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they moved the guy that gives you the stone mask to the middle of the loving pirate fortress. why
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 14:18 |
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MarioTeachesWiping posted:it's completely different. it's no longer a garish looking executioner hood. it's like this purple cap with a golden beak face disgusting also found out they changed the blast mask so that it doesn't go transparent and fade back to black when it's recharging, also hosed up imo. at least you can still shield yourself from the damage still, but this is some scrub tier attention to detail, nice job grezzo MarioTeachesWiping posted:they moved the guy that gives you the stone mask to the middle of the loving pirate fortress. why i guess that's to prevent cheesing it like you could before but also completely removes the point of why the guy's story is sad in the first place, what the gently caress also now that i've done it i can confidently say that the changes to goht's fight don't ruin it, they just make it a little more tedious. like it's a little bit easier because of the track being more even and better lit, but there's honestly just no reason to have added an out-of-goron part of it, let alone that being the part you have to repeat, because you're still doing the exact same thing as you did in the original, just with an added step for no particular reason. i feel like odolwa's fight just being completely redesigned was much worse
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 14:28 |
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I have really mixed feelings about this remake so far because so far it seems that all of the quality of life improvements have been about things that maybe a handful of people complained about when playing it, but aren't really actually useful when playing the game. Like, the song of soaring warp menu is on the top screen when you could've made it have the same circle pad functionality but with touch screen compatibility too. The mask menu could have also just been something that you pop up and click on a mask to equip/unequip it instead of having to assign it to an item slot. Then you have stuff like having to drag items into the I and II item slots instead of tapping it then tapping the slot, which is obnoxious if you don't have the stylus out, which you have no reason to in an action adventure game. Like, the trade items being semi-automatic is good, and the new bomber's notebook is nice (even if it should be way less intrusive when it updates), as well as all sorts of other things, but it still manages to feel kind of half-assed which is amazing because they took three times as long to remake it as it took to make it. The Iwata Asks about it explains that as being an effect of the new 3ds being introduced partway through development and also having way more stamina for insane work hours when everyone was fifteen years younger, but it's still really striking how little a lot of the adjustments added up to be. e: i just noticed that goht's death cutscene has him running at full speed and crashing into stuff even though the only way you can hurt him is when he's knocked down......... Heavy Lobster fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Feb 14, 2015 |
# ? Feb 14, 2015 14:39 |
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The new bomber's notebook sucks complete rear end.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 18:43 |
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I'm impressed the designers of this remake actively decided to make a Zelda game even easier for some reason.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 18:44 |
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Curiosity shop bottle duplication still works lol, 1 trip pirates fortress is so nice.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 18:44 |
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if they moved the stone mask to the pirate fortress that's a good thing. before you could get it without even entering the first dungeon and cheese huge chunks of the game, including the pirate's fortress which was just "lmao why in the gently caress would i do this without the stone mask"
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:05 |
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Bobnumerotres posted:if they moved the stone mask to the pirate fortress that's a good thing. before you could get it without even entering the first dungeon and cheese huge chunks of the game, including the pirate's fortress which was just "lmao why in the gently caress would i do this without the stone mask" That was good.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:09 |
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dat eshop theme
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:30 |
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Yeah I'm not super happy with this so far and it really seems like they neutered a bunch of the more creepy stuff . It's fun to see the game with updated graphics but I think I'll stick to the original for any future replays.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:32 |
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YIKES Stay Gooned posted:That was good. it was convenient for sure but it kind of made me ask why they put a really easy to obtain mask that let me neutralize a big part of the game way before i even reached that part
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:33 |
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Bobnumerotres posted:it was convenient for sure but it kind of made me ask why they put a really easy to obtain mask that let me neutralize a big part of the game way before i even reached that part Because it's funny to walk around the pirate fortress with the stone mask hucking deku nuts at asses, and the mask is optional. So you don't have to cheese it if you don't want
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 19:40 |
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Bobnumerotres posted:if they moved the stone mask to the pirate fortress that's a good thing. before you could get it without even entering the first dungeon and cheese huge chunks of the game, including the pirate's fortress which was just "lmao why in the gently caress would i do this without the stone mask" Wait really? I thought you needed Epona to get into Ikana
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 20:46 |
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Got home and it was sitting in my mail slot. It's time to game, baby.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 21:41 |
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Looper posted:Wait really? I thought you needed Epona to get into Ikana well i was wrong, you need the lens of truth to get it which means you're at least pre-snowhead temple. you don't need the horse for the area the dude was sitting in, but to actually get into ikana you needed the hookshot and ice arrows
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 21:44 |
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darealkooky posted:lol you can only use ice arrows to freeze specific parts of the water, why would they even change that [in barry burton voice:] WHAT. What is this?!
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 21:59 |
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The tweaks to odawala are cool and making me wish that they had done a master quest type remake as an option to mix up the dungeons but don't change anything else.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:00 |
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darealkooky posted:lol you can only use ice arrows to freeze specific parts of the water, why would they even change that Probably to fix the trick where you can get the infinite magic bar and use ice arrows to get to the water temple
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:00 |
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oh, what's the postgame mode in this one? just double damage? windwaker-style hero mode with double damage and no heals?
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:06 |
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maaan, i don't know about this remake. it's kind of hosed up
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:16 |
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[Reggie walks up, in gravelly Batman voice:] "Beautiful, isn't it" [Me, looking at the 3DS:] This.. is wrong
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:19 |
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Should I get this game? never played it or the other full 3D entries.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:45 |
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asvodel posted:Should I get this game? never played it or the other full 3D entries. save yourself some money and download n64 MM from the e-shop
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:48 |
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alright, the redesigned Gyorg fight was pretty good
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:49 |
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BestBuy is still having that price fuckery with the giftcards so you may wind up paying 30 bucks for MM/MH4U and they'll give you a 10 dollar giftcard still
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 22:56 |
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if you're ever not sure of where to go next you can make link crawl into a hole to think about it like a loving animal
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 23:29 |
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Heavy Lobster posted:also noticed that they changed the location of a few of the fairy sprites in dungeons, stuck out in woodfall how the one that's underwater under the walkway is now like in a pot or something. still gotta equip the mask instead of having a stone of truth style thing to attract/detect them too Get ready for Snowhead then, while Woodfall had easier fairies the faeries in Snowhead can eat a bag of dicks for how obtuse some of them are. Also whoever said Goht was worse what the hell are you talking about? If you use the proper arrows it takes 10 hits and the battle is maybe half as long as I remember just 4 quick stuns.
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# ? Feb 14, 2015 23:34 |
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_Endgame_ posted:Get ready for Snowhead then, while Woodfall had easier fairies the faeries in Snowhead can eat a bag of dicks for how obtuse some of them are. Also whoever said Goht was worse what the hell are you talking about? If you use the proper arrows it takes 10 hits and the battle is maybe half as long as I remember just 4 quick stuns. why on loving earth would anyone use arrows on goht.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:01 |
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hm i could have a cool and badass boss fight rolling around like a motherfucker or i could sit here like a loving dingus and take potshots all day. hmmmmmmm
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:02 |
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Soral posted:hm i could have a cool and badass boss fight rolling around like a motherfucker or i could sit here like a loving dingus and take potshots all day. hmmmmmmm there are people who just don't play zelda correctly and i feel sorry for them tbh
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:03 |
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the improved graphics really sell it when goron link punches a red bubble's jaw off
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:23 |
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Soral posted:hm i could have a cool and badass boss fight rolling around like a motherfucker or i could sit here like a loving dingus and take potshots all day. hmmmmmmm You still roll around like a motherfucker to stun him? Oh no I gotta take 5 second to shoot 3 fire arrows oh no. Overall it's shorter and less bullshit happens so w/e.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:34 |
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I thought the upgraded graphics were nice at first but honestly all I wanted was the original with a better save system, better mask switching and a good frame rate. Everything else was basically perfect and I'm not a big fan of the changes so far...
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 00:54 |
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Yeah, this is the first time I can pretty confidently say I would've just been happier with a port than with a remake. Even then though, I've been looking at screenshots from the N64 version honestly it kinda looks better because mm3ds cut out pretty much the entire lighting engine and replaced it with the bad oot one. mm64 has a lot of really hard shadows cast on everything and there's a lot of light and dark contrast but mm3ds just... doesn't. It's higher fidelity but it missed a lot of the art direction that made mm moody to begin with
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 01:45 |
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Agreed with the above posts. Most of the changes aside from the more efficient time skipping and expanded notebook are just bunk, and the upgraded visuals are nice in places but don't add much. I was sure this'd be great after the work done on the previous Zelda remakes, but eh.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 01:51 |
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Heavy Lobster posted:Yeah, this is the first time I can pretty confidently say I would've just been happier with a port than with a remake. Even then though, I've been looking at screenshots from the N64 version honestly it kinda looks better because mm3ds cut out pretty much the entire lighting engine and replaced it with the bad oot one. mm64 has a lot of really hard shadows cast on everything and there's a lot of light and dark contrast but mm3ds just... doesn't. It's higher fidelity but it missed a lot of the art direction that made mm moody to begin with Exactly. It looks super cartoonish now and it just doesn't fit.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 01:57 |
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MarioTeachesWiping posted:the troupe leader's mask doesn't leak tears anymore. what is this Oh looks Tail's rear end in a top hat moron is a huge loving liar again. The mask is crying like a big baby you stupid ijit.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 02:24 |
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_Endgame_ posted:Oh looks Tail's rear end in a top hat moron is a huge loving liar again. The mask is crying like a big baby you stupid ijit. maybe it only does it on the higher processing power of the new 3ds lol
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 03:21 |
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MarioTeachesWiping posted:maybe it only does it on the higher processing power of the new 3ds lol Nah son, I am playing on a standard 3DS, not even an XL because I was cheap then.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 04:16 |
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# ? May 3, 2024 07:37 |
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I picked this game up and best buy and the instone online pick up trans lady said majoras mask...nice!
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