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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008


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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Glass of Milk posted:

Somehow all of this is going to result in the Raiders moving to San Diego and I will not be happy.

That would be a worse outcome than even san antonio

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

old dog child posted:

Ideal world: Rams in LA, Chargers in SD, the Raiders roam the land as Raiders burning stadiums for a week at a time

I can get behind this.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Did the chargers do any.teachung out to oher cities other than LA like Davis did with San Antonio?

My swami prediction: Rams and chargers get the ok to.move to LA. Raiders get told no and they remain at the coliseum under 1 year deals until the A's move to jack London square.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

weakness posted:

As someone who lives in Jack London Square, what is this?! I don't know if you're joking but there's no room here for a stadium. Blowing my mind, if true.

Howard terminal is one of the proposed sites for the A's.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_29307899/oakland-pitches-stadium-sites

Really though, both the A's snd the raiders want sole control over the coliseum site and are elbowing each other for it. The A's have the advantage in that they signed a ten year contract for it while the raiders have been on one year deals.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Spoeank posted:

Can't wait to see Jeff Fisher go 8 and 8 in LA. Or as they call it, the 8 and the 8.

Totally not empty quoting so I can give this more love.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Ross Angeles posted:

Also I really doubt that the 550 million dollar relocation fee is gonna be one big lump sum. It'll probably be paid off over 20 years. Every NFL owners gets like 190 million dollars a year just for TV revenue, so let's not pretend like Mark Davis is in poverty.

While we're talking about this, remember davis offered to put up $500M for a stadium in oakland. The League has this kind of money. It could float bonds for new stadiums, it just sets a bad precedent when they're trying to squeeze the same money free out of the taxpayer.

I love football as a sport, but gently caress it so hard as a business.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

It was impression that LA fans were pretty fairweather. Weren't the Raiders playing in an empty stadium before they moved back up?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Yudo posted:

Walker did the Bucks owners a solid by helping to shift $250 million cut from the Wisconsin University system to fund the new arena.

Empty quoting to let this sink in. Public financing of professional sports facilities literally takes money out of education. I love my Raiders, but gently caress no should any more public money go to that team. You guys are rich. Figure that poo poo out.

Bootstraps, son!

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Volkerball posted:

I believe so, and Davis really does want to stay in Oakland. It's not a matter of attendance or anything like that. When the Raiders were good in Oakland, they were profitable.

I had not read anywhere that even at the depths of this past decade they were losing money.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Volkerball posted:

Well no, but it's not about not losing money, it's about being profitable. They've flirted with the 30's in team rankings at times in that miserable decade after Gruden left. But for instance, in 2001 and 2002 they were up around the top 5 in selling out. They have shown they can not just get by, but thrive.

Maybe I have to dust off my textbooks but not losing money and being profitable are the same thing. Maybe you mean a difference in degree. Just being at the bottom of attendance doesn't mean the team is losing money especially when so much revenue is shared.

But maybe they were losing money. It's a possibility. The books iirc are closed. The only way we get a peek into them is sideways by looking at the packers finances.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Volkerball posted:

Then why are they likely going to move two teams to LA? Why do they have two teams in New York?

In a two team market, it's less likely that both teams will suck at the same time thus always holding onto the tv share in that large market.

Going back a few posts, the Raiders had a big problem with ticket sales and tv revenue for a while. The whole reason the tarps were put up on mount davis was to meet the percentage threshold of tickets sold in order to avoid tv blackouts. iirc, they ended up signing an agreement that gave a larger share of the revenue to the visiting team in exchange for a lower threshold to avoid blackouts.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Bip Roberts posted:

Yeah, the Raiders own.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Best resolution would be no relocation plan gets enough votes and Spanos has to crawl back to San Diego with his hat in his hand for a one year deal at Qualcomm.

No plan gets enough votes because their too busy planning to emergency draft after a meteor hits gilette saturday during the pats - chiefs game.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Chargers got jokes

https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/4456293?s=09

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

A's are already covered.



I like the Oaklandish logo better

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:

So what you're saying is that the Raiders should move to San Antonio

Lakers back to Minnesota, raiders to la, spurs to la.

White sox to la.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

bawfuls posted:

Can't wait for Spanos to decide he's gonna stay in SD, but then have the ballot measure get voted down and the city/county refuse to help pay for a new stadium.

I was really surprised they didn't wait until they got the results of that ballot measure.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

What happens when Marks mom dies? US he going to have to sell off a chunk of the team to pay for inheritance tax?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

MechaFrogzilla posted:

The Las Vegas Warboys
Warboys!
They fight for Immortan Mark
Immortan Mark!

Al. Mark is the bug dumb son.

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Gonna need someone to draw Imperator Khalil.

Can I just get Rosie Huntington and the other milkwives as raiderettes?

I'm now seriously considering a white Al Davis tracksuit and an Immortan Joe mask for next season.

Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 29, 2016

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Keyser S0ze posted:

that would be great.

Another great solution would have been to leave the Candlestick demo at this stage and let the Mad Max Hellraiders have it. Needs piles of skulls though.



Great! Invite the niner fans over and we'll get going on those piles.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Spoeank posted:



I can't wait for this dumb bullshit bubble to burst.

I have a 800 sq ft 1 BR and everyone marvels that I only pay $1650 for it (and it isn't even in one of the lovely parts of San Jose)

I had a below market rental 2br around the corner from here back before i married. I should have kept that poo poo...

In the same way my brother in law kept his 1br bachelor pad in the haight that he still pays ~1k for and keeps as a pied a terre.

In short, kill all tech bros.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Ross Angeles posted:

This isn't actually true

They're fair weather more than anything else. If the LA team doesn't have the success of the contemporary patriots, Angelinos aren't going to fight the traffic to fill the stadium. But if you had to rank the three teams on nothing more than brand value to the market, it'd go Raiders, Rams, Chargers.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

MatildaTheHun posted:

Road trip was successful, whoever recommended that drove from Pinnacles to Hollister was rad, thanks!

You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. This is the perfect time of year to do it.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Ross Angeles posted:

Chargers are targeting 2022 for a possible downtown stadium opening date lol

I still don't get the Chargers strategy here. Didn't they accept the la move? Why did they announce that so early if they're still trying to get their sd stadium deal done? Doesn't having a foot out the door torpedo their chances at the poll?

Also, gently caress the Chargers. Bend over and prepare for Carr and cooper and Mack.

Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Mar 30, 2016

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

NC-17 posted:

Why are sport stadiums the only buildings in America that can't be loving renovated? Who designs a piece of public infrastructure that is obsolete in 40 years?

It's mostly stadiums of a particular era. Places like qualcomm and the oakland coliseum were concrete monstrosities meant to be tailgated around.

Maxwells Demon posted:

The incentives have changed such that stadiums want a bunch of VIP boxes since the League doesn't dip into those sales.


And this. If you look at the places that have been successfully renovated, the renovations were laregely about putting in more luxury boxes.

For example:



or



If you're building from scratch you just say gently caress it and build half the stadium as luxury boxes

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Chichevache posted:

Arrowhead stadium night be my favorite non-Hawks field. I absolutely love watching games there. I'm a big fan of what Ross is doing with Miami's as well.

Arrowhead is on my bucket list. Also, gently caress the Chiefs.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

kiimo posted:

I am interested to see Raider fans pulling back on the pirate and Darth Vader costumes and shifting easily into more desert-appropriate Mad Max: Fury Road costumes.

Chain a guy to the top of the scoreboard with a guitar shooting pillars of flames and playing AC/DC songs every timeout.

I'm already working on my Al Davis / Immortal Joe mashup for next season

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Is there parking?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Ross Angeles posted:

I guess they're going to try and utilize the same high rise parking structures that the padres use, plus the article says there's going to be a massive underground parking structure under the stadium

I wish the A's and Raiders would do the same thing at the coliseum site. One of the sticking points to it all is parking while a new thing is built on one of the parking lots. A multistory parking structure would solve all these problems and we could have two single use stadiums there with parking and access to bart.

Kinda kill tailgating though..

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

kiimo posted:

Why should they?

Oakland is rapidly gentrifying. It gets a bad rep because it's full of scary black people, but give it another ten years and they'll be all be in Vallejo

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Parmesan Basil posted:

All of California is bad. I'd rather be in Nebraska.

Things that have never before been uttered for $1000, Alex

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Six if you include the Angels

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

kiimo posted:

I had Kansas plates in California for 8 years. After a while I did it just to see how creative people could be.

Not very, as it turns out.

"you're not in Kansas anymore!" is not acceptable comedy road rage, assholes. Here's a nickel, have someone with a shred of talent ghostwrite your lines.

A friend of mine had Kansas plates and a Chiefs license plate frame and wondered why he had trouble parking in Oakland.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

fartknocker posted:

I'm happier now that I know a place called Lone Butte Casino exists in this universe. :yosbutt:

You bet your rear end it does.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Sash! posted:

If you're running slot machines 19 miles away from the stadium...who cares, that casino might even be in a different state at that point.

Maybe in your tiny little girly states

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

I was staying in Reno after burning man and the hotel slipped letters under all the doors that said literally "please don't scare the squares."

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008


The 750 number is Vegas right? Oakland didn't offer this much.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Bumming Your Scene posted:

Very excited to have football back in Los Angeles. Great job, everybody. We did it.

http://www.sbsun.com/sports/20160816/3-arrested-1-hospitalized-after-first-la-rams-preseason-game



I kind of liked the rep the raiders had from their days in LA. Now the pinche Rams are trying to steal our thunder?

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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Keyser S0ze posted:

Cowboy fans the clear instigators!



I will bet $1 trillion in Trumpcoins that all the people fighting are converted Raider fans. Also how did someone smuggle in CANS of Coors Light?

This is the biggest shame. Come back to the nation friends.

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