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somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I really should watch the drat thing myself and form my own opinion (rather than get reactions from the anti-CA crowd via Twitter like I did), but I'm not in the mood. The only thing I want to say is that I've seen the word "scam" thrown around, but I think that's the wrong word. Given what Lupa has said about the need to constantly refilm this thing, and the lack of updates via the crowdfunding website, and just the stories of how poorly run the whole thing is, I think "incompetence" is a better fit. And what really gets me is how simple some of this stuff would be to address. COMMUNICATION guys; seriously, they could have avoided so much poo poo if they had just talked to their producers/employees regularly, and we might not see some of the producers turning so sour on the whole thing. It's disappointing and frustrating that the Walkers/Michaud can't get the fundamentals right.

Now for some new poo poo. I've been on a "magic special" kick for a while. While going through some of the David Copperfield TV specials, I found this guy's channel of reviews of magic specials:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?maxwellsmagicreviews

They aren't very good. It's a lot of "play the clip (in its entirety in some cases!) , cut to reviewer making a comment, repeat". I think you could do so much more with these specials--Copperfield had at least 15 TV specials across three decades, and it would be fascinating to trace his evolution as a magician/performer. Maybe I should be the one doing it, rather than waiting for someone else to. I could probably put in a better effort than Maxwell here :P.

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somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
The Flame-Cheap Trick for me. A hair ballad. A poo poo genre for a poo poo poster I suppose.

Not gonna lie, it seems like Linkara is putting some effort into his fanfic/movie. It's amazing what you can do when there are characters that are not just "reviewer in a new hat" and are played by actual other people. It makes this story about a comic reviewer saving the Universe from extradimensional gods with his gun powered by a dead girls soul more authentic, don't you think?

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Max Wilco posted:

An indie paper crossword where one of the questions pertains to a angry YouTube review of an Adam Sandler comedy film about video games which was loosely based on a short film. :pwn:

What was the clue/answer?

Nothing too elaborate: [2015 Adam Sandler movie that got an epic ten-minute review/rant from "MovieBob Reviews" on YouTube] with the answer PIXELS. Your opinion on the word "epic" may vary. It was part of a "worst of 2015" theme he did.

Not the first time I've seen a nerd culture reference in an indie crossword either. The AV Club Crossword had references to Anita Sarkeesian a while back, and Adam Baldwin in Gamer Gate context within the last year. One of the ways they can keep things current compared to the New York Times.

I really just need to get a crossword/puzzle thread going here. Would PYF be appropriate, or would that fall under Games?

EDIT: Beaten to the punch. Though if you want some thread content,check out crossword reviewers Rex Parker and Amy Reynaldo.

somekindofguy fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 15, 2016

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I can't believe these copyright bots may control the fate of these reviewer's channels!

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Jay O posted:

For somebody who is easily deeply upset by even seeing his face or hearing his voice ala Lupa's feelings on Doug Walker, how many of the women (+ me) that he went out of his way to try and ruin the lives of does that tl;dr include? I hope you can understand why I wouldn't want to watch that video otherwise.

Side note:


Guy literally had dozens of rape and death threats sent to me daily because I had a totally normal breakup with some guy he wasn't even close with, and on top of that made up a completely ludicrous story about me "stealing a house" (???) that I still don't understand how anyone believes it or thinks it could possibly make sense with the facts of the situation. (I fled the state, I sure as hell wasn't stealing any houses located there.) But boy oh boy do awful people still tweet at me with that story!
Jason did actually mention you explicitly, and even acknowledged you as Jake. Women...not so much? He said it was a long list of people he needed to apologize to, but he only called out a few people specifically.

As for that story you mention, I know a few of the facts and I have to wonder how the hell it got twisted into "stealing a house". I feel sorry for anyone who has had to deal with Jason's fanbase, and still does. Same with the rabid members of the CA fanbase.

Burn all Fandom while we're at it.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Jay O posted:

I'm not offended by you at all! Just Lordkat. I'm glad other people watch the video and have reactions to it so I don't have to.

So are we all the Nostalgia Critic now? I don't know if I'd be up for that.


Jay O posted:

So of all the dozens upon dozens of women he wronged (stories like mine from TGWTG, being a part of Gamergate, and even literally molesting a woman on camera), the only "woman" he bothered to apologize to is the one he found out was a man. Go gently caress yourself, Jason.

My story got twisted into "stealing a house" because Jason's fanbase wanted to ruin a woman's life, no matter what she had done. I also got sent rape threats and "jokes" endlessly after Spoony made a rape joke about me that I never even responded to, apart from asking him if he was okay. Thousands of guys just wanna see women destroyed. They do not need a reason.

By the way, looking into this situation a little more? Jason has a new real-world job now. He made that video as a first step to try and clean up his image because if his employer ever searches his name, he's absolutely hosed. So yeah. Get hosed, LordKat. You don't get to say "I'm sorry!" and win a no-consequences award.

I really have to wonder how many people who get into a dogpile don't think of the targets as actual people. Or maybe they think of them as people, but distort what they actually say or do to justify what they are doing as right. I'd guess that people don't see what they are doing as wrong ("It's not harassment, it's criticism!") or as hurtful, and the distance allowed by the internet makes it easier to do. There's probably a whole bunch of studies on this sort of thing, or there will be in the near future.

Not to mention the effect of having a group of people around you on your individual behavior. Video games themselves might not have direct influence on behavior, but I'd have to wonder what effects the community around video games would have, good and bad. Again, probably already studies or there will be studies in the future.

Still Jake, I want to thank you and Zac; your writing on geek culture and how people conflate criticism of something they like with criticism of themselves helped me to think about how I might do that, and how to separate the two. Not to mention how you guys and the Chez Apocalypse crew helped get me more aware of social justice issues and how not to be a shithead online.

CONTENT:

So I was on a magic special binge last year, especially when it came to the David Copperfield TV specials. I started reading up on David in general and how the specials were put together, and I learned a bit about the team that helped Copperfield pull off his illusions. And lo and behold, a few weeks ago I found out Shark Jumping did an episode on them:

HOHO MAGIC (Warning: Doug face in the first couple of minutes)

They basically argue that most of the specials were solid, and that the "shark jumping" point came with his last special, Tornado of Fire, and the rise of street magicians David Blaine and Criss Angel. The special has a bunch of moments where a 40 year-old magician tries to be hip, a few "magic on the street" segments, and a finale where Copperfield risks his life by standing in the center of the titular (and admittedly very dangerous looking) tornado of fire. For about ten seconds. MAGIC~

So yeah, he was definitely aping Blaine's style with the special. It wasn't all terrible though; the "Portal" illusion he does at the end where he and an audience member "teleport" to Hawaii was cool. And it didn't really hurt him too much in the end; he stopped for a while, bought a chain of islands in the Bahamas, and he's still apparently performing in Vegas to this day. He's not in the public eye as much, but he shows up on occasion.

There's a little bit of interesting stuff about where the illusions came from, including how many were originally done by Doug Henning. I'd like to see someone approach magic specials with an eye towards presentation and how it's all put together along with entertainment value, but unfortunately all we really have is this guy. :effort: at its finest. This other guy, Alexo does it better at least, but there's only the one. I need more dammit.

Sorry for the magic :spergin: , but it's nice to see a bit of a resurgence with Penn and Teller: Fool Us on the air.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

8-Bit Scholar posted:

I really don't understand how anyone can get emotionally invested over LordKat in the slightest. What are you mad about? Really, what on earth could be making you feel genuine anger for a man who you will likely never meet and whose actions and deeds do nothing to affect you? Like, if you think he's a jerk, don't watch his videos. Seems strange that every time one of these critics upsets the thread, it's all "what a lovely human being" "what a loving sociopath" and other such nonsense. Get a grip.

Hi Jason.

Seriously though, his actions have actually caused people who post here problems, both directly and through his fanbase. Read the posts Jay O made a few pages back for an example. And it's less anger for him and more anger at him.

And it's not just him either, there's at least a few people who try to make poo poo for Internet critics just because they "go full SJW" or something. Not to mention the people who obsess over every action someone makes, looking for the smallest gently caress up to try and blast them over. It's creepy as hell.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Wait you're saying people are obsessing over tiny actions made by people who they only know through Internet videos? That sounds ludicrous. Dangerous even. Glad none of that happens in THIS thread!

Well, I'd counter that LK's actions were more than tiny. I can't speak for the Spoonywatch stuff or other critics though.

Also, love the robocop filter.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
@Scholar:

In the past, LK has said lovely things to people, like telling Spoony to kill himself on his livestream. Not to his face, but there is video of him saying it. He has also come down on people because of their "SJWness", like Lindsay Ellis, Toddintheshadows, Jay O (who posts in this thread), and a few people involved in Gamergate. Now, he may have engaged these people directly on Twitter, and this by itself might not seem like much.

However, his fans and followers may then follow his lead, and come down on these people as well, leading to a bunch of harassment and other poo poo. You would have to talk to the people who got harassed to get the full story, but Jay O gave an example a few pages back in this thread. I haven't heard if any of this has escalated into physical incidents, but LK has made threats to go to cons with a few of these critics he doesn't like. Nothing seems to have been followed through on yet, but you never know.

Not to mention there is video of the incident with the girl around. I can't comment on what actually happens in it, but she apparently tells it differently, and LK had her on the show to give her side of the story. I have not seen either, and I do not plan to.

Apologies for the lack of direct links, but mobile is not fun for url hunting.

Here's hoping I don't get accused of being obsessive myself, eh :P

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Did you all know that if you post Ishtar to try and bring the thread back from a derail, you're just as terrible as the people who derailed in the first place?

JUST. AS. TERRIBLE.

Will post content later maybe.

CONTENT EDIT:

I saw this guy via the anti-food porn thread. He reviews MRES from around the world. Interesting if you want to see how military people get fed in the toughest of conditions. He's also from NZ.

Speaking of NZ, anyone heard from Suede lately? He still reviewing, or is he just living the quiet Mormon life?

somekindofguy fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 8, 2016

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

lornekates posted:

lolnope

The Game Show isn't on their "premium" channel. Mainly because the gameshow isn't anywhere, because as far as I can tell, it's dead. Even if it was, still NOPE! Buy a subscription.

Revisiting the Indiegogo is still hilarious, and moreso each time:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/channel-awesome-s-new-shows-and-more

- Someone actually shelled out $6500 to be in an NC episode. I have no idea if this was ever fulfilled. It still shocks me every time I revisit that page. I think my brain actively refuses to index that face.

- New fun since I last checked: One of the perks is a hand-drawn sketch from Doug. For $250. Keep in mind they held a contest for full-color, Drew Struzan style artwork. And it was for exposure. Or $100 or something equally insulting. But a sketch-- something most artists will do fast and for free at conventions-- $250. See, artists should be paid for their artwork...

For once, they did actually fulfill something they said they would with the $6500 guy. I think it was the Man of Steel episode a while back. Not sure about the pictures though. I honestly haven't watched NC in forever though, so maybe I should back away before we get another post asking if Doug likes trains.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
It seems like the "I don't want to see this movie" thing James said is getting lumped it with the more virulent "robocops ruined my childhood" response from the "full gamer" circles. I didn't really get that was his reason from the video, but the large, really negative response that came before set the tone/framework, mostly good/bad.

It's honestly not going to affect me whether or nor he sees the film, and I haven't made any plans to go see it myself. Lack of attachment to the franchise I think. But drat, the firestorm surrounding it is hard to look away from.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

I'm going to second this video. The ending may hit a little close to home, but it's a good and worthwhile message. The whole "vile heart" thing he talks about seems to be in a lot of places these days, and we need to remember that it doesn't have to be the only way. This poo poo exists, and it can be draining or maddening or depressing, but there are ways to make things better for others, from the personal to the political. Thanks for sharing poparena.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Is it time for a Doug Walker sucks/FreeBrad tug? Yay, my favorite part of the thread. I wonder what will win out, the love of Alison and Brad's work or the hate of Doug and Rob's.

Are there any reviewers of gas out there?

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
How does the thread feel about boyhood, asking for a friend

Also, there's a Prank Reviewer on YouTube who appears to expose fake pranks: https://m.youtube.com/user/ThePrankReviewer

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I wonder if Plinkett has any opinions on :gas:

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

MonsieurChoc posted:

I wanted to make a joke about Allison moving to Canada now, but she's released a nice video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJc_gKuFsoU

And let's just appreciate that.

loving hell, there's always some MAGA shitposting among the majority of "thank you for this, I needed it". Never read the comments folks.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I'm contemplating whether or not I should post this long but relevant Reddit scrawl in this thread, but it may be more appropriate for IOSM.I'll just link it for those who are interested.

This is the internet review thread so let me review 2016; it was ASSTASTIC.

somekindofguy fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Nov 20, 2016

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Has the word degenerate been thrown around on this thread yet

If not, good, we should limit its use to describing codons

Speaking of old news, hardcore kid is still reviewing poo poo

Is it 2011 again :allears:

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Even if Ethan meant well and is not a heel (haven't really watched his videos, just heard the buzz), it might stoke the fires/egos of people with worse opinions and actual assholes. Look how many comments you get when someone like Jontron makes a controversial remark that praise him for speaking THE TRUTH. They have an effect on some of their audience, like it or not.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I was going to make a crack about how we've gone from the Final Solution to the Last Measure by this point, but I just realized the choice of name was likely intentional. GNAA trolling me years after the fact.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Hey folks, you ready for some more Intellectual Dishonesty from Contrapoints? Because he's got a video out about his mixed feelings towards Richard Spencer getting punched.

That's some good degeneracy right there.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Did you know that Ishtar took 12 years to control the fate of the Middle East?

Did you also know that these forums are a cage and you can't escape the degeneracy???

Didyoualsoknowgayimmigrantwithablackboyfriendgayimmigrantwithablackboyfriendgayimmigrantwithabalckboyfriendrealracistrealracistrealracistrealracist

Why do I keep seeing spots

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Here's hoping a bunch of internet obsessives don't start giving you poo poo Lindsay over your posting. That takes some guts to publicly unmask yourself like that. The Rent video was interesting too, so thanks for that.

I know I lurk more than I post, but it has been interesting getting a little more into leftist viewpoints through a couple of the people posted here. Slowly dunking myself into degeneracy.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
But he targeted gamers. Gamers.

Though I think people tried to get him arrested or something, or maybe reported him to the authorities. Because if there was porn, SJWS did it to shut down the site.

I know this because apparently I like to hurt my brain. Don't do drama folks.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I dunno how true it is. I know he didn't get arrested for whatever he did. Or at least I think KiA would endlessly crow about it. Sorry to say I don't have much more than that at the moment.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Wow, the gargoyle thing sure gets your goat huh

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Guess he couldn't handle being a Narrative Heretic, eh

Too much SJW degeneracy for the horror reviewer?

Content: Someone did a meta-analysis of Sword Art Online reviews oh god why

somekindofguy fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Feb 20, 2017

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Uh... I just watched the Homer Badman video and that's not what he said at all? His point was that the media rarely gives you the full truth on celebrity scandals, and that as a result, you should generally wait for a situation to play out and for all the facts to be public before you decide whether someone's guilty. And also that treating every not-guilty verdict as a failure of the justice system is absolutely loving nuts.

There are ways in which his point doesn't hold up, but... even being deliberately uncharitable towards his take on the episode, he just seems ill-informed, not malicious?

Unforunately, the whole "wait and see" thing sometimes gets applied to cases of rape or sexual assault, and may occasionally be used by people who think those goddamn whores women make up accusations to ruin a man's life. That might not be Enter's stance, but heels might read it that way. Just look up a clip of Homer Badman and I guarantee you there will be some comment about how the Simpsons predicted SJWs or some crap.

somekindofguy fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 22, 2017

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Jack Gladney posted:

Why did you start? Like, what did those words signify to you before you were more properly socialized?

In the chans, "-fag" tends to get appended to a lot of things much like a suffix, and it's pretty much a catch-all insult. "Jew" is a similar thing (I think? Didn't see it as much around my lurking days several years back). The whole "happy merchant" thing was based on a stereotypical cartoon of a Jewish man that predates /pol/ and the alt-right by several years.

Short version: Likely chan culture normalizing those sorts of words.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Jesus Bro? Isn' that the movie with Dou--Duh--DuhagGgghhh *vomits up lunch*

Isn't that the movie with Train Man in it?

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

watho posted:

This is the kind of post you'd see on YouTube in 2012 about Justin Bieber

Ah, simpler times. Somebody would have taken a jab at Dog sooner or later, might as well be now and in a low-effort style.

As for content, I don't have a new review or something to offer right now, so does anyone know any good, non-Todd music reviewers? I can't watch Todd ever since he targETED GAMERS THAT GODDAMN CUCK

sarcasm

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Why you gotta bring the politics up man???? It's tour fault, now I gotta spend the rest of my Sunday calling you all degenerates.

You all did this to yourself thread!!! You just couldn't keep your mouth shut and let it be WHY????

---t. Fuckwit

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Hey hey hey

Did you kjow....
Todd targeted gamers.....


And was in Crash override and diced gamers?????? Gamers???????

And he dragged out (((justins))) corpse to also target GAMERS?

And he Hass the gall, that SJW cuck, to complain about Youtub???? When he tried to CENSOR IT????

Reap what you sew Cuck in the shadows??

Because you committed the S I N of targeting gamers. Delete your account or we will find u SJW slime...!

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
No, but you see Ethan is being completely honest about his failings, unlike those """journalists""" who continue to write hit pieces against Felix with nary a retraction. PBUE.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
And wow, now we have a loving gaslighter and a guy who posted CP in the thread, wowwwwwww.

Why does it seem all the anti-gamer people have these skeletons in their closets, hmmmmmm?????

And all while they play Victim and continue to denigrate gamers. All we wanted was objectivity. All we wanted was to play the vidya. All we wanted was to keep politics out.

And what do We get??? Spat on. Called dead. Called babies.

Look at you now, SJWs. Look where you are now. We got Trump, people fighting your PC bullshit, and a generation of kids waking up against your diversity claptrap. And the worst part? You all did it to yourself. Not the mean gamers, not Milo, not Jontron, but YOU. Because you all tried to take the moral high ground when you have so much of your own poo poo. You make us sick.

Nex time you get triggered by Trump and he comes for your fee-fees, don't expect sympathy from us. You made your bed, now lie in it :^)

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

BigRed0427 posted:

Ironic or no, please stop. It's annoying and makes no sense.

Tell that to Ian Miles Cheong, Dead Horse Interchangeable and Kotaku in Action :colbert:

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
So. More annoying and tryhard than funny. Got it. That sort of poo poo is in the wild though, and there are people who believe it unironically. People were still bringing up the CON poo poo a few weeks ago (mombot and IAC for example), and the Hbomberguy poo poo is from a recent twitter thread. So it's not from nowhere, and the ability of Internet types to hold a grudge still amazes me.

Short story: GamerGate poo poo hosed my head up yo. That is all.

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Something something "wide variety of leftists". Not feeling the whole shitposting thing. But pretend it's a post from someone going on about "correct opinions" and "can't handle differing viewpoints"...you know, like your Facebook relatives.

Oh, and welcome Phelan. I enjoy your stuff and the whole "meta-review" shtick you do at times. Enjoy your time here.

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somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer

So he reviewed The Geek too? :v:

I'd really love to see someone dig into more of these "documentary" series where nothing happens. Anyone here know any TV reviewers who do that?

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