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i dont understand why you didnt put the concept art for the girls in the op 
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Watch the sub. From what I remember the dub was made to try and cash in on Sailor Moon, and... no.
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Jan 4, 2015 14:55
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It's not as heavily edited, but they made attempts to downplay the sexuality, homo or otherwise, at least from what I remember. Also, the dubbing is pretty bad in general. The shadow play girls, especially, are way too overacting and drawn out, when the entire gag in the original was how spontaneous they were, how they were chatting like hyper schoolgirls. It's like the dubbers saw that they were supposed to be deep and decided that deep = talking slowly and dramatically.
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Jan 4, 2015 15:51
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I feel like Slayers has way more potential for saturday morning cartoonism than Utena, period jokes aside. edit: Though if they tried to make Gourry the protagonist instead of Lina, like Escaflowne tried to do, then, uhh...
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Jan 4, 2015 17:35
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They edited it to try and make it about the guys, even though the protagonist is female and it's a pretty shoujo series. There's definitely action in the show, but I wouldn't call it an action series, which is what they tried to make it be. A real square peg, round hole situation. Compare the JP OP to the US one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhcChdCAUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZXbrqPjKM
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Jan 4, 2015 17:42
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lol @ goons making excuses
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Jan 5, 2015 18:38
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Sakurazuka posted:I like nudity, fan-service and lesbians, I am going to like this show. just say your watching the show with the underage girls getting naked and licking each other's feet in the op. you dont need to make excuses. just do that.
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Jan 5, 2015 18:41
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So is this shaping up to be the best anime to get hornery to this season? 
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Jan 6, 2015 01:35
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Hrm - that doesn't seem accurate. That bear is an adult. 
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Jan 6, 2015 01:37
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Space Bat posted:They're mostly bad and frankly, he likes to diddle kids.
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Jan 6, 2015 02:07
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:You know, ignoring the obvious thing to argue about for a second, this was kind of a dull first episode. It feels like a parody of Ikuhara, with all the flashing lights and roses and lesbians but nothing to ground it. The characters have very little personality and motivations that are either simple or too abstract to make sense of / relate to yet, and the visuals border on self-plagiarism. It just doesn't feel like there's anything new here, and it doesn't even live up to the personality of the things its imitating.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:11
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Sakurazuka posted:So far much less rape, other than that ask yourself honestly
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Jan 6, 2015 06:28
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anyway my problem with penguindrum is that it sucks or to be more accurate: utena used its metaphors and symbolism and motifs and whatever other fancy words you wanna add in there to advance the story and characters. you thought about a bit of symbolism and figured out a thing. that's how symbolism is supposed to work. they were obvious enough to be easily figured out but well-used enough to be worthy of thought. penguindrum used its metaphors and symbolism to advance the metaphors and symbolism. there's no meat, no neat revelations hidden beneath the surface, just more impenetrable layers of bullshit. it's got half the actual substance of utena and ten times the nonsense cloaking it. im not one of those people who thinks utena is the deepest anime ever made, but that's exactly my point - it wasn't trying to be. it was using those things, but it was using them for a reason, not because ikuhara was masturbating furiously over twin peaks reruns and sailor moon yuri doujins.
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Jan 6, 2015 06:52
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also the sailor moon anime is way better than the manga but wasn't it a result of people telling the original creator 'lol you're a vaginahaver' and giving her next to no input
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Jan 6, 2015 06:53
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Talho and the other adult lady might kiss later
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Jan 6, 2015 06:59
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I'm happy Effectronica and Dr. Paper have become friends. Space Flower might have been onto something. 
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Jan 6, 2015 07:16
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OnimaruXLR posted:I mean, you've got a bizarre carnivorous threat to all human life, a wall that's pretty clearly part metaphor, infiltrators, violent death of the ostensible protagonist's loved one in the first episode... uh... a hunting rifle... ?
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Jan 6, 2015 07:22
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Jan 6, 2015 18:45
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i wonder how bullying could relate to homosexuality hmmm
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Jan 8, 2015 03:41
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Effectronica posted:Yeah, the-thirty-dollar-BYOB-agreed-emote.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:43
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yeah but on the other hand ikuhara has quotes like quote:if I have a guy in the show, the love relationship gets to have a bigger role than the show
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Jan 10, 2015 00:26
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no see it's okay because Iku 'I gave her big tits because I wanted an oppai mousepad' hara is making it
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Jan 14, 2015 02:27
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it serves a purpose, uh, sometimes, but it also totally exists to give dudes huge boners like nobody was going 'drat, this is going to get creeps off, but we must do it... for our craft...'
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Jan 14, 2015 15:48
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Beef Waifu posted:There is not a single Japanese writer who is making statements against fanservice using it. Like, they might use it as a punchline or something, but no one in Japan is like "Oh yeah, fanservice is mega bad, bro." He's given everything he can. There are no more heroes left in Japan.
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Jan 15, 2015 01:47
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show's theme: ikuhara's huuuuge erection show's images: titties show's idea: fapfapfapfapfapfap
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Jan 20, 2015 10:35
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Space Flower posted:EDIT: I don't want to waste a post on pure vitriol but I'll keep going—your shitposts continuously irk me. What is your angle, bro? Are you completely ignorant of the cultural context behind this show? Are you just rusing for 'teh lulz'? and a lesbian at that actually so, yeah, sorry i dont feel like ikuhara-sama is coming down from on-high to lead me to the promised land via anime titties
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Jan 20, 2015 23:27
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Effectronica posted:If it helps, I prefer your posts to Space Flower jabbering about how this show is giving objectification and patriarchy the ole one-two to the gut. but yeah this show has obvious themes and messages, im not arguing that im saying that the way they're executed is awful. ive got nothing against sex, utena had plenty of weird sexuality in it too, but the difference is in Utena it felt like it was all there for a reason, that it was being used to make a point. in this show it feels like shameless pandering. People keep going 'well, it's Ikuhara, he wouldn't do that!" but what the hell has Ikuhara done to earn that? He's done Sailor Moon, which was a manga adaptation where everyone involved basically barred the actual creator of the manga from having any input because she was a vaginahaver, he did Utena, which I love, and then he did Penguindrum, which is a show that happened, and now he's making  . im not saying we should string him up by his gills and force him to breathe air, if he wants to make a weird titty show then let him, but people acting like he's the new god of feminism is the most annoying poo poo. If people find some sort of meaning and comfort in the show, awesome, but right now this thread feels like a bunch of people jacking it and feeling good about themselves, because they're getting off and they're fighting for homosexual rights in Japan.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:37
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Effectronica posted:i guess it;s about time to find some geicomi that are autobiographical so we can have a thread about plica, rica 'tte kanji!, etc. Lucy Heartfilia posted:lesbians are hot
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Jan 20, 2015 23:40
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Effectronica posted:geicomi is what japanese people call comics about gay men that are aimed at gay men. plica and rica 'tte kanji! are autobiographical yuri series.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:42
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Effectronica posted:plica's surprisingly thoughtful and honest (and has nifty watercolor art), rica 'tte kanji i don't remember as much but i remember it being a cut about the usual. which i guess makes it not class s but you know
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Jan 20, 2015 23:46
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i dont think that last one is from yurikuma also what does that guy need a tokyopop bag that big for
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Jan 20, 2015 23:54
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Cao Ni Ma posted:isnt the new sailor moon more faithful to the manga and it also sucks horribly? my favorite part of the manga is how haruka and michiru are both noncharacters and also really awkwardly dance around lesbianism by having michiru go 'haruka is neither a man or a woman... but she's kind of a dude... but sort of a girl...' and then never having them show any real affection for each other onscreen meanwhile in the 90s anime  
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Jan 21, 2015 02:16
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Effectronica posted:what translation did you read because they're pretty affectionate in their later appearances either way i definitely liked the anime more, the characters felt more alive even outside of haruka/michiru.
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Jan 21, 2015 02:57
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considering how bum a rep she got on the 90s anime, i wouldn't be surprised if takeuchi basically told them that they could either make a direct 1:1 copy/paste or they could gently caress off.
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Jan 21, 2015 03:13
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really this entire argument is about nothing because yuri is a nebulous concept that encompasses a lot of things and the definition is vague and blurry at best
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Feb 19, 2015 03:50
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utena is the only ikuhara worth watchingSpace Flower posted:I'm not taking a high road, either. I felt very foolish after getting defensive and jumping on Endorph earlier. I was just throwing baseless accusations because the "this show is bad and you should feel bad for liking it" posting got to me and I lashed out irrationally. So I could just be projecting here. Sorry. no offense dude but if someone making a joke about an anime makes you defensive maybe you should chill Endorph fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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Mar 14, 2015 17:00
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Beef Waifu posted:The first dub episode hit and hoo boy is it something.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:47
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Sakurazuka posted:Oh. Ugh.
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Mar 30, 2015 06:27
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Kaelan Zero posted:Your general criticism is something I actually would aim somewhat at Morishima's work Admittedly i haven't read all of morishima's manga but come on.
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to be honest if ikuhara wanted to make a point against the 'all lesbian romance is broken up by death' thing he would have just had anthy walking around in the background of every single shot and then the last episode you can see anthy and utena holding hands in the background welp, bye
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