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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




xcore posted:

- Would they do something awful with V and Kev like showing V not to be cut out for motherhood and accidently dropping/poisoning/burning one of her kids?

I thought they were going this route but I'm hoping they just have a slight role reversal, V spends more time at The Alibi and makes it more profitable because she's a hardass and Kev just keeps being Kev :3:

The highlights of the episode were anything with Kev and V and their twins and with V realising that Kev is a better "mom" I hope they just take it to the logical conclusion that Kev is just better with babies than she is, it's not like that's a terrible thing

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I Love Loosies
Jan 4, 2013


QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Also they were originally going to have triplets but one of them "absorbed" the other one.

Because Kev has a magic dick.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

nickmeister posted:

I think my favorite thing about this show is its threads are always anemic; fewer chances a goon will ruin it with gooniness.

It's the best show that hardly anybody here is watching, and by extension the best thread because hardly anybody is posting in it :v:

nooneofconsequence posted:

Kev and V continue to be the best thing about this show.

Agreed, which is high praise because the show's loving great.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I'm excited to see Mickey's continued development this season. He came out of nowhere to become one of my favorites last year, and beating up the dry cleaner and shouting "MRS. PATEL. COULD YOU PLEASE JERK YOUR HUSBAND OFF ONCE IN A WHILE?" was my favorite moment of this episode.

LazyDivey
Jun 18, 2004

Orange crush momma is a laugh laugh laugh.


xcore posted:

So can we get some predictions of how things are going to turn to poo poo next season? It's all pretty obvious I guess but I want to talk about this show.


- Frank sells the house (is that possible at this point?)

- Debbie's hormones make her do something stupid. Knocked up?



I think Frank's brother/cousin or someone owns the house since the Aunt or whoever officially died.

Emmy Rossum did tease in a interview that someone is going to be preggers this season.

Also you are right about Ian :(

5X06 SynopsisFiona is thrown in to chaos by the return of Jimmy/Jack/Steve, but she must deal with an even larger crises first as Ian, in a full psychotic break, steals Mickey and Svetlana’s baby, Yevgeny, and takes him along on a road trip. Also Fiona gets married for some weird reason in the previous episode D: poo poo :(

LazyDivey fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jan 17, 2015

SnowDog
Oct 26, 2004

General Bort posted:

Because Kev has a magic dick.

I kind of binge-watched S4 recently and I could not stop laughing at that scene. I don't know how they manage to keep it so funny and so loving depressing at the same time without it feeling cheap and manipulative, but they do. And goddamn that scene slayed me.

liltimshady
Sep 6, 2011
I guess even broken, drunken, extremely self-centered clocks are correct once in a while.

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

LazyDivey posted:

Emmy Rossum did tease in a interview that someone is going to be preggers this season.



Kinda hoping it's Lip's new girlfriend this season just cause i like the actress and it'd be nice to see her in more than a few eps, but at the same time...

My money is on the crazy not-quite-gallagher, though. A peripheral-ish character...Fi strikes me as the type that has had enough with kids until she's good and ready, but at the same time.... if the marriage thing is true, then...

Comedy option (actually would probably be the serious sub-plot to the comedy) would be Debbie.

e: the rest of this season looks hella good so far from the episode synopses posted on spoilertv. Kev and V get to do a whole bunch of fun poo poo this season.

e2: just getting around to watching the new ep and just paid enough attention to the credits to catch...does carl just powerslam the mouth wash?

e3: sheila talking about the realtor coming by and just completely soaking sammi is so far the best scene so far.

Dr Jankenstein fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jan 19, 2015

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Great episode. I'm so glad Sammi was bumped to a regular. Sammi vs Sheila is highly entertaining.

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.
I'm really interested to see how Svetlana interacts with everyone and sort of integrates herself in with every one else. Her stuff with Kev and Debbie was great.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Cameron Monaghan could play a great Batman villain.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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FireWorksWell posted:

Cameron Monaghan could play a great Batman villain.

I would be very down for this.

I loved that they went nonviolent with their solution to the Westboro Baptist problem, that was some fantastic poo poo. Especially since if they had gotten violent, it would have backfired. The whole thing with WBC is they try to bait people into assaulting them so they can sue the poo poo out of them. Nonviolent, simple, and classically Ian/Mickey.

This episode was awesome in general. Sheila vs. Sammi is perfect. I loved the entire donor party scene.

QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jan 19, 2015

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

FireWorksWell posted:

Cameron Monaghan could play a great Batman villain.

the boy does disservice ro gingers. everything he plays is "psychotic, but sensitive".

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Svetlana is awesome. I love how this show can make seemingly throwaway characters great.

Nice to see Fiona and Debbie doing some girl bonding.

I like cold bitch Sheila a LOT more then idiot doormat Sheila.

Malpais Legate
Oct 1, 2014

I need more of Svetlana working her hooker-conwoman magic on the Gallaghers. That woman is a blessing to them.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


QuickbreathFinisher posted:

I would be very down for this.

I loved that they went nonviolent with their solution to the Westboro Baptist problem, that was some fantastic poo poo. Especially since if they had gotten violent, it would have backfired. The whole thing with WBC is they try to bait people into assaulting them so they can sue the poo poo out of them. Nonviolent, simple, and classically Ian/Mickey.

This episode was awesome in general. Sheila vs. Sammi is perfect. I loved the entire donor party scene.

The way they pulled it off was fantastic, but something bugs me; did I miss a character saying anything about why Ian, who went AWOL, was attending a military funeral?

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

FireWorksWell posted:

The way they pulled it off was fantastic, but something bugs me; did I miss a character saying anything about why Ian, who went AWOL, was attending a military funeral?

brother in arms. Mickey straight up goes "why the hell we going?" while Ian's getting dressed.

Willing to bet something got cut that was a quick throwaway line that set up how Ian knew about the funeral in the first place though. hell, even a newspaper headline would do it, or show him browsing facebook real fast and come across a reblog or something.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


I know he was Ian's brother in arms, but I thought that the military was actively looking for Ian and I don't think that they'd go "Oh hey, there you are, glad you could make it" if they discovered Ian was there. (Note: I have very little understanding of how military conduct works, so correct me if I'm wrong._

Or did I miss the Gallaghers solving that plot thread?

hepscat
Jan 16, 2005

Avenging Nun
They did not solve that little problem of being AWOL. Last I remember were the MPs that tracked down Lip but took his word for it that he didn't recognize Ian in a photo. After that it's just been hanging.

Svetlana is really great now that they've given her some depth. Ever since her "this is America, Burger King, McDonald's on the same block" speech last season she's been very entertaining.

Johnny Longtorso
Nov 24, 2007
The Man Who Comes In Pieces!
I've come to the realization that all my favorite characters are outside the main Gallagher family: Mickey; Kevin and Veronica; Sheila, Sammi, and Chuckie; and now Svetlana.

And I'm okay with that.

I am glad that they're not going for the "Fiona fucks her boss" storyline again. So far, at least.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

FireWorksWell posted:

I know he was Ian's brother in arms, but I thought that the military was actively looking for Ian and I don't think that they'd go "Oh hey, there you are, glad you could make it" if they discovered Ian was there. (Note: I have very little understanding of how military conduct works, so correct me if I'm wrong._

Or did I miss the Gallaghers solving that plot thread?

Mickey did say something to the effect of "can you at least not wear the uniform since every MP is looking for you?"

Diabolik900 fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jan 20, 2015

liltimshady
Sep 6, 2011

Johnny Longtorso posted:

I've come to the realization that all my favorite characters are outside the main Gallagher family: Mickey; Kevin and Veronica; Sheila, Sammi, and Chuckie; and now Svetlana.

And I'm okay with that.

I am glad that they're not going for the "Fiona fucks her boss" storyline again. So far, at least.

That would've been too easy, Fiona obviously not learning her lesson and all that.

DarkCrawler posted:

I like cold bitch Sheila a LOT more then idiot doormat Sheila.

The best part about this Sheila: No one saw it coming. Even Frank's mom couldn't produce that much hate.

The bit on the priest was epic. A bit of the Gallaghers is rubbing off on Mickey. I didn't even realize how him and Ian have mostly switched roles, it's usually Mickey who's raving to kick someone's rear end.

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

Diabolik900 posted:

Mickey did say something to the effect of "can you at least not where the uniform since every MP is looking for you?"

Yeah, this. I got the impression that Ian knew he was going to get glossed over and that the number of MPs there were A) unlikely to arrest a fellow soldier at a funeral (still dumb, but not that dumb) and B) unlikely to know who he is. He's still wanted, but he figured he could get away with it. And he did.

I definitely think that Kev looks way way better with the shaved head. I get why V is pissed that he cut it, but he looks so much better its ridiculous. Svetlana is quickly rising on my "oh my god i love her" list. the "I rent uterus like youth hostel" line had me waking up the roommates i was laughing so hard.

And Mickey is definitely way smarter than he lets on. He knew that Ian's wanted, and wanted to go the nonviolent route since he knew it would get them nowhere but in deep poo poo.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Diabolik900 posted:

Mickey did say something to the effect of "can you at least not where the uniform since every MP is looking for you?"

Okay, I missed that line. It's strange that Ian's bipolar disorder allows for him (and thus the audience) to be able to just ignore such glaring plotholes like that, with him being so reckless this season. I could see the MPs coming back in a few episodes, the writers usually know what they're doing.

liltimshady posted:

The bit on the priest was epic. A bit of the Gallaghers is rubbing off on Mickey. I didn't even realize how him and Ian have mostly switched roles, it's usually Mickey who's raving to kick someone's rear end.

While the Gallaghers definitely had an influence, I think that working with Kev in the pimp business actually taught him to keep a cool, logical train of thought. This show develops characters in the best possible way.

FireWorksWell fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 20, 2015

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

AA is for Quitters posted:

I definitely think that Kev looks way way better with the shaved head. I get why V is pissed that he cut it, but he looks so much better its ridiculous. Svetlana is quickly rising on my "oh my god i love her" list. the "I rent uterus like youth hostel" line had me waking up the roommates i was laughing so hard.

I too love Svetlana. Even her hardass treatment last season to bring Mickey in to line was gold (and also a big part of Mickey's character developing). The only thing that makes me unsure about liking her is the whole "Russian whore stereotype" thing. Maybe they do all act like that, but I can't help but feel I'm falling for cheap laughs from a racist sterotype doing broad comedy.

FireWorksWell posted:

Okay, I missed that line. It's strange that Ian's bipolar disorder allows for him (and thus the audience) to be able to just ignore such glaring plotholes like that, with him being so reckless this season. I could see the MPs coming back in a few episodes, the writers usually know what they're doing.

I think that will be the end of the storyline. I too, know nothing about military procedure, but surely there are not that many MP's and surely an organisation like is so full of red tape bullshit that Ian has now just fallen through the cracks. They looked for him, didn't find him, crossed him off the list and moved on with their lives.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Svetlana is reminding me of Cici's Russian model friend in New Girl. She comes from a completely different culture and she's pretty loose with talking about what she talks about. It's not really an issue because it leads to great lines like the uterus one

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.
I get the impression that Svetlana is pretty smart or clever in her own way though, so I mean she gets a couple of laughs in certainly, but I don't think they play her for laughs anymore. Mickey's weird family is growing on me.

Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

Sober posted:

Mickey's weird family is growing on me.

Same here.

I really hope Mandy is able to ditch Kenyatta this season.

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
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Svetlana is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters; I hope we see a lot of her this season. Also, can we just give All The Awards to Emmy Rossum and Joan Cusack? Joan is loving magic. At first I hated Sammi but seeing her and Sheila play off of each other is fabulous. Chuckie owns, too.

The Duke
May 19, 2004

The Angel from my Nightmare

Kev's long hair was glorious, and I'm sad that he shaved his head.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

AA is for Quitters posted:

And Mickey is definitely way smarter than he lets on. He knew that Ian's wanted, and wanted to go the nonviolent route since he knew it would get them nowhere but in deep poo poo.

Mickey's kind of always been the clever, cool-headed criminal, but he's really come into his own since becoming a pimp and father and finally coming out. He's street-smart, to the point where I could see him becoming some kind of minor crime kingpin. He already has a gang of guys at his beck and call who'll go bust heads or kill somebody if Mickey asks.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


King Vidiot posted:

Mickey's kind of always been the clever, cool-headed criminal, but he's really come into his own since becoming a pimp and father and finally coming out. He's street-smart, to the point where I could see him becoming some kind of minor crime kingpin. He already has a gang of guys at his beck and call who'll go bust heads or kill somebody if Mickey asks.

This right here is one of the reasons why I want to see how long they'll keep Shameless running. In the show's beginning the show was presented through different points of view. We saw how Frank and the three elder Gallaghers lived an average day, with Jimmy/Steve and Kev and Veronica giving us side stories. A few episodes later, Sheila and Karen's lives were shown more often. Presently, we now have the Milkovich family and Svetlana, Sammi, Carl and Debbie; all of these characters are given more life in our eyes through ambitions and backstories. We get new plot threads with more potential, and Mickey becoming a minor/major crime lord sounds like a really great plot.

I really hope we start getting scenes from Tommy's point of view.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




it's things like that that I enjoy that these episodes are 50 minutes long instead of 42, those extra 8 minutes allow for more breathing room with a bigger cast. Now if only we had more than 11 episodes a season, what with having more people and more stories to cover.


I find it funny that Lip, having gone a whole year of having a legit job at College with his work study (or whatever it was called) is now surprised that he, a no-qualifications labourer, can't drive a forklift and has his cellphone confiscated because he answered a text IN FRONT OF HIS BOSS. That and he didn't bring gloves to work, I felt no sympathy for his disposition at the end of a hard day because he brought aaaaaaallllllllll of that on himself. But then I've never been a fan of Lip so I'll admit I relished watching him get taken down some pegs.

But speaking of other characters will Fiona actually get in deep poo poo for taking her monitor off by herself? Sure in her mind her time was done but according to the government her time is done when an official person removes her bracelet and Fiona fills out some forms. Over/under that next week she is faced with a breach of probation or something similar?

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Do construction jobs not provide gloves? I've never worked construction but I assumed that stuff and the hard hats would be provided.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




kinda depends on how nice the company you're working for is. It's usually a range from "gently caress you, buy your own poo poo" to "we'll pay for all of your certificates on top of your PPE". Based off of how Lip's interview went it's pretty obvious where his employer lies on that scale :v:

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

Aces High posted:

But speaking of other characters will Fiona actually get in deep poo poo for taking her monitor off by herself? Sure in her mind her time was done but according to the government her time is done when an official person removes her bracelet and Fiona fills out some forms. Over/under that next week she is faced with a breach of probation or something similar?

As someone who was on a different model ankle monitor - once you pop em off, they're not that hard to pop back in. So presumably she pops it back on and walks into the probation office the next day.

There's a chance that she'd get busted for the monitor obviously staying in one place if its a GPS one.

I really hope they wind up going somewhere with these visual metaphors of Frank as Jesus they've been teasing with. The laid out on the table naked end of last episode, him standing in the sun at the end of this episode, i can't help but think they're doing something with it.

Malpais Legate
Oct 1, 2014

Frank is going to be the savior of the ghetto, obviously. He's already preaching against the sins of gentrification.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Not sure if anyone ever mentioned it, but the show was already renewed for next year right after the premiere.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Deadpool posted:

Not sure if anyone ever mentioned it, but the show was already renewed for next year right after the premiere.

I did, but no one noticed.

:(

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




DarkCrawler posted:

Nice to see Fiona and Debbie doing some girl bonding.

Yes and no. It was great seeing them having fun, but it wasn't a good thing of course. Fiona realizing she was just perpetuating the cycle was a great piece of acting, that she really does draw chaos in and now she has dragged Debs-- who had an amazing time with her cool older sister-- into it.

Loving this season so far.

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