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 Warning: if you ever intend to play Choice of the Dragon, this would be a good time to leave this thread. I am going to dissect this game and leave it bleeding on the table. Thank you. Choice of the Dragon by Dan Fabulich posted:Let us begin. Our stat block posted:
Choice of Games is an outfit that produces a number of different choose-your-own-adventure style games using their own engine, which they make freely available to people who want to write their own. They also encourage people who think they've written something good to submit their games to them for sale as apps or through Steam for a couple of bucks. Some of their games are pretty good, like 'Choice of the Deathless', which I LPed not once but twice just recently. Some are... not so good. (Not naming names here, but they know who they are.) In this LP, we're going to be taking a look at the very first 'Choice Of' game, and one that's still available for free at their website (though you can buy it as an app if you really want to): Choice of the Dragon. But we're not going to be playing it straight. Thanks to a poster in my second LP thread for 'Choice of the Deathless', I've learned how to access the source for this game. With it, I will guide us to ultimate victory in every respect. How to define that? Simple: we're going to aim to get every achievement in the game. Here's the list:
Goofus the Dragon's sole purpose in life is to fail. I will guide it as poorly as possible through the game, getting it killed at every opportunity, only to rewind time just enough for it to limp to the finish. It'll be the one to get us the two achievements for dying in specific ways. The other two dragons we make will be minmaxing their stats, but in completely different ways. If you take a look at the stat block, you'll note that six of our dragon's stats are paired. Raising one stat in a pair lowers the other an equal amount. One of these two dragons will raise Brutality, the other Finesse. Cunning/Honor and Disdain/Vigilance will be divided likewise. So what puts the let's in 'Let's Play', you may ask? Three different things. First, any time we reach a choice where success is equally possible more than one way, I'll ask you what you want to do, and the majority will rule. Second, when we reach a choice where failure is an option, I will again ask you what you want to do, but this time I'll be scoring you. Anyone who gives the correct answer will get a point; anyone who gives an incorrect answer will lose a point. Whoever has the highest score at the end of the story will win a Fabulous Prize!* The third and most immediately important way you can contribute, though, is this. As previously mentioned, one of our dragons will be trying to maximize Brutality. But what other two stats should it be attempting to maximize? Vote either Cunning or Honor and either Disdain or Vigilance. The other dragon will raise Finesse and the two stats that are not selected. As this choice will determine the correct choices for much of the rest of the LP, I'm giving everyone until Wednesday morning, whenever I get out of bed, to make their preferences known! *Prize may not be as fabulous as advertised.
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Also, for convenience's sake (though the story won't ask us these questions just yet), suggest a male dragon's name, a female dragon's name, and whether the Brutality-focused dragon should be male or female. (The Finesse-focused dragon will be the other gender, and poor Goofus will be neuter.)
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Feb 2, 2015 09:45
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There has to be a Gallant the Dragon.
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Feb 2, 2015 09:46
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Oh, what the heck. I will also accept suggestions for the neuter dragon's name. Goofus is okay, but maybe you can do better.
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Feb 2, 2015 09:54
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Male dragon's name: Smaug Female dragon's name: Smauga Brutality-focused dragon: Male Neuter: Goofus I suck at naming things.
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Feb 2, 2015 10:55
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FredMSloniker posted:Oh, what the heck. I will also accept suggestions for the neuter dragon's name. Goofus is okay, but maybe you can do better. Tumblroth, and there had better be special pronouns for that.   
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Feb 2, 2015 11:26
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Male dragon's name: DragKing Female dragon's name: DragQueen Brutality-focused dragon: Female Stat Combos: Brutality + Honour + Disdain Finesse + Cunning + Vigilance (I was trying to find the combos which sounded most internally inconsistent).
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Feb 2, 2015 11:56
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Sidetracking the thread a bit: I didn't make it in time in the last Choice of the Deathless thread to thank you for the Let's Play, so thank you!  Darth TNT posted:Male dragon's name: Smaug No you don't these are hilarious and have my vote.Also Honour+Vigilance
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Feb 2, 2015 14:36
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FredMSloniker posted:The third and most immediately important way you can contribute, though, is this. As previously mentioned, one of our dragons will be trying to maximize Brutality. But what other two stats should it be attempting to maximize? Vote either Cunning or Honor and either Disdain or Vigilance. The other dragon will raise Finesse and the two stats that are not selected. Idea. Straight to names. Our brute is named Rathalos, our finesse-y wyvern is Rathian and our poor doofus is some unholy flightless thing with way too many limbs which may not all be legs named... Anticheese posted:Tumblroth, and there had better be special pronouns for that.
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Feb 2, 2015 14:50
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mycot posted:There has to be a Gallant the Dragon. Gallant the Male dragon, known for his Brutal Cunning and Disdain
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Feb 2, 2015 14:54
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Exhuming the classics now, eh? This'll be a fun trip, I imagine. I'm worse at naming things than that other person who said they're bad at naming things, though, so I'll hold my votes until we get going.
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Feb 2, 2015 15:52
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Well if we're doing bad namings then we can't go much worse than Draco for the male, ala the movie Dragonheart. It's just so lacking in imagination. For the female... Well if I'm going with movie references Falkor will work just fine. And as for poor Doofus, he can be Puff the magic wonder dragon. Because, god knows, only magic can save him now. Draco can be the Brutal one, maxing also Cunning and Disdain. Falkor can be full of Finesse, focused on Honour and Vigilance.
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Feb 2, 2015 16:05
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Feb 2, 2015 19:09
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Surely we have to have Gork, the dragon of Brutal Cunning. (Not to be confused with Mork, the dragon of cunning brutality.)
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Feb 2, 2015 19:48
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inflatablefish posted:Surely we have to have Gork, the dragon of Brutal Cunning. (Not to be confused with Mork, the dragon of cunning brutality.) Is Gork a male or female name? And what about Disdain versus Vigilance? e: also changed how I'm counting votes. It doesn't matter now, but it might later. FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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Feb 2, 2015 20:04
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Male, brutal, cunning, disdain. Female, finesse, honor, vigilance. Neuter, generally incompetent. I'm bad at names but nominate the neuter dragon to be named Fluffy.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:15
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inflatablefish posted:Surely we have to have Gork, the dragon of Brutal Cunning. (Not to be confused with Mork, the dragon of cunning brutality.) This is too good to be ignored. JohnOfOrdo3 posted:Draco can be the Brutal one, maxing also Cunning and Disdain. Voting for this, except the male dragon's name is Gork instead.
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Feb 3, 2015 05:29
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Feb 3, 2015 05:49
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Gork the disdainful male cunning brute. Smauga and Goofus for the female and neuter respectively.
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Feb 3, 2015 05:55
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Male: Punpun, Brutal, Cunning, Disdain Female: DragQueen, the other stuffs Neuter: Lowtax
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Feb 3, 2015 05:57
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jon joe posted:Neuter: Lowtax Are you sure calling a Neuter Lowtax is a good idea? It would be a shame if something happened to your account... I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Feb 3, 2015 17:48
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Stephen9001 posted:Are you sure calling a Neuter Lowtax is a good idea? It would be a shame if something happened to your account... Why would neuter be an insult?
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Feb 3, 2015 18:24
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the JJ posted:Why would neuter be an insult? I'd be worried less about 'neuter' and more about 'utter incompetent', given that's what the neuter dragon is going to be.  The tally so far:
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Feb 3, 2015 22:55
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Dragons are like snakes, right? Call the male one Solid and the loser Liquid and the female, um, Quiet.
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Feb 3, 2015 23:45
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Brutality dragon should be vigilant He's all pumped from the dragon gym and looking for a fight.
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Feb 4, 2015 00:18
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I'm gonna go ahead and call it early. Our dragons will be Gork, a male dragon focusing on Brutality, Cunning, and Disdain; Falkor, a female dragon focusing on Finesse, Honor, and Vigilance; and Fluffy, a neuter dragon who's terrible at everything. With that in mind, let's get started. The plan is to play through each scene of the game once with either Gork or Falkor, then again with the other, and show a highlight reel (if any highlights exist) for Fluffy. I've flipped a coin and determined that we'll play through each scene first with Falkor. Choice of the Dragon by Dan Fabulich posted:Let us begin. Falkor's stat block posted:
Only one option here is the correct one for Falkor. I'll give you 24 hours to find it and get on the scoreboard. FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 07:56
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Okay, let's see: We have four options, but we know that only one of them matches up with Finesse, Honor, or Vigilance. Let's see... I'd imagine "tear him to pieces" would be Brutality? And I'm guessing "just torch him" would be Disdain, so... It's between flying (which could conceivably be Vigilance or Cunning), and "slap him off the horse", which... might be Finesse? ...I'll go with the tail. Tail whip is clearly the right answer! After all, we're early on in the game when Tail Whip actually seems vaguely useful. Crepuscule Adepte fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 08:17
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Tail whip without touching the horse requires finesse.
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Feb 4, 2015 08:25
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Take to the skies. I have some sort of half recollection that knocking the knight off his horse is 'disdain'. I don't think I ever really played this, but the intro scene was somewhat used as a tutorial for using Choicescript. But it's been quite some time since I even looked at that stuff. And I can't remember what the fire breath is. Cunning?
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Feb 4, 2015 08:42
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I figure slapping someone off a moving object with something at the back of your body needs coordination. Also, she's a girl dragon and they slap people before eating them. Slap the fool off his horse.
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Feb 4, 2015 09:06
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Fly, Falkor!
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Feb 4, 2015 09:46
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It's gotta be flight.
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Feb 4, 2015 11:11
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Flight is Finesses And hey - thanks for doing this. I've played this and read LPs, and I'm pretty sure there are some things that are easy to miss. If I finally get to see the dragon get it on with another dragon, I can die happy.
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Feb 4, 2015 11:46
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Take to the skies!
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Feb 4, 2015 12:35
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It's gotta be flying! I hope...
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Feb 4, 2015 16:14
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Arcturas posted:It's gotta be flying! I hope... Flying seems a little too disdain. Whip it real good? I bet some of these are double choices. Brutal/disdain for the just torch him, finess/disdain for flying away, that sort of thing.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:53
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Flight seems like the safest choice here.
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Feb 4, 2015 23:41
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Fly away finessily.
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Feb 5, 2015 03:59
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Fly away!
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Time to tabulate the scores! Who made the call, and who blew it?Choice of the Dragon by Dan Fabulich posted:Let us begin. Let me explain how stat changes work. In the code, you will see, for instance, '*set brutality %+10'. This operator, which is frequently used in 'Choice Of' games, allows you to add to a stat without accidentally overflowing the percentile scale. This specific example would add ten percent of the remaining distance to 100% to Brutality. For instance, if we had 60% Brutality, we would have 40% to go, and so we would add (40% * 10%) = 4% to Brutality. Finesse, Honor, and Vigilance are implemented by subtracting from Brutality, Cunning, and Disdain respectively; the command used in the correct choice is actually '*set brutality %-10'. It works the same way, but in reverse, removing that percentage of the stat. (If our Brutality were 60%, it would decrease by (60% * 10%) = 6%.) It's easy to raise a stat when it's low and easy to lower it when it's high. Which means we'll have to be careful developing our dragons to be consistent in our choices; one wrong choice can wipe out several choices' worth of progress. Also of note: while Infamy is not an opposed stat, gains and losses use the same function. Anyway. We actually gained 5% Finesse (or lost 5% Brutality, whichever). Let's look at how. Scene 1: Prologue posted:You leap to the air, deftly avoiding the knight's thrust. Now that you are in the air, he hardly poses any threat at all--not that he ever posed much of one to you. You circle back and knock him off his horse with a swipe of your claw. Falkor's stat block posted:
Scoreboard posted:
Once again, there is a single correct choice for Falkor. You have 24 hours to find it. e: You snuck under the buzzer, enahs! Next time maybe not leave it so close.
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