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Have an exact date for the episode, Nov 10, 1982. Looks like we get some Andropov fun times.
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JohnSherman posted:
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Jan 29, 2015 05:01
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Welp, it's The Americans alright.
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This episode has to have set the record for "Number of Times Naughty Bits Were Almost Shown On TV But Were Well-Hidden On Standard Cable".
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Jan 29, 2015 05:03
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CBJSprague24 posted:This episode has to have set the record for "Number of Times Naughty Bits Were Almost Shown On TV But Were Well-Hidden On Standard Cable". Mad Men has pushed the sideboob envelope a few times
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Jan 29, 2015 05:04
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That was a really strange last five minutes. That ISI guy was really chill considering someone just walked in on him killing a woman.
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Jan 29, 2015 05:11
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JohnSherman posted:That was a really strange last five minutes. That ISI guy was really chill considering someone just walked in on him killing a woman. I would say it being that easy for Philip to turn around and blackmail him showed how un-chill he really was at that moment.
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Jan 29, 2015 05:25
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Martha is totally gonna shoot Stan this season, thinking she is protecting Clark from him
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Jan 29, 2015 06:02
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I'll never get tired of Noah Emmerich as Stan the third wheel.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:04
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The guy doing the car tailing drivers ed with Elizabeth is new this season right? I feel like I'm going mad trying to think if I just blacked out last season.
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DivisionPost posted:Yeah, I should've said something earlier, but great work, drunkill.  I cut out the whole season 2 re-cap stuff for every plotpoint because it was bloated. I was going to add a little more to this OP soon though, once I have some time. I decided just to make 'the factions' info for some new or returning viewers.This episode was great, I like like that Lev Gorn is now a regular this season, Arkady is a cool dude. A little more background info on Oleg too, has a brother in the army (presumably) in Afghanistan. Party Plane Jones posted:Have an exact date for the episode, Nov 10, 1982. Looks like we get some Andropov fun times. One of the network execs said he can see The Americans running for five seasons, feeling that would be enough time to tell a story and not let it go stale, but that's just one exec, hopefully they get the ratings and the critical reception, I think season 4 is pretty much guaranteed at this point. "You said she was, what, 5'2"? 5'3"?" Oh Stan 
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Jan 29, 2015 12:38
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JohnSherman posted:That was a really strange last five minutes. That ISI guy was really chill considering someone just walked in on him killing a woman.  Annalise. You were kinda crazy.I wonder what they will do with Nina. I mean it would be a pretty big copout if she came back on the show after what Moscow was threatening her with.
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Jan 29, 2015 13:16
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I wonder what they will do with Nina. I mean it would be a pretty big copout if she came back on the show after what Moscow was threatening her with. Unless they're setting up Oleg. Arkady's being awfully chummy with him all of a sudden, warning him, etc. Kind of makes me think he's letting him fashion a noose as punishment for co-opting his authority and side-stepping him.
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Jan 29, 2015 13:19
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drunkill posted:How'd you get this, the execution at the start? I think most of this season is supposed to be 1983, with Brezhnev death being a focus, and well Andropov doesn't last too long either. He might last until the next of next season. [Edit: Oh, I missed five entire minutes!] Paige is flipping through channels and it has Tom Brokaw announcing Brezhnev's death for about 5 seconds before going to another channel.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:29
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If anyone else is wondering, this is the US-Canada Institute.
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Does Elizabeth know who Gaad is? Cause he got a pretty good look at her face before she knocked his rear end out. Also, drat girl, take your wig off when you suspect the Feds are patrolling you. Go hide in a bush or something. They should just leave Nina dead or in Siberia. There's enough going on here they don't need to force her back in the game. Speaking of The Game, anybody else watch that mini-series on the BBC?
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does Elizabeth know who Gaad is? Cause he got a pretty good look at her face before she knocked his rear end out. I thought this was kind of an oversight that she didn't mention that it was Gaad whom she beat the poo poo out of, since I'm almost positive I remember them talking about the bug in his office.
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does Elizabeth know who Gaad is? Cause he got a pretty good look at her face before she knocked his rear end out. Also, drat girl, take your wig off when you suspect the Feds are patrolling you. Go hide in a bush or something. Yea that was pretty lol. Change your outfit but don't change your wig. C'mon 
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Jan 30, 2015 17:24
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As we saw in last year's season premiere, those wigs are stapled on tight. She might not be able to just unobtrusively flip it off.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:37
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tomapot posted:I know this is from the Russian couple's perspective but it seems like they've gotten the upper hand over and over again. Did the U.S. Suck that bad, or were we having successes elsewhere?
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Sober posted:The guy doing the car tailing drivers ed with Elizabeth is new this season right? I feel like I'm going mad trying to think if I just blacked out last season. Yes he's new
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does Elizabeth know who Gaad is? Cause he got a pretty good look at her face before she knocked his rear end out. Also, drat girl, take your wig off when you suspect the Feds are patrolling you. Go hide in a bush or something. Yeah, I figured she was gonna at least duck down some side streets, try to be a little less visible instead of walking straight down some major avenue. I can't think of any plausible way they could bring back Nina unless she's gonna have her own subplot in Russia.
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She could be sent to Siberia to the same place as the former Resident and the stealth technology scientist.
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savinhill posted:I can't think of any plausible way they could bring back Nina unless she's gonna have her own subplot in Russia. Put a wig on her.
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Here's the short episode summary for next week: Elizabeth and Philip come together to deal with a mission gone wrong, but struggle to reconcile their increasingly opposing ideologies. Stan welcomes a Soviet defector, Zinaida, to America. Nina acclimates to her new living arrangements. So Nina is still an active part of the show for now at least.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:04
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Nina is essential to my mission
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Jan 31, 2015 16:12
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Party Plane Jones posted:The U.S. had successes but they were very much in the realm of signals intelligence (bugging the soviet navy communications) over human intelligence. The 80s saw a lot of programs get screwed by people selling secrets to the Soviets. Most of the human intelligence successes actually came from US allies (the Farewell dossier, Oleg Gordievsky) instead of the CIA. Thanks for sharing this stuff. Any other history / Cold War buffs who want to chime in I think it is fascinating to hear what was really going on about this time in real life between The Free World and the Evil Empire.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:39
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Annett Mahendru's name is in the opening credits, as opposed to a "guest star" after-opening credits deal, so she must be prominent at some point in the season.
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ChadSexington posted:It's just a case of the main characters having insane plot armor. They really just need to avoid placing Liz in situations where she has to fight multiple grown men for it to be a bit less grating. Hed posted:Thanks for sharing this stuff. Any other history / Cold War buffs who want to chime in I think it is fascinating to hear what was really going on about this time in real life between The Free World and the Evil Empire. The CIA have been huge fuckups forever. That is not to say that others are necessarily more competent, but theirs are pretty well documented. There are really too many and I've read it too long ago to recall anything specific, but check out Legacy of Ashes: http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-History-Tim-Weiner/dp/0307389006/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422745678&sr=8-1&keywords=cia+history
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Legacy of Ashes is a terrifying chronicle and a great read. How did Elizabeth lose the list in the opening teaser? Did she ditch it before the fight, or lose it during the scuffle?
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Lost in the scuffle. The reason she knocked out Gaad the second time was because she was trying to find the list.
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Am I the only one that thinks that the pastor is secretly with the centre, and with the help of Elizabeth is actively grooming Paige behind Phillip's back? This theory about the pastor has been eating away at me ever since watching his calm reaction to the confrontation with Phillip last season.
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Fuckstick posted:Am I the only one that thinks that the pastor is secretly with the centre Probably.
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Fuckstick posted:Am I the only one that thinks that the pastor is secretly with the centre, and with the help of Elizabeth is actively grooming Paige behind Phillip's back? This theory about the pastor has been eating away at me ever since watching his calm reaction to the confrontation with Phillip last season. I'd suspect he's grooming her but not for spy work.
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wukkar posted:We... won the war? So the answer is yes, there were "successes" elsewhere. mobby_6kl posted:The CIA have been huge fuckups forever. That is not to say that others are necessarily more competent, but theirs are pretty well documented. There are really too many and I've read it too long ago to recall anything specific, but check out Legacy of Ashes: http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-History-Tim-Weiner/dp/0307389006/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422745678&sr=8-1&keywords=cia+history That's what I was getting at, I know we won the war but was it the result of out spending and attrition or spycraft? Were we turning Russian assets and stealing secrets as often and as successfully as the KGB appeared to. Is it plot armor or were we fumbling around while the KGB ran circles around us.
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tomapot posted:That's what I was getting at, I know we won the war but was it the result of out spending and attrition or spycraft? Mismanagement and corruption within the USSR mostly.
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tomapot posted:That's what I was getting at, I know we won the war but was it the result of out spending and attrition or spycraft? Were we turning Russian assets and stealing secrets as often and as successfully as the KGB appeared to. Is it plot armor or were we fumbling around while the KGB ran circles around us. It's way more accurate to say that the USSR "lost" and we just kind of fumbled around blindly. I don't think the FBI was necessarily bad at their job, but the CIA's history is basically one of total incompetence. A big part of the problem is that there was a lot of top-down pressure at the CIA to focus more on sexy operations and less on actual intelligence gathering. The CIA got a lot of people killed and did a lot of damage while not accomplishing very much. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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The CIA hired (and hires) brilliant people - but the management structure completely and utterly fucks the organization. A lot of Legacy of Ashes warps back to that central point, again and again. Has anyone read the book on the FBI, Enemies, by the same author? I have a long flight coming up and am thinking of giving it a go.
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Feb 5, 2015 01:15
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Can someone remind me of the old guy the Jenningses dined with? I think they called him Gabriel? I don't remember him from the past seasons at all.
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Feb 5, 2015 02:15
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He's a new character. I think he's their former handler.
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He was their old (possibly first considering the affection they had for him) handler who's taking care of them again, basically doing the exact same job as Claudia. I might be wrong in that but I don't remember him from previous seasons either.
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