dusty posted:

Ready your gifs of Key touching children's hair

Butt Wizard posted:

I mean more if getting police involved/charges laid is/was the intention, she should have and probably would have done that.

She seems like she's more interested in getting him rightfully called out for being a dick.

Varkk posted:

Maybe she did go to the police and he is the prominent New Zealander who is facing charges we aren't supposed to talk about.

Slavvy posted:

I still don't think it's a sexual thing. I think he just has a bizarre OCD compulsion to gently caress around with people's hair and most men he meets don't have pig/ponytails. Also helps that women are less likely to react with uncontrollable rage.

Slavvy posted:

I think you're dead-set on making it sexual, against all sense and reason. I very much doubt that he's both a pedophile and a wanna-be conventional rapist. It strikes me as being more like the kind of habits obsessive-compulsive people have - like he's unable to resist the urge to childishly tug on people's hair and hasn't learned to restrain himself because he's the goddamn PM. I'm not saying it's right or good but desperately trying to force it into being a sex thing against all reason doesn't really help anything.

"Tantalising" is not "titillating" and the impression I get is of him trying to imply "if you didn't want me to tug on it like an enormous child, why would you tie it up in a ponytail? "

Saying there's physical intimidation is pretty ridiculous though. He isn't an african warlord. The waitress isn't in fear of JK hitting her or committing some act of violence against her, ditto the security (who are quite literally working a government job and aren't actually super-villain henchmen who dispose of bodies).

Slavvy posted:

You argue the point a lot better than klen dool; you're probably right.

Butt Wizard posted:

Headlines change as stories develop. The only place that was carrying it before the apology was out was The Daily Blog. When the PM apologises, that becomes the headline. It's also when most media outlets picked it up.

Somfin posted:

You did a good job of going the next step and digging into the philosophy behind why that poo poo was definitely an abuse of power and why she didn't say anything at the time. All I had to do was establish the fundamental point of 'yes this definitely counts as sexual, or it's close enough that it doesn't matter, and it probably isn't just an OCD thing.'

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Mr Key could also be investigated for common assault for "hostile touching" if police received a complaint, he said.

Auckland University criminology and sociology lecturer Dr Ronald Kramer said Mr Key's unwanted physical actions put the vulnerable waitress in a powerless position where she was unable to "fight back".

"You have to remember this is an older white male with a lot of power doing something like this to a woman who is presumably young, in a difficult job, and presumably on low pay."

Dr Kramer said people in powerful positions such as the prime minister's often did not think about how their actions affected others.



Doctored.

Lancelot posted:

today I'm gonna remember the Maori jailed for objecting to being conscripted into the army of their violent colonial oppressors to fight for a foreign monarchy which invaded their land and illegally dispossessed them of it

Vandalseed posted:

Right, point taken.

Were you there for the 10:00AM one? I was less than 10m away from the minute gun, and literally knew exactly when it would fire, but it still made me jump. KABOOM!

How about the ferals at the riverfront who literally (this is sooo overused, but actually, literally true this time ) could not stop their offspring from talking during the one minute silence?

I have never served, and obviously this all comes across as self-righteous-by-proxy.

But, that really soured the whole thing. The ferals in question are serial peaceniks from a long way back. Okay, we get it, but : A little decorum, folks, at least today?

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

I hope someone casually knifes him in the throat.

WarpedNaba posted:

I can't believe it. After scandals and corruption and embezzlement and mismanagement and generally being an utter laughing stock overseas, it's ponytail pulling that sinks the PM in the public's eye.

It's like Al Capone and tax evasion, Christ.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

I believe you mean "horsing around"

Ghostlight posted:

It's also been a number of years, but at the time our local MP was key in helping my mum keep pressure on the government to negotiate my dad out of effectively being held for ransom overseas.

Ghostlight posted:

It probably wouldn't dox me any more than any other information already out there, so sure.

My family spent a number of years in Riyadh as my father was deployed there by the American company he was working for. When he was done my parents decided to return to New Zealand rather than the States, and as we were all boarding the plane he was pulled aside, his passport taken, and he was told he couldn't leave because he was a spy. The rest of us left on that plane, as he was worried about what could happen if we stayed, and once back in New Zealand my mother had to work with a government that really didn't care to rock the boat in regard to demanding its Middle Eastern ally-by-way-of-all-holy-America return a citizen that was being held for national security reasons that mysteriously could all be cleared up if his company made a couple of million dollars worth of concessions/promises that it didn't feel inclined to make for a now ex-employee. It was about a year and a half of prodding the MFA to please ask the Saudi government for their citizen back before I guess the political hassle of holding him started outweighing the imagined payoff and they let him get on a plane.

Exclamation Marx posted:

echinopsis posted:

Our flag doesn't have to disregard every aspect of our legacy. White people colonising this country have arguably made it the country it is today

Exclamation Marx posted:

https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/gallery/design/1710

my design made it

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Varkk posted:

Also ask Winston if he has stairs in his house.

Bushmaori posted:

Hold politicians to account for each and every lie they tell. Make them apologise in front of a crowd who hold rotten vegetables, after 20 lies they can no longer be a politician and their retirement benefits are cut. Also in the event they die young their bodies are stuffed and left around the beehive.

Weight votes based on if the voter actually understands the issue, rather than being a parrot of talking points. This was anyone who votes that gay marriage should be illegal based on the word of god is rightly ignored. Also put them in the stocks or something, I don't know.

Vote Bush.

Bushmaori posted:

Is it any less practical than the god-awful system we have now?

Vote Bush.

Slavvy posted:

Let me tell you about humans.

Bushmaori posted:

Well just because Peter Dunne is human scum doesn't necessarily mean his crotch fruit is. In fact, son of Dunne might not be scum.

Disclaimer: I'm a big drama queen that thinks any politician that supports the war on drugs is dumb, and any politician in a position to fight it but who chooses not to can die in a fire.

Ghostlight posted:

They're a miserable pile of secrets.

Slavvy posted:

Every time JK goes anywhere overseas, he's referred to as meeting with other heads of state.

If I went out in the street and asked who NZ's head of state was, practically everyone will say John Key.

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, I'm just saying that for the overwhelming majority of NZers there is no distinction between a head of state and a PM. Most people aren't even aware of the difference.

bobbilljim posted:

how did these youngsters get onto the Internet's only troll free forum

Slavvy posted:

Long story involving americans chastising me for using THE C WORD. I'll change it back when I can be bothered.

Exclamation Marx posted:

I'm pro flag change even though it's an obvious legacy-building exercise for Key, we probably won't get another opportunity for 50 years. I'm also really hoping for something with no fern/southern cross.

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

Cumslut1895 posted:

Anyone convicted of a vicious enough assault*, rape or murder should be executed.
Do you believe a six year jail sentence is sufficient for burning someone alive?

Acting like I'm some kind of monster just shows how loving little you care about the actual victims. Yeah, give the perpetrators light sentences, it's not like they really did anything that bad!

* Anything causing serious disability, physical or mental should be legally considered murder

Cumslut1895 posted:

lol okay buddy