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Just something with the best support for web surfing. It's kind of a shame to trash a G5 with 4GB RAM but MacOS is a no go at version 10.5.
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redeyes posted:Just something with the best support for web surfing. It's kind of a shame to trash a G5 with 4GB RAM but MacOS is a no go at version 10.5. I ended up keeping Leopard and running TenFourFox as a browser - it's a relatively new version of Firefox that's been backported to run well on Tiger and Leopard. Runs very well on my G5 iMac.
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Jan 21, 2015 07:50
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You could always throw Ubuntu on there. It's only got community support but it's updated regularly and should work well. I wouldn't recommend using OSX versions that old, they'd likely be riddled with security issues. Having said all that you'd probably be better off just dumping it and getting a cheap, low powered Celeron-based computer. Even the newer Chromebooks (with the Celeron 2955U) are roughly equivelent in power to the G5. CPUs have come a long way in a decade.
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Jan 21, 2015 15:54
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SwissCM posted:I wouldn't recommend using OSX versions that old, they'd likely be riddled with security issues. I wouldn't be real worried of attacks on the internet running a PowerPC. I also like the Chromebook idea.
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Jan 21, 2015 16:01
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Bob Morales posted:I wouldn't be real worried of attacks on the internet running a PowerPC. It's unlikely, but I wouldn't recommend people run Windows 98 on the internet either. Some security issues can pop up across a huge number of revisions. But yeah it really just comes down to the computer being obsolete. Unless you need it for some obscure software, or you're a collector/nostalgic there isn't much of a reason to run an old Mac. The G5s were pretty power hungry too so you're using up money there. Sell the G5 on ebay and get a (x86-based) Chromebook or something.
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Jan 21, 2015 16:53
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SwissCM posted:It's unlikely, but I wouldn't recommend people run Windows 98
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Jan 21, 2015 17:18
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Bob Morales posted:Windows 98 is still going to run on Intel though Not all security problems are buffer overflows or otherwise depend on CPU architecture. I agree that such platforms are unlikely to be targeted, but not everything needs to be targeted that specifically. Seconding the suggestion of choose your favorite PPC Linux distro if you insist on using it rather than an old version of OS X, but also seconding the point that it's such a power hungry old machine that it really doesn't make sense to use anymore. wolrah fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 19:52
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JnnyThndrs posted:I ended up keeping Leopard and running TenFourFox as a browser - it's a relatively new version of Firefox that's been backported to run well on Tiger and Leopard. Runs very well on my G5 iMac. After trying 5 different distros including Yellow Dog and Lubuntu I went back to 10.5 and TenFourFox. Linux acceleration is non existent so OSX seems best but man, that G5 seems slower than I remember. Oh well. Maybe I'll hack the poo poo out of the case or something. I bet this stupid thing will never die. It comes from the era when Apple made good stuff. quote:Having said all that you'd probably be better off just dumping it and getting a cheap, low powered Celeron-based computer. Even the newer Chromebooks (with the Celeron 2955U) are roughly equivelent in power to the G5. CPUs have come a long way in a decade. Good point. This is mostly me being stupid and trying to find a use for it. I have plenty of computers. redeyes fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 21:01
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redeyes posted:I bet this stupid thing will never die. It comes from the era when Apple made good stuff. As long as you didn't have the high end G5!
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Jan 21, 2015 22:56
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Jan 22, 2015 14:28
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redeyes posted:After trying 5 different distros including Yellow Dog and Lubuntu I went back to 10.5 and TenFourFox. Linux acceleration is non existent so OSX seems best but man, that G5 seems slower than I remember. Oh well. Maybe I'll hack the poo poo out of the case I'm insane and bought a mSata 240gb 840 Evo when newegg had that big sale, put it in a $12 msata-to-SATA case and chucked it into my old Mac Pro G5 tower. Even with the PATA limitations, it seems fast as hell until you try something like running HD YouTube video or ripping DVD's. I took another G5 case and modded it for a MATX mobo, then made a Hackintosh out of it - even got the front ports, LED and all six fans working. I highly recommend this course of action if you like the old cheese grater cases as much as I do.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:39
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SwissCM posted:Having said all that you'd probably be better off just dumping it and getting a cheap, low powered Celeron-based computer. Even the newer Chromebooks (with the Celeron 2955U) are roughly equivelent in power to the G5. CPUs have come a long way in a decade. Roughly?
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Jan 22, 2015 15:06
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10.4 is clearly a better OS for it than 10.5, on the basis that you can still install Classic on 10.4 and then install After Dark screensavers in the OS9 classic environment
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Jan 22, 2015 16:26
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Roughly? My chromebook is a little slower than my old Core Duo Mac Book Pro, which was a little faster than the G5. But they're also completely different architectures, so yeah, roughly.
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Jan 23, 2015 09:45
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SwissCM posted:My chromebook is a little slower than my old Core Duo Mac Book Pro, which was a little faster than the G5. What benchmark are you making this comparison with?
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Jan 23, 2015 12:37
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 FWIW, MacBook Pro (Mid 2007) scores 3296
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Jan 23, 2015 14:10
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What benchmark are those scores from?
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Jan 23, 2015 15:19
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SYSV Fanfic posted:What benchmark are those scores from? I'd guess Geekbench
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Jan 23, 2015 15:21
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SwissCM posted:My chromebook is a little slower than my old Core Duo Mac Book Pro, which was a little faster than the G5. I'm not calling you out, and I could be wrong - but the 2995U is twice as fast as that benchmark. I just want to understand where you are coming from. Were you posting from a perspective of benchmarks or user experience?
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SYSV Fanfic posted:I'm not calling you out, and I could be wrong - but the 2995U is twice as fast as that benchmark. Faulty memory perhaps. It's been a while since I looked it up.
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SwissCM posted:It's unlikely, but I wouldn't recommend people run Windows 98 on the internet either. For what it's worth, I've actively attempted to get my old Windows 98 computer (which I run using a CompactFlash card as the hard drive, making restoring to a fresh backup easy as hell from my modern computer) infected with poo poo, and nothing seems to work these days. You have trouble actually doing a bunch of internet things in general because the hardware's passed by, but all the drive-bys out there seem to want an NT kernel to gently caress up, you just get "not a valid win32 app" on 98. A version of OS X old enough to still handle PowerPC is going to be much the same.
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Nintendo Kid posted:For what it's worth, I've actively attempted to get my old Windows 98 computer (which I run using a CompactFlash card as the hard drive, making restoring to a fresh backup easy as hell from my modern computer) infected with poo poo, and nothing seems to work these days. Stick to the web rings you trust.
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I bricked my dad's Windows 98 box installing a DOS game from the bargain bin  
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redeyes posted:Just something with the best support for web surfing. It's kind of a shame to trash a G5 with 4GB RAM but MacOS is a no go at version 10.5. Gentoo and Debian both have pretty good PowerPC support. Debian probably has the most up-to-date packages.
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Stick with Leopard. It's killer. You can go crazy if you want and mod it to make it look... somewhat newer. Search for Mountain Lion theme for Leopard, for instance. Go with Tiger if you want to run classic Mac apps. I rarely do, so Leopard is good enough for me. TenFourFox is really secure and does not rely on the built-in and outdated security features of Leopard. Webkit-Leopard is a more updated version of Safari for PPC machines, but it's not as secure as TenFourFox. With an older SSD and 8 GB of RAM, those G5s are still pretty useable and fun to tinker with. The TenFourFox blog has a lot of links and info you can explore. Bad news is that Dropbox is cutting support this May, so people are having to look for workarounds for that kind of stuff. If the computer works, use it till it dies, unless you can find someone who will buy it off of you for a decent price.
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RocketLunatic posted:unless you can find someone who will buy it off of you for a decent price. I'd be tempted to use the fact Apple gear keeps its value and get rid of it, since it's just taking up space and eating up power without being better than something like an Intel NUC that would use almost no space or power. But I know it can be fun to play with old gear, for sure.
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HalloKitty posted:I'd be tempted to use the fact Apple gear keeps its value and get rid of it, since it's just taking up space and eating up power without being better than something like an Intel NUC that would use almost no space or power. But I know it can be fun to play with old gear, for sure. PowerMac G5s definitely don't keep their value. They typically go for $99 to $200, and they cost $2000 to $3300 brand new. Same sort of deal with PowerMac G4s and especially the various iMacs, they can go for as low as $50 and rarely top $200.
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Nintendo Kid posted:PowerMac G5s definitely don't keep their value. They typically go for $99 to $200, and they cost $2000 to $3300 brand new. Sell it, get this.
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sports posted:Debian probably has the most up-to-date packages. Only in the land of 9 years dead consumer products could this statement ever be made.
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I fully support you if you want to use old hardware for fun. However if you really just want to web surf because it'd be a shame to throw it away, I vote for throw it away, since your cell phone is more capable and featured than that computer for web browsing.
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1gnoirents posted:I fully support you if you want to use old hardware for fun. However if you really just want to web surf because it'd be a shame to throw it away, I vote for throw it away, since your cell phone is more capable and featured than that computer for web browsing. I'd encourage you to make sure it goes to a reputable e-waste service. I'm not sure, but apple may even have a takeback program.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:I'd encourage you to make sure it goes to a reputable e-waste service. I'm not sure, but apple may even have a takeback program. They do.
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Don't you dare throw away the most powerful Amiga ever made! http://www.morphos-team.net/ 
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