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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient;



WHERE TO WATCH
It will be on every broadcast and cable network, just turn on your TV (which you probably got for free thanks to Obama, you filthy moocher!). Links to internet streams will be posted here on the day of the speech. The official White House YouTube one usually has a few seconds of delay. The C-SPAN one is often the best.

Official website: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu
PBS stream: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/



MAJOR TOPICS AND THEMES




GUESTS

  • Carolyn Reed, sandwich shop owner who pays employees $10.10/hr
  • Jason Gibson, Afghanistan veteran
  • Victor Fugate, healthcare worker and PPACA enrollee
  • Ana Zamora, DREAMer



STATE OF THE UNION RESPONSES
  • Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) will give the official Republican response
  • Representative Curt Clawson (R-FL) will give the Tea Party response
  • Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) will give his own response on his YouTube channel at 10pm
  • Kshama Sawant will be providing a socialist response at 7:30 PST
  • Former Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) will live tweet his reactions to the speech

DESIGNATED SURVIVOR

Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx



D-D-D-D-DROP THA BASS 'BAMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEnyV1Cb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEnyV1Cb0

Joementum fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jan 21, 2015

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

You can also add this to speaking topics

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/17/obama-sotu-taxes_n_6493144.html

quote:

President Barack Obama will lay out a plan to extend tax credits to the middle class by hiking taxes on wealthier Americans and big banks, according to senior administration officials.

Under the plan, the capital gains tax would be raised from its current level of 15 percent up to 28 percent for couples with incomes over $500,000 a year. The plan would also strip a tax break, known as a "step-up," that allows heirs to avoid capital gains taxes on large inheritances.

In addition, the plan would institute a new tax on the biggest financial institutions, basing the fee on liabilities in order to discourage risky borrowing. The administration says the fee would hit the roughly 100 banks that have assets of $50 billion or more.

The president's plan would use revenues from those tax code changes to finance credits aimed at the middle class, officials said. That includes extending the earned income tax credits to families without children, which would benefit an estimated 13 million low-income workers, while also tripling the maximum tax credits for child care in low- and middle-income homes.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

In short, nothing that will pass this year (except that last one). Got it.

EDIT: I wonder if we'll get another "you lie" moment this year.

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jan 18, 2015

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
Take a drink every time Joe steals the show.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
I just hope we get more outbursts that I can splice movie quotes into.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u80IptmM6JY&hd=1

2009 was a terrible, magical time. :allears:

Also looking forward to seeing every flavor of Republican rebuttal about how we shouldn't educate people and can't hurt telecoms and must nuke Iran and Cuba.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Down a whole bottle of vodka if Hogballs talks about castrating the prez.

SwimmingSpider
Jan 3, 2008


Jön, jön, jön a vizipók.
Várják már a tólakók.
Ez a kis pók ügyes búvár.
Sok új kaland is még rá vár.
This is the same day [P]Resident Evil comes out on Steam. is Valve trying to tell us something?

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
That first gif never gets old, loving Diamond Joe

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The Joe Wilson "YOU LIE" moment was at a speech to a joint session of Congress, but not during a State of the Union address.

Justice Alito did mouth "you're wrong" or something to that effect when Obama called out SCOTUS on Citizens United, but it wasn't mic'd.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Joementum posted:

The Joe Wilson "YOU LIE" moment was at a speech to a joint session of Congress, but not during a State of the Union address.

Technically correct (because incoming presidents since George H. W. Bush don't give a State of the Union address, but instead a "First Address to a joint session of Congress"). For all intents and purposes, it's basically a replacement for the State of the Union address for that year, though, so it's a fair comparison. (Hell, it even gets an opposing party response; the 2009 speech was Jindal's time to shine).

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Technically correct (because incoming presidents since George H. W. Bush don't give a State of the Union address, but instead a "First Address to a joint session of Congress"). For all intents and purposes, it's basically a replacement for the State of the Union address for that year, though, so it's a fair comparison.

Nah, the Joe Wilson outburst was during a September speech Obama was giving to Congress while trying to sell them on healthcare reform. Wilson thought that Obama was lying when he said PPACA wouldn't cover illegal immigrants.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Joementum posted:

Nah, the Joe Wilson outburst was during a September speech Obama was giving to Congress while trying to sell them on healthcare reform. Wilson thought that Obama was lying when he said PPACA wouldn't cover illegal immigrants.

Ah, thanks for the correction.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
Real happy to see President Obama and the Democrats address free community college and increasing the capital gains tax now when they have neither the house or senate instead of back in 2009 when they controlled both and popular support for both of those things would have been through the roof riding Obama's victory. I love the tried and true Democratic strategy of paying lip service to leftists in order to get votes so they can get elected and govern like Republicans.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Hot Dog Day #31 posted:

Real happy to see President Obama and the Democrats address free community college and increasing the capital gains tax now when they have neither the house or senate instead of back in 2009 when they controlled both and popular support for both of those things would have been through the roof riding Obama's victory. I love the tried and true Democratic strategy of paying lip service to leftists in order to get votes so they can get elected and govern like Republicans.

Raising capital gains is not a left solution, eating the rich is.

Sorry you're just a filthy lib. :smug:

e: also no one needs to go to college unless you're a neoliberal.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Hot Dog Day #31 posted:

Real happy to see President Obama and the Democrats address free community college and increasing the capital gains tax now when they have neither the house or senate instead of back in 2009 when they controlled both and popular support for both of those things would have been through the roof riding Obama's victory. I love the tried and true Democratic strategy of paying lip service to leftists in order to get votes so they can get elected and govern like Republicans.

B-b-but tea party! Obstructionists!

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Hot Dog Day #31 posted:

Real happy to see President Obama and the Democrats address free community college and increasing the capital gains tax now when they have neither the house or senate instead of back in 2009 when they controlled both and popular support for both of those things would have been through the roof riding Obama's victory. I love the tried and true Democratic strategy of paying lip service to leftists in order to get votes so they can get elected and govern like Republicans.

Gotta coopt the Warren/Sanders wing before it causes too much trouble. Putting the blame on the Republicans voting everything down to hide the neoliberalness of the Dems is a smart move.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Waiting for these guys to update.... http://www.drinkinggame.us

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Hot Dog Day #31 posted:

Real happy to see President Obama and the Democrats address free community college and increasing the capital gains tax now when they have neither the house or senate instead of back in 2009 when they controlled both and popular support for both of those things would have been through the roof riding Obama's victory. I love the tried and true Democratic strategy of paying lip service to leftists in order to get votes so they can get elected and govern like Republicans.

They did get Obamacare passed. That was a big one.


And today there was a story that Obama will push for 6 weeks paid maternity leave too.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Obama did come through on a majority of his campaign promises:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

They did get Obamacare passed. That was a big one.


And today there was a story that Obama will push for 6 weeks paid maternity leave too.

He executive ordered it for federal employees. Which is a little surprising, since I thought almost anything for them had to go through three rounds of negotiations with the unions, but I guess maybe just cuts? Benefits go through automatically, maybe?

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.
Senator Gillibrand has invited the woman who protested sexual assault policies at Columbia to the SOTU.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Joementum posted:

[*]Carolyn Reed, sandwich shop owner who pays employees $10.10/hr

Is this the only thing she's done? $15/hr is the lowest wage my boss pays, why isn't he a special guest?

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
$10.10 an hour is (about) $1600 a month, 19,200 a year - isn't that poverty level? poo poo, that's before taxes even. That doesn't seem like something to crow about. It's better than being completely loving destitute, but I don't see why it gets you invited to the SotU. Good for her, but I think I'm missing something.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Full Battle Rattle posted:

$10.10 an hour is (about) $1600 a month, 19,200 a year - isn't that poverty level? poo poo, that's before taxes even. That doesn't seem like something to crow about. It's better than being completely loving destitute, but I don't see why it gets you invited to the SotU. Good for her, but I think I'm missing something.

$10.10 is around the minimum wage Obama wants, and I guess she is an example it won't cause the destruction of everything we hold dear.

That said there is movement from a bunch of states to raise the minimum wage, including Oregon where there is already a inflation-index.

ANIME AKBAR
Jan 25, 2007

afu~

EugeneJ posted:

Obama did come through on a majority of his campaign promises:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

Uh even by their count he only kept %45?

Also this list is still hilariously slanted in Obama's favor. I mean look at all this poo poo that belongs under "Broken."

Compromised:
End the use of extreme rendition
Restrict warrantless wiretaps
Make White House communications public
Increase protections for whistleblowers
End the war in Afghanistan in 2014

Kept:
Vigorously pursue hate crimes and civil rights abuses
No permanent bases in Iraq (tried to break this one and Iraq told you to gently caress off)
End the use of torture (asdouhgfjsgolrgjd;lrgkj)

In the works:
Enact the Buffett rule
Safeguard the right to privacy
Reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030
Work to renew the assault weapons ban
Better enforce gun laws

Stalled:
Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Walk with picketers when collective bargaining rights are threatened
End tax deductions for companies that offshore

Caros
May 14, 2008

ANIME AKBAR posted:

Uh even by their count he only kept %45?

Also this list is still hilariously slanted in Obama's favor. I mean look at all this poo poo that belongs under "Broken."

Compromised:
End the use of extreme rendition
Restrict warrantless wiretaps
Make White House communications public
Increase protections for whistleblowers
End the war in Afghanistan in 2014

Kept:
Vigorously pursue hate crimes and civil rights abuses
No permanent bases in Iraq (tried to break this one and Iraq told you to gently caress off)
End the use of torture (asdouhgfjsgolrgjd;lrgkj)

In the works:
Enact the Buffett rule
Safeguard the right to privacy
Reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030
Work to renew the assault weapons ban
Better enforce gun laws

Stalled:
Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Walk with picketers when collective bargaining rights are threatened
End tax deductions for companies that offshore

Last I checked the US stopped torturing people. It was literally the third executive order he signed, something he did on his second day in office.

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

Caros posted:

Last I checked the US stopped torturing people. It was literally the third executive order he signed, something he did on his second day in office.

We force-fed hunger strikers in Guantanamo so there's that

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
In which Obama calls for a lot of stuff that he knows will never happen.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Defenestration posted:

We force-fed hunger strikers in Guantanamo so there's that

Non-Rectal (Seriously what the gently caress) force feeding isn't torture. We force feed inmates in US prisons when they go on hunger strike because not doing so leaves us with two options, Hope the prisoner gives up before he starves to death, or acquiesce to their demands. While I actually agree that Guantanamo detainee demands of "Let us go we didn't loving do anything before we were sold to the US as terrorists' are pretty reasonable, lets not redefine a medical procedure as torture.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Defenestration posted:

We force-fed hunger strikers in Guantanamo so there's that

It wasn't rectally, so there's that.

These administrations are both similar and different in many ways people ignore.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Caros posted:

Non-Rectal (Seriously what the gently caress) force feeding isn't torture. We force feed inmates in US prisons when they go on hunger strike because not doing so leaves us with two options, Hope the prisoner gives up before he starves to death, or acquiesce to their demands. While I actually agree that Guantanamo detainee demands of "Let us go we didn't loving do anything before we were sold to the US as terrorists' are pretty reasonable, lets not redefine a medical procedure as torture.

Why isn't letting them starve to death an option? It's Gitmo, they aren't exactly in a place of compassion and caring.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Letting them starve to death looks bad on our part. Almost like we're doing something wrong, maybe. And yes, that is probably the reason we force these people to live: PR.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Evil Fluffy posted:

Why isn't letting them starve to death an option? It's Gitmo, they aren't exactly in a place of compassion and caring.

The same reason we don't stand by and idly watch prisoners commit suicide I suppose.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

oh boy I sure do want to listen to a laundry list of things that will literally never happen

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh boy I sure do want to listen to a laundry list of things that will literally never happen

To be fair to Obama, if he doesn't start a conversation about these topics, no one will. Because you know the Republicans won't, and the media tends to not pay attention to any left-wing ideas unless they've got some right-wing "moderate" on hand to "just ask questions". As an example, other than on D&D and maybe HuffPo, when was the last time you heard about the House Progressive Caucus's budget proposal?

The bigger question is "why use the bully pulpit for this now?" (I am drawn to the proposed answer that it's about co-opting the Warren wing now before they get too uppity and actually demanding stuff they can get)

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


At this point, I'm much more interested in the structure of the speech and whether the oratory is any good than the content. It's not gonna happen anyway.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh boy I sure do want to listen to a laundry list of things that will literally never happen

Here, have some bullshit that's happening right now.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

couldn't the President have found a restauranteer who pays their employees more than $10.10/hour? I know there are some.

10bux minimum wage has either already happened or will soon happen in most states. It is time to start showing off bolder examples.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
I love LOVE the fact that an employer who deigns to pay her employees slightly more than the absolute minimum of what you are legally required to pay your employees gets an invite to this, meanwhile labor activists in Seattle and other areas are actually fighting and succeeding in bringing $15 minimum wages to their areas through the 15Now campaign. But no, that's going just a smidgen too far for Democrats and besides, those are being organized by actual progressives, actual labor activists, and actual leftists who want to help workers get paid what they are worth.

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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

ComradeCosmobot posted:


The bigger question is "why use the bully pulpit for this now?" (I am drawn to the proposed answer that it's about co-opting the Warren wing now before they get too uppity and actually demanding stuff they can get)

He's been doing this every year for at least the past 3 years.

Most conspiracy theories require the listener to not pay attention.

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