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theadder
Dec 30, 2011


the most qualified among us

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LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
shaggar doesn't even match up to the likeness of echinopsis

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
a bachelor of pharmacy. it means i know how tablets stick together, and arguably more importantly, what makes them fall apart


unblock nose. psuedoepherdrine is a bit of a gold standard but oxymetazoline/xylometazoline/naphozoline nasal sprays work very well but can only be taken for like 3-5 days at t atime

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
why do you need a bachelor of pharmacy to make an ipad?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
:hurr:

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

echinopsis posted:

a bachelor of pharmacy. it means i know how tablets stick together, and arguably more importantly, what makes them fall apart


unblock nose. psuedoepherdrine is a bit of a gold standard but oxymetazoline/xylometazoline/naphozoline nasal sprays work very well but can only be taken for like 3-5 days at t atime

Afrin? good stuff but ya what u said. I take Flonase every day instead

yeH pseudo owns a lot for real

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
those decongestants and steroid nasal sprays are quite different though. if someone has a cold flonase isn't really a rememdy. but yes more people should take advantage of fluticasone nasal spray and inhalers


its 100% metabolised first pass so it only works were you put it and metabolised right away so u get no systtemic effects while getting local effects. means you're uysing mcg not mg to treat

Bob Moog sex tape
Aug 26, 2004

piercings are more like casemodding your meat computer

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

echinopsis posted:

g mcg not mg to treat

r these micro grams vs miligrams ????????????????????????????

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
what's the deal with snot anyway, isn't it one of your idiot body's ways of pushing germs away from your brain? so what happens when you take drugs that stop it happening

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

should i drink my own piss?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Smythe posted:

r these micro grams vs miligrams ????????????????????????????

great success

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

BONGHITZ posted:

should i drink my own piss?

yes, op

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

here's a question: what do you think op stands for?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

here's a question: what do you think op stands for?

it's idiomatic you fuckwit

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

Captain Foo posted:

it's idiomatic you fuckwit

maybe to you

Flat Daddy
Dec 3, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
:siren: please don't waste your piss by sending it to an inanimate object :siren:

I want to be your toilet

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

echinopsis posted:

those decongestants and steroid nasal sprays are quite different though. if someone has a cold flonase isn't really a rememdy. but yes more people should take advantage of fluticasone nasal spray and inhalers


its 100% metabolised first pass so it only works were you put it and metabolised right away so u get no systtemic effects while getting local effects. means you're uysing mcg not mg to treat

hmm yeah maybe one day theyll make a fluticasone generic inhaler in the states. lol.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
with salmeterol i guess? idk. advair.


we dont even have generic albuterol anymore for gently caress's sake

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

quote:

Here's the short version of the story: as Saunders says, albuterol is a cheap medication because it went off patent long ago. Then, a few years ago, as part of the campaign to eliminate CFCs and save the ozone layer, CFC-based inhalers were set to be banned. Pharmaceutical companies took advantage of this to design new delivery systems and surround them with a thicket of patents. As a result, even though albuterol itself might be off patent, only name-brand asthma inhalers are available—and since there's now no generic competition the big pharmaceutical companies are free to jack up prices to their heart's content. And they have. After all, as Rosenthal points out, this isn't like acne medicine that you can do without if it costs too much. If you have asthma, you need an inhaler, period.


drug companies are good tho


quote:

Well, the ozone layer was the initial cause of all this, so feel free to place some of the blame on environmentalists if you like. But as it turns out, scientists raised some early concerns about the inhaler ban because the replacement for CFCs was a powerful greenhouse gas. So they suggested that maybe it was better just to make an exception for asthma inhalers and let well enough alone. At that point, the pharmaceutical companies that had been eagerly waiting for the old inhalers to be banned went on the offensive. Nick Baumann picks up the story from there:

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

isn't tylenol basically only legal as a legacy

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

PuTTY riot posted:

hmm yeah maybe one day theyll make a fluticasone generic inhaler in the states. lol.

it's out now, i have some

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

yes it is called Imiquimod

never heard of that being used for fungus interteesting
and wrong

PuTTY riot posted:

with salmeterol i guess? idk. advair.


we dont even have generic albuterol anymore for gently caress's sake


wtf is wrong with you guys lol (americans)

PuTTY riot posted:

hmm yeah maybe one day theyll make a fluticasone generic inhaler in the states. lol.

we dont even have them. our govt pauys $14 for a 125mcg inhaler


how much do u guys pay for those things


Captain Foo posted:

isn't tylenol basically only legal as a legacy

except in liver failure or overdose tylenol is really safe and moderately effective and interacts with nothing so.. useful as an adjunct to reduce ther dosages of everything else

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
the trans pacific partnership is going to destroy us when it makes us pay more for drugs

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
lemme log in and see how much my insurance pays for my asthma meds

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
its not even a generic one thats that cheap either

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

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echinopsis posted:

wtf is wrong with you guys lol (americans)

i'm actually really mad about that but I haven't had asthma symptoms for a while at least

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
great to hear :)

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
here u go OP

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
i like the generic singulair thats $174 without insurance or $11 with

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
jesus christ its not surprising they hate our system

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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looooook at that fffffffffFUCKING advair

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Inhaled Beta-Adrenoceptor Agonists


Section B - Therapeutic Groups
TG1 - Respiratory System and Allergies
TG2 - Beta-Adrenoceptor Agonists
TG3 - Inhaled Beta-Adrenoceptor Agoni...
Salbutamol
Aerosol inhaler, 100 mcg per dose CFC free - Up to 1000 dose available on a PSO
Ventolin 2026414 $3.80
($6.00) per 200 dose OP
TICK Salamol 2179350 $3.80 per 200 dose OP
TICK Respigen 2272911 $3.80 per 200 dose OP


our govt funds $3.80 for each albuterol (salbuterol) inhaler. if someone wants ventolin they get that same funding but they need to pay an extra $4.20 or so

still though. $54 dollars vs like $8

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

Jonny 290 posted:

looooook at that fffffffffFUCKING advair

its actually really wonderful medicine :smith:

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

echinopsis posted:

Inhaled Beta-Adrenoceptor Agonists


Section B - Therapeutic Groups
TG1 - Respiratory System and Allergies
TG2 - Beta-Adrenoceptor Agonists
TG3 - Inhaled Beta-Adrenoceptor Agoni...
Salbutamol
Aerosol inhaler, 100 mcg per dose CFC free - Up to 1000 dose available on a PSO
Ventolin 2026414 $3.80
($6.00) per 200 dose OP
TICK Salamol 2179350 $3.80 per 200 dose OP
TICK Respigen 2272911 $3.80 per 200 dose OP


our govt funds $3.80 for each albuterol (salbuterol) inhaler. if someone wants ventolin they get that same funding but they need to pay an extra $4.20 or so

still though. $54 dollars vs like $8

ya i was paying $5-10 copay for a generic inhaler before the CFC poo poo

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
IMO the CFC ones that kill the ozone layer work better cause it felt like they go deeper into ur lungs also i think the mist was finer*


*the FDA does not agree w/ me

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jonny 290 posted:

looooook at that fffffffffFUCKING advair

is that a standard inhaler or an accuhaler? accuhalers cost more to make


Aerosol inhaler 125 mcg with salmeterol 25 mcg
TICK Seretide 2120208 $49.69 per 120 dose OP

our govt still pays $49.69 per each 125mcg seretide, which is still shitloads


still a fuckin difference from $300+

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



i was writing a real lf poast but I'll just go with the ol standby

gently caress the us

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

echinopsis posted:

is that a standard inhaler or an accuhaler? accuhalers cost more to make


Aerosol inhaler 125 mcg with salmeterol 25 mcg
TICK Seretide 2120208 $49.69 per 120 dose OP

our govt still pays $49.69 per each 125mcg seretide, which is still shitloads


still a fuckin difference from $300+

its the diskus or w/e... the dry powder one where u cock it and then deep inhale. not aerosolized.

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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PuTTY riot posted:

its actually really wonderful medicine :smith:

I know. mrs is on it.

she's got another cheapo one too though

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