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Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
In the synth thread forum user Sjoewe came up with a really good idea for a challenge, to score a silent movie.

So this thread is here as a place for us to carry out that idea, mostly starting it to alleviate clutter from the synth thread.

The obvious first step is to pick a silent movie to score. The only two real considerations are that it be in the public domain (used to be 50 years since production until Mickey Mouse turned 50, now I think it's 75 years unless it's owned by Disney) and that it be a relatively short one realer, like 20 or 30 minutes tops.

The next thing to do would be for some brave soul to watch it and divide it up into timed incidents.

Then we'd call dibs on which sections we wanted to musicify.

Then someone would paste the whole loving thing together.

So, this is a thread to do these things and answer questions like "how do I get video into my daw?", "what does SMPTE stand for?", "does anyone have a good library of goong samples?", "HALP I CANNOT MAKE A MUSIC WITHOUT A DRUMBEAT IN THE BACKGROUND!" and stuff like that.

So get crackin' and start throwing out good potential movies.

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Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
this spot reserved for the handicapped

Radiapathy
Dec 3, 2011

Snooping as usual, I see.
The Call of Cthulhu is a silent movie that's only 47 minutes long. Perfect album length.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Radiapathy posted:

The Call of Cthulhu is a silent movie that's only 47 minutes long. Perfect album length.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/

Not to concern troll but where can you even get this movie?

Radiapathy
Dec 3, 2011

Snooping as usual, I see.

A MIRACLE posted:

Not to concern troll but where can you even get this movie?
I actually bought the DVD on Amazon, but you raise a fair point. There appears to be a site that claims to have it for streaming (fulltv.tv) but "free account required", so I dunno.

VoodooXT
Feb 24, 2006
I want Tong Po! Give me Tong Po!

Radiapathy posted:

The Call of Cthulhu is a silent movie that's only 47 minutes long. Perfect album length.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/

Another issue I'd like to bring up is that despite the story "The Call of Cthulhu" being in the public domain, the silent movie is not.

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006
I'm in, this would be fun

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Would Le Voyage dans la Lune be too cliche?

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien

Radiapathy posted:

The Call of Cthulhu is a silent movie that's only 47 minutes long. Perfect album length.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/

Too long. You're not looking at making, like, 2-5 minute songs, you're looking at making a whole bunch of, like, 20 second to 2 minute long cues.

e: also that was made in, like, 2006

Sizone fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Feb 20, 2015

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Something old school sci-fi would be neat but I'm a synth nerd. I know nothing about movies.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien

Tayter Swift posted:

Would Le Voyage dans la Lune be too cliche?

As long as we don't inadvertently summon Billy Corrigan

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/silent-science-fiction/137304/the-10-best-silent-era-sci-fi-films

hail satan



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRZwYsPuyTc

Sjoewe
Nov 30, 2008
How about a twist. A little something to warm us all up, we pick one scene freely available on the tube and we all make a score to that scene?
Would be nice to see the different takes on the same material.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Sounds good. Will give everyone an early chance to see how poorly video integrates into their setups. Wanna be a champ, pick a scene and upload an .avi or an .mp4 or something of to a file share?

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Might I suggest choosing from a central library like archive.org? Lots to choose from and multiple format downloads. Tons of it is government stuff and public domain.

Sjoewe
Nov 30, 2008
I've found a HD version of the opening scene of Metropolis, there are already a fuckton of scores for that scene, which might be good to use as reference for us Hans Zimmer wannabe's.

Let's take april fools as a deadline?
http://www.filedropper.com/score-a-scenemetropolismp4

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Sjoewe posted:

How about a twist. A little something to warm us all up, we pick one scene freely available on the tube and we all make a score to that scene?
Would be nice to see the different takes on the same material.

That's actually a good idea as well.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.
I'm in for the warm-up. I've got no background in the video side but I've been meaning to try this sort of thing.

Too bad it's not a silent so we'd lose the film audio but (the original print of) Night of the Living Dead is public domain because they forgot to add the copyright notice when they re-titled it.

SineRider
Oct 10, 2012

Come on die young
This sounds great, I'm in

Whale Cancer
Jun 25, 2004

This sounds interesting, count me in.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
I've been working on some more soundtrack-y stuff lately so I guess this is right up my alley. Don't think I've ever watched a silent movie though, so I don't really have a reference point :(

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

I'm definitely in, will begin work as soon as a clip is nailed down.

Also, as someone who works in Renoise, is there any option for me for syncing? Is there like a vat that will play a video in start/stop sync?

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
I'm definitely interested. I'd vote against Voyage Dans la Lune or Metropolis just because they both seem really obvious and the first one at least has been done a number of times.

There are Youtube channels devoted to public domain movies, if that helps.

e.g., https://www.youtube.com/user/BestPDMovies

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
We can do Melies' non-union equivalent, Segundo de Chomon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoNBThYCA04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_xUodu6fB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_YErkEt40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK-meBbHUVE

Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 21, 2015

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Anyone got any good slaughterhouse samples? Figured it would be nice to put in the background for the metropolis clip when the workers start entering the factory. A Meatropolis as it were.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
I'm using reaper. Is there a pluggin I can plug in to make the video preview a frame by frame thing like Vegas does?

Whale Cancer
Jun 25, 2004

We should definitely do something horror. Someone find a good clip please.

Rotten Cookies
Nov 11, 2008

gosh! i like both the islanders and the rangers!!! :^)

Whale Cancer posted:

We should definitely do something horror. Someone find a good clip please.

Nosferatu is public domain, right?


E: poo poo, that's still like an hour and twenty. We want clips, yeah?

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Anyone work out what software would work for this? Tried Reaper, the video render doesn't do key frames. Sync would be do-able, but only if I were a much better musicinan.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Sizone posted:

Anyone work out what software would work for this? Tried Reaper, the video render doesn't do key frames. Sync would be do-able, but only if I were a much better musicinan.

I've only used Pro Tools for scoring. Haven't tried Ableton or anything yet.

Max/MSP would probably be good too.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Finally hit on something workable last night. The crippled consumer version of Soundforge works pretty o.k., shows keyframes with a fine enough grain and displays video in such a way that I can handle syncing audio with it. Trade off is that there's only one stereo track so stems, nondestructive editing and all the other accoutrements of proper multitracking are absent. Working on the metropolis intro warm up using littlebits and an ipad. Should actually be finished with it in anothr two weeks.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.
I've got a song underway, but there's no way I'm going to have it going for April 1 sadly. I'll keep at it and submit it. Basically I have the main portion of the scene, but I want to transition into it, and I've yet to hit that sound that works for it.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
I've been hard at work on mine all day. I think it's approaching a state that might reasonably be called "finished", but I'm going to let it ferment overnight and listen to it in the morning with fresh ears before I upload anything. The film I'm scoring is Segundo de Chomon's "Scarabe d'Or".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iwg701cp9k

I'd never actually listened to the original soundtrack, but now that I have it's funny that there are some vague similarities. Piano and violin, minor key, etc.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
All righty then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=118P7kd4V18

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
P good for someone who doesn't get Download. Software you use? Just bitwig?

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Thanks! That was in Logic. Would've loved to use Bitwig but it doesn't do video yet. For sounds it was some Kontakt, some BFD, and some FM8.

I started a couple of other Chomon things, but wasn't too pleased with either of them. I may take another stab at them in a few days.

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Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Warm up on the intro to Metropolis. Real minimal, littlebits and orphion on the ipad (fed through littlebits).
Really wanted to get this out of the way so I could start on something for reals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhSkVgYjGPQ

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Nice!

Anyway, I made another one because hey why not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og002aFZRlc

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Man, Trig Disc., make more of these. Yours come out super well.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Thanks! I'm traveling for the next month though. I have my computer with me, but am unlikely to have much time.

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dawio
Jun 1, 2004

We actually did one of these a few years back!

I'm not in a position to find the original thread but here's the final product:

https://youtu.be/FdI-fSWN5KE

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