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Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
e: ^They'll have a recap that may make more sense than actually playing them (and the political intrigue) but you won't have a grounding in the setting or a love of the characters.

I'm exceedingly excited for this and thanks to a hard drive failure or two I get to play through both The Witcher and Assassins of Kings for new saves AND a refresher on what happened in great detail in the past two games. Also the subtle, "Remember when you made Trish mad by giving Alvin to Shandi knowingwink?"

I wholeheartedly recommend playing those two prior to this, they're easily a couple of the best RPGs I've ever played. The first one is a bit rough but worth sticking with.


Also, if The Wild Hunt sticks to tradition I'll have ~3Gb of Witcher saves by the end of it all.

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Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

GrossMurpel posted:

Reminder that the books are actually good and you should read them all.

I was about to link that in fact.

The Last Wish

Blood of the Elves

The first two books by Andrzej Sapkowski. There are also The Time of Contempt and Baptism of Fire which I unfortunately have yet to read. The first book is only tangentially related to the games as it shares characters but it's merely a collection of short stories about Geralt of Rivia and only one of them has anything to do with the first game. Still, fantastic reading and I recommend them easily. I'll be rereading the first two while replaying the first two games in the coming months, I know that for certain.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
The Witcher 2 is the best game-long joke at Geralt's expense.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Section 31 posted:

Done.

e: I noticed Geralt called his horse by whistling the same way as player's character does in Dragon Age: Inquisition....and I'm not exactly fan of DAI... :stare:

GrossMurpel posted:


Maybe he's actually whistling for it like the player character in Two Worlds :colbert:

Would it make you happy to equate it with RDR instead?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
^ You sound like you work at CDPR. Give us behind the scenes details! I've been watching DoubleFine's Devs Play and I'm now interested in every developer story ever. :v:


TW1 spoiler question: Does anything you do/choose with Alvin affect how his adult acts? It's been too long and I've only played once through so far.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I've always found (especially with the detective bits in TW1 and the Act 2 split in TW2) that the narrative either requires a bit of extra thought OR just assumes you already know things it didn't overtly tell you.

In my only playthrough of TW2 I went with the Roche Act 2 and come Act 3 it kept talking about the dragon and various characters and some things that happened on the other side of the field that I had NO recollection of like I'd been there and talked to them the whole time. I had to check online for some mild explanation. But Letho's two hour infodump helped significantly.


I think I'm the only one to have enjoyed combat in both games. Save those swamp plants from TW1. No matter what I drank or did I could never kill them before they got me.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Anti-Hero posted:

Show of hands, who has played TW2 on the 360 instead of the PC? I played through Iorveth's path on the PC but lost all my saves in a HD crash. I have chanced upon a 360 copy and one of the dev videos promised cross-platform save imports so...

THIS REMINDS ME!

The Witcher 2 is the current Games With Gold title for the 360! It's only that way 'til this coming Sunday so hop on that poo poo now! It's always on your account as long as you start the download so if you don't have the space or want to play it right now you don't have to!

That said, :pcgaming: But hey, if you want free TW2 on your 360, there you go!

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Pre-ordered the day I could because :v:

At least they have the track record, good showing, and the willingness to delay to fix poo poo to alleviate any worries I'd have about this. I just want it in a couple weeks, not months! :allears: Rendering a trailer with a solid date on it...

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Lycus posted:

I'm ironclad about no more preorders. Even a good game may need to be patched, I don't need to play anything on day one.

Well neither Witcher titles needed patching! :colbert:

They just needed Extended Editions that only happened to fix some pretty bad bugs / gameplay by happenstance. Definitely not a patch though, NOPE!

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Quote-Unquote posted:

A 16 hour qte sex scene? Is David Cage making this game?

The Wild Hunt is just a Matrix ghost of a long dead religious culture who's after Geralt and Triss' unborn child of the ancient texts.

e: Oh, and Yennefer is actually their child sent back from the future to stop the machines from enslaving humanity but Dandelion abducted her ten years prior and wiped Geralt's memory to test him and see if he can find her and get her back to prove he's #1 Dad.

Also Dandelion is David Bowie.

Dark_Swordmaster fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 29, 2015

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Mars4523 posted:

The thing about Triss is that she's basically taking advantage of a mentally vulnerable guy for sex. That makes every one of your interactions with her suspect.

And also I really hate her voice actor in TW2.

Let's assume she's just using Geralt and doesn't actually love/like him. Boy toy and nearly invincible bodyguard, especially nice if your local union actually IS evil.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

To be clear I'm in the camp that believes what's between Geralt and Triss is legit, even if it's a little ugly in spots.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Or played any trilogy in the past five years.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I don't intend on playing DA:I, why was it poopy?


Also the kill X Y works because they aren't main quests in the least, they're just little job board postings that you don't even have to read. I love that in the latest developer video they go up to a job board and just mash 'A' and take all of them without reading.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Here's hoping they've finally implemented some sort of rolling quicksave system. Having over a few hundred MB of saves in TW1 and TW2 combined was loving HORRIBLE.

e: Also I rewatched the huge gameplay video tonight and you know what's awesome? Cutting people in half. Every once in a while. I really, REALLY hope the full release actually has it happen only every one-in-ten or whatever because as awesome as it is to slice someone vertically in loving half it will VERY quickly lose its awesome effect when every single killing blow does it. Even on scrawny little drowners.

Dark_Swordmaster fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Feb 4, 2015

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

GrossMurpel posted:

I actually didn't like how you saved over your quicksave slot every time in W2 and only kept the autosaves. In W1 you had the possiblity of reloading every old save in case something went wrong later.

That's why I said rolling. Make it a set of 3 or 5 games that just saves over the oldest one. TW1 was SUPER crash happy for me in Act 3 and Act 5, so I literally had to save prior to every. Single. Load screen.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I'm not advocating going back to the early 2000s' 'here are your eight save slots use them well.' I make new saves constantly throughout playing a game as bookmarks to go back to if I wanted (thank God for the rise of chapter selects!). But I think quicksaves shouldn't make a FULL save each time, just three or so that roll over. If you want a permanent save, make one. If you want a this-encounter-looks-tough save, I shouldn't have 300 Mb of pre-fights.



It's partially that I'm also ridiculously anti-save scumming, much to the dismay of my buddies I introduced to XCOM and such. Even though I can easily just NOT reload, I feel like what happens should happen, to the point where I'm going to make the same decisions I did in both TW1 and 2 to make sure I get my original story, even though I'm interested in seeing Iorveth Act 2 and a few characters in 3.


But mostly it's the space thing in relation to quicksaves, something meant to be quick and temporary in nature and use.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I just figured it would take drop into account.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Which is why I missed. : ( You guys switch to APEX yet for us hardcore ballista enthusiasts?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Lycus posted:

I really don't get why they didn't give you a different bonus for killing Aryan. Only giving you a bonus for one choice is bad.

I don't agree, then you get into Bioware territory. Maybe not so bad like the fact that your choice with the Racketbug Queen doesn't matter, but sometimes getting nothing instead of something is a consequence and a lot of The Witcher is consequences. Seems appropriately Witchery to sometimes give you nothing for your troubles.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Also you could literally introduce yourself to a guy by slamming his head into the bar.


Is it too late to add this or will that be EE territory?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Did you just post something about your company that wasn't 100% positive? :stonk:


Must be nice working at CDPR.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Some dude has to sit there and critique another dude's titty drawings with sincerity. It's just like DeviantArt.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
So as a quest designer do you get to do any of the basic inconsequential writing poo poo or is it (I would assume this) that they write poo poo and say, "Geralt needs to kill some harpies and find a bottle in their nest for a kid. Go find a nice location."?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Will I still feel guilty if I sleep with Ves while Triss is away?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I enjoyed TW2's combat to a degree but there's a difference between learning a combat system and learning how to accommodate the combat system. I hope 3's is one I can just play with rather than around.

Also my earlier comment was way tongue-in-cheek, Jesus. Any company that legally binds you from having an opinion is a Bad Company (TM).

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
So far they haven't showcase anything other than a large, living world. They don't advertise fishing or hunting or anything paltry like The Elder Scrolls fills its worlds with. So far it's just been advertised as a HUGE open world with quests littered about, none of which shown have been as bland and terrible as TES' traditional "Take this object here/from here for my inept rear end!" quests. Both of the first two Witcher games had sidequests that were 'kill x' or 'escort me!' or a few fetch quests, but most played out with Geralt, not the quest at the center.

Not saying they can't gently caress up an open world but I haven't seen any terms of feature creep unless you'd call the ability to explore/go wherever feature creep. The biggest problem I could see is missing a quest because you never went to the area it's in as there were some quests in the past two that you could miss even with hubs.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I don't see why the writing would suffer for this if it's open world. The past two games had phenomenal writing and changing from acts and hubs to an open world shouldn't degrade that. The baseline comparison seems to be The Elder Scrolls and they just have terrible writing, not because they're open world. GTA is also a culprit simply because the writers keep trying to write above a murder simulator.

Look at Mafia and Mafia 2. Open world, minimal not-main-story gameplay, pretty good writing. Also Red Dead Redemption, a Rockstar open world with some pretty fantastic writing all over it. Some shaky and lovely spots but a lot of it was a drat fine spaghetti western.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Not even the three examples I listed off the top of my head? I don't see why people think open world gameplay automatically equates to a bad story. I've played shooters and action games and linear RPGs with bad stories too. It just happens that a lot of open world games are written by bad writers.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
The Mafia games are perfectly fine. Are they Casino or Goodfellas or The Godfather? gently caress no, but they're drat fine interactive homages to the genre. Comparing game writing to movie writing is obviously going to leave the one designed to tell a story far above the one designed to be an interactive tale. They aren't bad stories.

I'll grant you increasing the potential size of everything could stretch writing thin and put a strain on it but they're likely not looking to cram story content into every single nook and cranny like so many open world games do. So far it looks like they've just made a large Witcher world and made a story take place in it. I could be wrong and we could be looking at another Oblivion/Skyrim/Fallout 3, but I'm going to give CDPR the benefit of the doubt on this as they clearly know what they're doing with the property.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Comte de Saint-Germain posted:

contra FO3 which made no sense as a place.



I'm not about to defend Fallout 3 but I don't remember anything about it. What was so wrong with it? The very little I can recall is that everyone and everything was compacted into The Mall which means no one had their own territory. Or something. I also remember the story being very, VERY poorly written but I don't remember any specifics except the ending where you literally die for no reason.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I'd forgotten about that loving crater town. I remember thinking that very same thing the first time I walked in there. How'd they explain it, second bomb?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
I did some Googling and found the best explanation:


It's a bad design made from the art team.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Couldn't Triss just magic his balls to perfection?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
As someone who has had disdain for TW2's combat AND who has played TW3, are you :smith: or :unsmith:

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
An added difficulty that makes the game ridiculously hard and unforgiving. The main feature is its ironman gameplay in which if you die it wipes the save.


Details via a ten second Google search

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
That page says you can use your saves but then immediately says you can't. gently caress that page.


e: Nope, that page is just very poorly worded.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Snow Job posted:

3. Doesn't deserve to die. :(

He embarrassed me at my job in front of my king.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Are the DLC's just $3.95 "Here is a new woman with completely unique animations for an all new sex scene?"

Because I would hope the game offers a semen pass then so I can grab them all on the cheap.

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Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Those chops better make release.

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