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So basically someone will take money from people as heinously unfit as me and try to get me up the mountain. I know people talk about mountain madness and altitude sickness, but one really common theme I see when these documentaries roll around is that people just can't turn back, or even worse, they reach the top and stay there too long. How the gently caress do these guides not just say "If you don't turn around now, you will die and your corpse will become an internet meme"? Like get to the top, take a few photos, set a timer, do something, whatever. On that note, gently caress K2. If mountain climbing was a vidya game, K2 would be the boss that you defeat, only for it to come back to life and kill you as you walk away. My worst nightmare consists of being on the summit of K2 and the panic of knowing I have to get down.
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I watched the documentary last night, and holy poo poo, that adventure company sounds awesome. It's interesting though watching people do this, as someone who wants to take up club car racing later in life. Even with all the safety tech and modifications you have to make to race even at a club level, I would still feel slightly irresponsible doing it if I had a wife, kids etc. It's kind of spectacular watching people with no mountaineering experience decide they'll just jump right in and try to summit the tallest mountain in the world with its documented crowding issues and the death zone. LIke I feel I would be more prepared to climb Everest at the moment than Yellowjacket ever was just because I've read this thread in GBS.
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Jan 13, 2015 22:48
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I'm not sure how credible this is, but does make for interesting reading: http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2014/12/15/everest-2014-cost-climb-everest/
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Jan 13, 2015 23:45
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down n out posted:So, has everest been dumbed down by so many sherpas and ropes that it's basically extreme hiking? That Canadian lady looked like she was in slow motion even on the practice climbs and she still managed to summit. Extreme hiking where you are dying every second you spend past a certain height, yea.
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Jan 14, 2015 01:36
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redreader posted:If you want to climb a mountain that's doable without anything other than hiking boots, in about 45 minutes or so (2+ hours from sea level? maybe 15 mins from not sea level if you run up, as some people I know can do?) but is MORE DEADLY THAN EVEREST, go to Cape Town and climb table mountain. It's killed more people than everest. cool link but i did learn this from the comments quote:There is nothing "misleading" about 225 deaths.... Vs everest, the handful of people heading to everest is taking a SUBSTANTIALLY bugger risk being there; and its not just summit attempts. The obvious message here is, just because you can see the city lights and hundreds of other people does not make it safe. I bet Canadian flag woman didn't even take lube.
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Jan 16, 2015 01:17
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I can get on board with the old-school "mountains are gods", cause K2 clearly requires blood sacrifice. One day one of these mountain gods is going to desire more souls than can fit on the slopes and it's going to come to a city and start killing off middle-management coffee-book-photo-album charity fundraising types who do things solely to raise awareness of the fact they're raising awareness who end up paying squillions to try and climb these peaks. We have to keep sending as many morons as possible to appease them. The poo poo thing is that K2 kills off actual mountaineers too but apparently there's so shortage of rear end in a top hat mountaineers either.
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Feb 27, 2015 20:37
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I'm going to say everyone as well, but only because Everest erupts. (Yes i know it's not a volcano)
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Mar 12, 2015 22:12
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Awesome. I'm glad the Sherpas are exempt for me, I wouldn't put it past them to be immune to the effects of lava and just not know it yet.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:11
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Literally Kermit posted:Hot avalanche Everest Porno kickstarter required
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Mar 14, 2015 22:41
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Can the OP please correct the date of the first summit to 1953, not 1952?
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Mar 15, 2015 23:47
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There aren't any really huge mountains in NZ (at least in the North Island) with the exception of Taranaki and Ruapehu. Ruapehu seems to be rated as an 'experienced alpine climb' so I might take some time off over summer and check out some of the lower reaches of the climb and just see what it's like a couple of hundred metres above the car park, how quickly weather changes, etc. Given that Ruapehu is also one of our most active volcanoes, I have no desire to go anywhere near the top.
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Mar 23, 2015 08:24
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Picnic Princess posted:If you have the skill. Don't be like the glory-hungry rich douchebags on Everest. They're the worst. No amount of money can out-weigh the risk undertaken by inexperienced scumbuckets just looking for a new way to stroke their ego. There's a difference between people like them and people like me. No one should ever be like Canadian lady, photoshopping themselves into a wheelchair accessible alpine lake scene to raise funds for a suicide mission. There's a difference between "I'M GOING TO CLIMB EVEREST" and "I love to climb mountains and Everest is the tallest so I'm going to do it!" Yea I'm in no way a mountaineer and it's a proper alpine trail. I'm the kind of person who puts sleeping bags in the car when I visit the ski fields for a quick half hour visit just in case I get stuck so I'm paranoid about any worst case scenario. The summit is only something I'd ever do in summer and I'd be taking crampons and ice axes (and I'd have to learn how to use them first before I thought about going all the way up). I'm going to recon the hell out the lower part too, just to get an idea of the terrain involved and make sure I've got the best footwear etc. Also, re: the volcano bit, Ruapehu's next door neighbour Ngauruhoe (which goons will recognise as Mt Doom from Lord of the Rings) had its alert status updated from a 0 to a 1, which is 'Minor volcanic unrest' just a few hours ago. There's three main peaks the plateau, Ruapehu, Ngauruhoe and Tongariro. The latter has a really well known alpine trek called the Tongariro Crossing, which most people do in summer but it gets intensely harder if you do it in winter. The fun bit is they're all active volcanoes that are within kilometres of each other. This is what Ngauruhoe looks like when it goes up:  Here's some footage from Ruapehu's 1995 Eruptions (the second one has been used as stock volcano eruption SFX in heaps of poo poo). If you want an idea of what it's like to be on it when it goes up, check out from 1m on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8W_sGYAQlc And here's Tongariro farting sharting itself from one of the vents on the side of the mountain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ7Jg96OB9M But if all that is a bit much, there's lots of touristy relaxing poo poo at nearby lake Taupo.... quote:Lake Taupo, in the centre of New Zealand’s North Island, is the caldera of a large rhyolitic volcano. This huge volcano has produced two of the world’s most violent eruptions in geologically recent times. Literally covered the country in hundreds of metres of rock and ash. It's a great place for a holiday though. I feel like I should also say that even though the odds of anything volcanic happening in my relatively short life (at least in geological terms) I've always found this poo poo fascinating - I live on the side of an old volcanic cone in a city with about 50 known extinct volcanoes and in a country where the middle bit is constantly at risk of exploding and the bottom bit wants to shake everyone into the ocean. It's pretty awesome really. Apologies for the volcano chat, but climbing season hasn't begun and my bet was on Everest erupting so I feel this is somewhat relevant. Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 09:27
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Yea that photo alone does a better job of selling the incredible "gently caress humans, you don't belong here" aspect of the serac that The Summit did.
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Mar 31, 2015 10:07
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The great thing is that it doesn't ultimately matter who climbed Everest first - either way it was done by proper explorers in the most colonial sense of the word, be it Mallory or Hillary.
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Apr 8, 2015 20:51
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tentative8e8op posted:Oh my god, when I heard K2 had strong winds I never imagined that. Even if that's supposed to be in kilometers an hour(?), she pretty much faced a sustained F4 tornado while on K2's cliffs. Well she didn't reaallllllllly sustain it if she got blown off, did she?
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Apr 9, 2015 06:40
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gohuskies posted:Update from Everest base camp: I'm quietly confident my death pool call was a good one.
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Apr 11, 2015 01:38
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Will more helicopters mean more people dropping dead because they haven't acclimatized properly?
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Apr 15, 2015 06:08
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Jonad posted:The choppers would be carrying gear, not climbers. Unless somebody decides to get really stupid. Yea, the article said stuff like that happens extremely rarely. I wonder if there's any elevated risk from skipping straight to Base Camp in one though.
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Apr 15, 2015 10:49
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Zo posted:Some dumbass high school drove a busload of kids to base camp and one of the dumbass kids died so yeah, there is. Didn't do enough pre-expedition photoshopping to prepare, obviously.
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Apr 15, 2015 11:10
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How badly would this gently caress with the ice fall?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:25
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splifyphus posted:What ice fall? Khumbu. It's a loving nightmare at the best of times, apparently.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:35
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splifyphus posted:It was a bad joke - that tweet says the ice fall route has been destroyed. Ah, couldn't get the tweet to load. This is going to get so much worse before I wake up tomorrow.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:46
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This is one of the better threads in GBS so please don't gently caress it up.
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Apr 25, 2015 20:43
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The Christchurch quake spawned a more damaging aftershock months later. That icefall won't be stable (relatively speaking) for ages.
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Apr 26, 2015 03:20
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JFairfax posted:Do I even want to know what the gently caress I am looking at? Reverse googling suggest it's a maple syrup popsicle.
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Apr 26, 2015 04:08
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lenoon posted:Waiting to hear back about my brother in law. Was at base camp. Probably isn't now. Two kids at home, selfish bastard. Was he doing the trek or a climb?
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Apr 27, 2015 10:27
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Those of you looking to donate to something with a mountaineering link should check out The Himalayan Trust. It was founded by Sir Edmund Hillary and they've been doing poo poo like building schools in Nepal for decades. They have an earthquake appeal but they also do good poo poo on a day-to-day basis as well.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:19
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Rolling over two years of permits would basically mean they're unable to sell anymore next year.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:09
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Cojawfee posted:Pike's Peak is one of the most famous rally courses. It was - it's lost a lot of its traditional challenge after they paved the whole thing. I mean it still gets some pretty cool entries and the run is a lot faster but the magic is kind of gone.
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May 3, 2015 07:23
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The French national rugby team were supposedly on amphetamines for a game where the captain of the All Blacks got his scrotum ripped open. They stapled it back together and he kept playing. "Roughly 20 minutes into the match, he was caught at the bottom of a rather aggressive ruck, and an errant French boot found its way into Shelford's groin, somehow ripping his scrotum and leaving one testicle hanging free. He also lost four teeth in the process. Incredibly, after discovering the injury to his scrotum, he calmly asked the physio to stitch up the tear and returned to the field before a blow to his head left him concussed. He was substituted and watched the remainder of the game from the grandstand where he witnessed the All Blacks lose 16–3. To this day Shelford has no memory of the game." Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 09:16 on May 10, 2015 |
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May 10, 2015 09:14
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I Greyhound posted:Post your favorite geological event you wish you could have seen. Mine would be the collapse of Mt Manzama to firm the Crater Lake caldera. The collapse of Taupo. Which, btw, is getting near overdue for some sort of minor tantrum.
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May 13, 2015 22:02
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The TVZ is currently having a bit of an episode - no localised shaking, it's a bit all over the place. This poo poo happens pretty often and doesn't lead to any volcanic activity - if it happens and the lakeshore swells/the ground starts to lift, then we might have a problem. It's also worth remembering that there was localised tremors at Mt Doom and Ruapehu in the last month and nothing happened. Anyway, three days ago they were on the West side of Ruapehu. The last two days have been mostly on the South Western side of Lake Taupo. This station seems to be picking up a lot of them. I can't rehost it or hotlink it because it's updated every four minutes - if you refresh the page you'll get the most recent readings. It reads from right to left, bottom to top. http://images.geonet.org.nz/volcano/drums/latest/katz-seismic-drum.png
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May 14, 2015 03:03
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Going to check out the Central North Island range, including some two to three hour walks around Mt Ruapehu. Hopefully it won't decide to burp while I'm standing on it.
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May 28, 2015 08:51
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Jaguars! posted:If you're an experienced tramper, do Mt Taranaki in the summer. It's awesome. Awesome. I'm keen to try Ngauruhoe in summer as and I've already filled my winter schedule with St Bathans and Ophir on the Central Otago Rail Trail. Not doing the ride, just those two towns probably.
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The New Zealand accents in this are surprisingly uncringeworthy. Not great, but at least they haven't gone for the 'deep south' NZ accent which makes Kiwis all sound like high country farmers. Plus I guess you could make the argument that someone like Rob Hall who spent his life around international travelers would have picked up some other inflections here and there.
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