull-numbingly terrible (plot- and acting-wise at least!) that it's hard to explain to outsiders just how low the standards for acting are there. They don't exactly do a lot of subtle acting.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Dec 5, 2015

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 22:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

less laughter posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPhhZg9v9NU

Quantico needs to do a musical episode ASAP

So here's the thing, Priyanka can't really sing either, but she's a mean dancer - probably the best in Bollywood as a matter of fact.

But I think her singing will be about as grating as her acting (on Quantico).

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 22:54

ufarn: May 30, 2009

There's also that whole thing about female, non-white representation on TV. It's Shondaland TV, not "some famous actress doing whatever US TV". Quantico is a poo poo show, but it's a huge accomplishment in terms of diversity, even though we can sit here and ignore that as a bunch of white goons.

And it's on ABC which is owned by Disney, which is a huge presence in Bollywood with UTV and everything. Disney want to do everything, and I'm sure they'd love to be as global as possible.

The world's not any larger than Jimmy Iovine producing Priyanka's music. It's not like she arrived to the US on a boat.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Dec 5, 2015

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 23:23

ufarn: May 30, 2009

double post

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 23:25

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I think, her horrid acting aside, that it might have taken her megastatus and ABC's Shondaverse for a brown desi woman to get a lead role on American TV - that appears to be killing it in many ratings. I think that's the most interesting part of all this. Quantico is the worst show I may have ever watched, but I am immensely happy that the show exists, and that Priyanka is getting this exposure, regardless of what an execrable vehicle it is for her.

In some way bringing her in seems like the most obvious decision in the world, but it's kind of amazing that it took so long for it to happen, and I can't help wonder what made the difference, especially given the stories about how ABC kept lobbying Priyanka to do just about any show.

(Which makes me wonder what kind of loving awful script Priyanka got for her to pick this particular show, but that's for another discussion.)

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 23:31

ufarn: May 30, 2009

There's a special place in hell for the show that shares a large responsibility for the moral-of-the-story voiceover trope on TV.

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 23:44

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 14:54

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Snak posted:

Man I really want to contribute to that TVIV poll, but I don't think I've watched 10 good shows from this year... I've got six so far, and everything else I remember watching was bad. I guess I should watch some more shows really quick...

You can cheat and put Last Week Tonight there.

sbaldrick posted:

I don't think Priyanka Chopra is the real problem with Quantico, the real fact is the show is so loving bad you could slap of the best actresses in history in that show and it wouldn't help.

Oh no doubt, but Chopra also doesn't appear to have the acument to calibrate her performance to the tone and silliness of the show. Again, not that it's a great vehicle, but I don't think it was inevitable for her to look as bad on the show as she does.

She's a great actress insofar that she does a great job in her Bollywood movies, but I don't think she's got much experience to speak of doing acting-acting. I've yet to see Mary Kom - she was lovely in Barfi - and I didn't bother watching 7 Khoon Maaf, which looked terrible. She's obviously free to do what she wants, but rather than doing four movies a year, I think it would have been good for her to hone her acting-acting skills in some other way.

When you look at Shah Rukh Khan who's more or less the biggest (male) actor in Bollywood, you have to use an electron microscope to find great acting talent. Same for Hrithic Roshan's (and Ranveer Singh's) performances.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Dec 6, 2015

# ¿ Dec 6, 2015 01:03

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