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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b2d7a0252dd04676b20697bd39356fcc/7-kids-reunite-parents-lost-nigeria-islamic-uprising http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/09/boko-haram-may-have-killed-2000-people-in-one-attack/ quote:YOLA, Nigeria (AP) — Hundreds of bodies — too many to count — remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International suggested Friday is the "deadliest massacre" in the history of Boko Haram. Apparently, kidnapping those girls wasn't enough. Wasn't 2015 meant to be better than 2014?
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Boko Haram are badmen Also their increased activity has wider risks in that it may disrupt the count in the affected provinces in the upcoming Presidential election. The provinces they are most active in voted for Muhammadu Buhari last time around in 2011 and he's running again this year, the security forces have been accused of bias against Buhari and there are concerns relating to how the count will be conducted. Last time Buhari lost there was rioting and sectarian violence, this election is meant to be closer and if people smell a rat it ain't going to end well.
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Jan 9, 2015 21:12
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Did I read that right? 2000 dead and a town razed? Holy poo poo. Why has Nigeria not been able to deal with this? Are they really that callous that they're not willing to spend the effort to put a stop to this?
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Jan 9, 2015 21:25
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Gorau posted:Did I read that right? 2000 dead and a town razed? Holy poo poo. 16 towns razed.
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Jan 9, 2015 21:27
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Armyman25 posted:16 towns razed.
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Gorau posted:Did I read that right? 2000 dead and a town razed? Holy poo poo. Why has Nigeria not been able to deal with this? Are they really that callous that they're not willing to spend the effort to put a stop to this? I'm going to take a wild guess and say Nigeria possibly doesn't have the organization or resources to do that
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Jan 9, 2015 21:28
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And Islamic extremism claims a whole bunch more lives... But let's hear from the apologist brigade about how this totally doesn't have anything to do with religion.
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PT6A posted:And Islamic extremism claims a whole bunch more lives... hrm yes, "Exterminate The Brutes" is a sound, proven, and moral ideology, tell me more
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Jan 9, 2015 21:32
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PT6A posted:And Islamic extremism claims a whole bunch more lives... Religion is, as usual, a thin veneer of justification painted over what is, as usual, ethnic and economic strife and petty human drama. Edit: that is to say, in the absence of religion this same poo poo would still be happening all the time all over, with maaaybe a slightly different rationale.
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Jan 9, 2015 21:33
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icantfindaname posted:I'm going to take a wild guess and say Nigeria possibly doesn't have the organization or resources to do that Well until the collapse they had plenty of oil money, but guess they had better things to spend it on. Also holy gently caress
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Jan 9, 2015 21:33
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stinkles1112 posted:Religion is, as usual, a thin veneer of justification painted over what is, as usual, ethnic and economic strife and petty human drama. Give this man a dollar
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Jan 9, 2015 21:34
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I gotta say though, the 24 hour news cycle has been getting some top quality feedstock these last few weeks
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Two things can't occupy the top spot though. Anyone want to take bets on which one has more staying power?
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No one cares about dead africans so I'd say that the top spot will be spent on fear mongering and wishful thinking by the news media on whether a terrorist attack will occur here.
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quote:At the sight of the incoming insurgents, the soldiers put up a scant fight before abandoning their base and leaving residents defenseless. quote:A video recently emerged, Genocide Watch reported, that shows gunmen shooting civilians as they lay face down in a dormitory. A local leader explains they are “infidels,” even though he admits they’re Muslim: “We have made sure the floor of this hall is turned red with blood, and this is how it is going to be in all future attacks and arrests of infidels. From now on, killing, slaughtering, destruction and bombings will be our religious duty anywhere we invade.” quote:And now, with Boko Haram’s campaign to control northeast Nigeria complete, analysts said its territorial ambitions have outgrown Nigeria’s porous borders. These guys are just getting worse and worse 
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ReidRansom posted:Well until the collapse they had plenty of oil money, but guess they had better things to spend it on. Namely, themselves. Nigeria should be richer than the rest of Africa because of its oil money, but its standard of living is pretty close to the rest IIRC.
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Jan 9, 2015 21:42
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Pimpmust posted:These guys are just getting worse and worse They kidnapped the wife of the vice-president of Cameroon last year. That was crazy
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quote:A video recently emerged, Genocide Watch reported, that shows gunmen shooting civilians as they lay face down in a dormitory. A local leader explains they are “infidels,” even though he admits they’re Muslim: “We have made sure the floor of this hall is turned red with blood, and this is how it is going to be in all future attacks and arrests of infidels. From now on, killing, slaughtering, destruction and bombings will be our religious duty anywhere we invade.” Can we be sure this isn't just a huge misunderstanding? Can somebody check to make sure Boko Haram's Korans don't all say 'Warhammer 40,000' on the front?
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Jan 9, 2015 21:54
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quote:A video recently emerged, Genocide Watch reported, that shows gunmen shooting civilians as they lay face down in a dormitory. A local leader explains they are “infidels,” even though he admits they’re Muslim: “We have made sure the floor of this hall is turned red with blood, and this is how it is going to be in all future attacks and arrests of infidels. From now on, killing, slaughtering, destruction and bombings will be our religious duty anywhere we invade.” Goddamn they're not even making a weak attempt at religious piety anymore. This is nothing but psychopathic spree killing of "infidels" defined as whoever the gently caress is in front of them at any given moment.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:14
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They're just using Islam as an excuse to act on their psychotic mentalities  If they weren't Islamic they would still act like savages. Boko Haram & IS are full of disenfranchised (often young) people without a positive identity looking to act like thugs. They claim to act in the name of Islam but it's just a front. These guys are hosed in the head. It doesn't really matter to them.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:18
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 MAIM KILL BURN! MAIM KILL BURN! MAIM KILL BURN!
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Boko Haram [is] full of disenfranchised (often young) people without a positive identity looking to act like thugs. Pretty much. Boko Haram was pretty non-violent for like a decade, then they blew up into a big "gently caress the police, gently caress the richer south, gently caress the West, gently caress everything" group. They have no real ideology or internal consistency to speak of. They are just there for the violence. Not a lot to do there but kill them and hopefully raise the standard of living somewhat to keep people joining up with them.
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Schizotek posted:MAIM KILL BURN! MAIM KILL BURN! MAIM KILL BURN! It's actually unironically KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ipwr3Myz-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn6lkvQMt4c
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Jan 9, 2015 22:29
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PT6A posted:And Islamic extremism claims a whole bunch more lives... Boko Haram are scum
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ZenVulgarity posted:Give this man a dollar For posting overly simplistic bullshit? I guess that is what is preferred around here though.
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StandardVC10 posted:Namely, themselves. Nigeria should be richer than the rest of Africa because of its oil money, but its standard of living is pretty close to the rest IIRC. Crazy morons in government who believe vaccines are witch-treatments from the Americans to give people AIDS will do that to you.
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tsa posted:For posting overly simplistic bullshit? I guess that is what is preferred around here though.  (considering what that post was responding to)kustomkarkommando posted:It's actually unironically KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL Reality is getting way too strange. It feels weird to be able to sit back and see videos like this and read stories about what's going on in the world while knowing that there isn't enough interest to find a workable solution to the causes of groups like Boko/ISIS/AQ/etc being able to recruit.
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PT6A posted:And Islamic extremism claims a whole bunch more lives... Bad guys are bad guys, regardless of what religion they follow.
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icantfindaname posted:hrm yes, "Exterminate The Brutes" is a sound, proven, and moral ideology, tell me more If "The Brutes" refers to members of BH well then yeah, exterminate them .
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tsa posted:For posting overly simplistic bullshit? I guess that is what is preferred around here though. you're right, "muslim black men bad, must kill, hulk smash", is much better
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quote:The video shows 16 young men and boys seated in a line. One by one, they are called forward and told to lie down in front of the pit. Five of them are killed in this way; the fate of the remaining detainees is not shown on video, but eyewitness accounts confirmed that nine of them had their throats cut while the others were shot to death... Man, Boko H... Oh, wait Not to excuse Boko Haram or anything but If you think the Nigerian army aren't being brutal enough in dealing with them you must be p. loving crazy
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There's a similar "christian" terrorist organisation (still?) operating in central Africa that I can't recall the name of, I'm not sure what it's about that area (Colonialism) that creates such total murderous monsters.
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quote:Boko Haram fighters are reported to have killed hundreds of people in a renewed assault after capturing a key town and military base in northeast Nigeria at the weekend, local officials have said. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/killed-boko-haram-raids-20151818215251155.html And in other Nigeria news, the oil companies are lowballing the poo poo out of them for an oil spill compensation settlement: quote:Oil giant Royal Dutch Shell has agreed to pay a Nigerian fishing community about $83.5m for the worst oil spill ever suffered in the African nation's southern delta region. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/shell-pay-835m-nigeria-oil-spill-2015173836649846.html
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Pimpmust posted:There's a similar "christian" terrorist organisation (still?) operating in central Africa that I can't recall the name of, I'm not sure what it's about that area (Colonialism) that creates such total murderous monsters. Lords Resistance Army
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Pimpmust posted:There's a similar "christian" terrorist organisation (still?) operating in central Africa that I can't recall the name of, I'm not sure what it's about that area (Colonialism) that creates such total murderous monsters. Lords Resistance Army (LRA). Kony's bunch They are still active but they are a shadow of their former selves, about ~300 members with maybe 3/4 of those being fighters. edit: beaten
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Pimpmust posted:There's a similar "christian" terrorist organisation (still?) operating in central Africa that I can't recall the name of, I'm not sure what it's about that area (Colonialism) that creates such total murderous monsters. Colonialism certainly didn't help, but it didn't create the problems. poo poo's as old as time; bog standard tribalism, only made worse by the modern world.
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stinkles1112 posted:Religion is, as usual, a thin veneer of justification painted over what is, as usual, ethnic and economic strife and petty human drama. It must be seriously comforting, being able to wrap yourself in this kind of intellectual security blanket.
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ReidRansom posted:Colonialism certainly didn't help, but it didn't create the problems. poo poo's as old as time; bog standard tribalism, only made worse by the modern world. Hrm yes colonialism is somehow not responsible for drawing up a country containing roughly equal numbers of muslim hausa and christian yoruba, with distinct cultures and languages The primary conflict in Nigeria is between the Muslim north and the Christian south, and seeing as the country was literally created out of whole cloth by colonial powers I'd say no actually you're completely, totally wrong. Sorry
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Is Boko Haram one of those warbands that get their members addicted to heavy drugs so they can't leave?
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