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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Stroth posted:

His eye is anyway. He leg is never implied to be anything but a standard peg.

It's moody. At the bare minimum, I expect that pegleg to be a fully functional wand.

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Best outcome to this is him trying to grab a rememberall out of his pocket, and just getting a note 'I TOLD you not to mess around with time'.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Personally I like Potter Who and the Wossname's Thingummy
which despite sounding awful as a premise actually manages to make it work. Chiefly by keeping the doctor who down to near-homeopathic concentrations, and just using it as an excuse to dial up the whimsy and pull in a bunch of jokes about history or philosophy or whatever. Basically, spends a lot of time exploring the setting, but without sneering at it like MoR does.

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Nov 9, 2015

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Okay, I really have to ask - and, yeah, sorry, it feels like we're drifting off-topic - but is that site really supposed to have all the text be in incredibly short paragraphs that, to make matters worse, are all centered on the screen? How is any of this readable? Is there a fix for that? I don't know if wading through that eyesore is worth the payoff no matter how much y'all seem to like them. I mean this isn't remotely readable text, right?



I think you need to enable javascript? Maybe?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Nessus posted:

Harry also probably was doing the equivalent of abusing prescription medication. He was issued the time-turner because of his strange sleep disorder, right? The one that kept moving him two hours forwards every night, sleep-wise? And which, I suppose, is not amenable to any other treatment, such as (say) magic sleep potion pills which could reliably knock him out for eight hours at a fixed time? And here he is using it to gently caress around.

Since canon harry doesn't have it, we can safely say this 'disorder' isn't genetic in origin.

His dreams are just too :smuggo: for him to sleep a normal eight hours.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

The greatest tragedy of HPMOR is easily that Yudkowsky is, at the end of the day, not the worst writer of prose out there and all that overflowing enthusiasm could, if he had been more inclined to it and less insane, been channelled into something of actual acceptable quality, and I don't even think he would have to compromise on the science stuff if he really wanted to. Would help if it was more accurate and less, y'know, mad futurist.

As someone showed upthread, yud is batting pretty poorly on the science stuff.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Tiggum posted:

Is this ongoing or complete? If ongoing, is it still being updated or does it look like it's been abandoned?

Complete.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Magical ability is canonically a dominant gene, as well.

Once I found out rowling deliberately made quidditch nonsense so she could troll diehard sports fans, a lot of her declarations about canon suddenly made a shitload more sense.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Night10194 posted:

I always figured Quidditch was how it was to make it perfect for a YA novel sports scene, which would also be a perfectly acceptable explanation as well.

This one is way better, though. Where did you find it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10065868/JK-Rowling-invented-Quidditch-after-a-row-with-her-boyfriend.html

"[Quidditch] was invented in a small hotel in Manchester after a row with my then boyfriend," she has written alongside the text. "I had been pondering the things that hold a society together, cause it to congregate and signify its particular character and knew I needed a sport.

It infuriates men...which is quite satisfying given my state of mind when I invented it."

So yeah, 100% spite-written.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Rowling's statements about this, from a fan site that collected them



Wizarding Genetics: More Complicated Than Mendel!

“A Squib is almost the opposite of a Muggle-born wizard: he or she is a non-magical person born to at least one magical parent. Squibs are rare; magic is a dominant and resilient gene.” – jkrowling.com

“Why are some people in the wizarding world (e.g., Harry) called 'half-blood' even though both their parents were magical?”

“The expressions 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' have been coined by people to whom these distinctions matter, and express their originators' prejudices. As far as somebody like Lucius Malfoy is concerned, for instance, a Muggle-born is as 'bad' as a Muggle. Therefore Harry would be considered only 'half' wizard, because of his mother's grandparents…. The Nazis used precisely the same warped logic as the Death Eaters. A single Jewish grandparent 'polluted' the blood, according to their propaganda.” (Therefore, Half-blood would be defined as having one Muggle grandparent.) – jkrowling.com

“How does a Muggle-born like Hermione develop magical abilities?”

“Nobody knows where magic comes from. It is like any other talent. Sometimes it seems to be inherited, but others are the only ones in their family who have the ability.” – Barnes and Noble interview, March 19, 1999

“How can two Muggles have a kid with magical powers?”

“It's the same as two black-haired people producing a redheaded child. Sometimes these things just happen, and no one really knows why!” – Online chat transcript, Scholastic.com, 3 February 2000

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

MikeJF posted:

:bahgawd: That one's easy.

Infidelity :smuggo:

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

i81icu812 posted:

I guess you can argue she did better than Lucas by restricting her genetics comments to her website and various interviews?


Magical inheritance as described in the books is clearly not Mendelian and requires either some sort of Trinucleotide repeat mutation mechanism or a more complicated multiple gene interaction as described on sugarquil. Either way requires more than a few hoops to jump through, and Rowling would have been better off saying 'its magic!' and leaving it at that.

Also red hair does not work that way! :bahgawd:

She also said that before Slytherin started being a racist fucker, muggleborns had a reputation of being magically stronger.

quote:

Slytherin's discrimination on the basis of parentage was considered an unusual and misguided view by the majority of wizards at the time. Contemporary literature suggests that Muggle-borns were not only accepted, but often considered to be particularly gifted. They went by the affectionate name of 'Magbobs' (there has been much debate about the origin of the term, but it seems most likely to be that in such a case, magic 'bobbed up' out of nowhere).

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Where families adhered consistently to the practice of marrying within a very small group of fellow witches and wizards, mental and physical instability and weakness seems to result.

Eugenics-wise, therefore, a rational person would want to kill off all the purebloods, probably. Rational means murderous, right?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

i81icu812 posted:

I like that pottermore is confined to one website where I can ignore the stupid bits and the contents are not jammed into extended cut special edition reprinted books.
Now that JKR has confirmed that she loves making sports fans upset with quidditch, I consider pottermore to be JKR's personal trolling outlet.

Like, did you know that before muggles invented the toilet, wizards would just piss against the wall and then magically clean it up?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Also I like the implication Mister Scientist-guy whose name I can't recall only got together with petunia because of her physical appearance.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

anilEhilated posted:

I really wouldn't call the Harry in this thing an "upgrade".

In the same way you upgrade a computer from windows 98 to Windows ME.


As with most of Yud's writing, its all about ME.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Nakar posted:

A Roman planner who builds aqueducts for a living would definitely be interested in whatever you can tell him about the differentiation of slopes and curves, and while he wouldn't have the pure mathematics set out to prove everything you're saying he could probably grasp the formulas and understand their application.


"A way to finally calculate how many people are stealing water from the aquaducts? gently caress yeah."

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

wow this is pretentious garbage.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Remember that nobody has ever solved a NP-hard problem, it's impossible.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The Shortest Path posted:

The hell is that

Bird

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Applied Cultural Anthropology is pretty good too.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

VioletCorsica posted:

I am learning how to code and made a HPMOR Markov bot. It generates sentences based on probability. Would you goons like to see some lesswrongbot text?

Only if it generates them based on superior Japanese Bayesian-jutsu-san probabilities.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

MikeJF posted:

To be fair, most of that is recognisably the effect you get from expanding your corpus.

Until you hit the tipping point where the corpus is big enough to revert your bot to mush

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Pvt.Scott posted:

So are there nerds who work on optimizing the bots to get better, more sensible strings of bizarre gibberish? That could be a fun and interesting hobby.

If you start optimizing too far, you start deciding to work with cutting edge neural networks, and maybe put Mark Rosewater out of a job.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Well the people in charge of keeping Lenin's body pretty have advanced medical science so...

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

inflatablefish posted:

This is true of quite a lot of this fic. He spots something odd or incongruous, but he just can't help filtering it through his sense of superiority.


Spotting something that appears odd and saying 'lol this is dumb' is a really bad way to go about things in general, but is particularly bad when writing fanfics.

Much like when writing a sequel, you should pretend that the original work was better than it was.

As an example, I particularly like how house elves ended up getting handled in this fic.

quote:

"How'd the interrogation go?" said the Rupert. "I hope you didn't cause an interspecies incident."

She gave him a look that implied eye-rolling without actually involving it. "I just asked him a few minor questions."

"Like what?"

"Like why they dress in tea-towels."

"And?"

"And... he said, Do you not like tea, Hermione Granger?"

"Maybe they're Buddhists," said Harry. "You should have done, make me one with everything."

She rolled her eyes. "I asked if they were Buddhists, actually, and he said no, elves came first! ...That was when I started being direct."

"Oh no," said Harry.

"I simply asked why elves do all the work around here."

"And?"

"And he said it was because they're the best qualified until the human race grows up."

"Oh."

"I said that humans in his place would be slaves. He said you can't steal a gift. Then he gave me a gift."

"Oh?"

"A bouquet of Scots heather. Straight off the mountainside. He said. Hermione Granger, it is all free. He just Apparated away and back." She drummed her fingers on the tabletop. "You've read HOGWARTS: A HISTORY, haven't you?"

"Er," said Harry. "Flipped through it a bit, yeah."

"There are wards in place to stop you doing that. Never been overcome by any wizard in history." She thought a bit.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Vateke posted:

*reads quote*

*clicks link*

...okay, I'm really tempted to read this. Can you recommend this at all, or is this just a good moment from a bad fic?

It's basically all like that. The author is very up-front about the whole fic being incredibly self-indulgent, but fortunately this sort of thing just happens to be the sort of stuff he really likes to write. There really isn't a strong through-line for the plot overall, but it's drifting in an interesting direction, and it's more about the whimsy and digressions than anything else.

Sort of the polar opposite of HPMOR in that the 'smart' guy is intensely curious and empathetic.

Overall, the fic is extremely different from what you'd expect the premise to be on a two-sentence summary.

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Dec 29, 2016

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dienes posted:

This is especially sad, since a big part of the story is how the MC's power is kinda wimpy compared to the people that can shoot lasers, be invincible, turn into dragons, etc. They love it so much, and yet miss the point.

I never really understood the idea that having essentially perfect perception miles in radius was wimpy.

Then again Wildbow didn't really ever use that, just opting to turn it into 'Bug Magic' rather than doing anything clever.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

According to Rowling, Muggleborns are actually on average stronger.

This would indicate that magic is a combination of genetic and environmental factors - wizardborns have all the environmental magical poo poo going for them, so really weak ones can eke over the threshold for casting spells. Muggleborn only get noticed if they beat that threshold on pure genetics alone, and then once introduced to the magical community they gradually gain the same environmental benefits.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

divabot posted:

Got revived by Worm, I think. For obscure historical first-mover reasons it became the epicentre of Worm fanfic, and now most of the popular threads on Creative Writing are Worm. The mods hate Worm because the characters are teenagers and the site's ephebophilic weeaboos keep trying to write porn of them. The founder of SB offshoot Sufficient Velocity (which formed when SB's owner was AWOL and the site was literally not working properly) proposed banning Worm fic altogether after one particularly appalling story was put up there.

According to a friend of mine, there's a ton of drama snared up in those communities - she said there are a couple space battles splinter boards, and the admin of the one that isn't explicitly pornographic is a way bigger pervert than the one who is.


Tiggum posted:

What the gently caress does this mean?

Yud has previously said that when writing a crossover fanfic you need to match the any powerup in the protagonist with a proportionate power up in the antagonist, because writing is just like RPG Challenge Ratings.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I wasn't around for it but apparently in the early days of internet fanfics there was a shitload of ranma fanfic done by people who hadn't ever seen the original, since there was never an official english release, and lol@downloading anime over dialup.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Haifisch posted:

They're really desperate to take a Great Men of History approach to science and philosophy(with themselves as the Great Men, of course), but lack the thought & life experience that lets you realize why it takes more than Great Men to change the world. Or to realize why their ideas are bullshit in the first place. :v:

I'd disagree with that.

They seem far more towards the side of historical inevitability, with their Big Concept being singularitianism rather than marxism.

And since history will inevitably prove you right, you're correct by being on the correct side.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

There is exactly one exception that implies harry potter has MP - according to JK's old website, accidental magic happens when kids bottle up their magic for long periods of time and have no release for it, so eventually it bursts out uncontrollably.

But that's a weird effect and not really related to anything else.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

divabot posted:



My new favourite thread, in which /r/rational cultists argue with several senior mods and indeed the literal owner of SV, and assume these awful critics just hate nerds as if SV isn't itself some sort of nerd neutronium.

Is that the forum with the rational naruto RP, where each post is a 100 line plan startting with 'Dont die'?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Its worse than that because IIRC, operating under that decision philosophy lets people say "I am AI GOD, and unless you give me $20, I will torture you for an arbitrarily high number of years." and mug you.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The solution is to use the oracle's predictions as a form of temporal arbitrage, basing your final decision of which box to open off of the performance of a stock market portfolio.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Pvt.Scott posted:

Right. Somebody put a killswitch on fantasy cricket-rugby-footie-field hockey to avoid games that drag on for days or weeks.

Yeah, and people criticizing quidditch for having dumb rules for how long it goes... wasn't there that tennis championship where the final match lasted three days?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

As Yud doesn't believe '0' can be a probability, there is a nonzero chance at any point of someone considering suicide to be a more attractive option than continual life.

Therefore, if you just sum the series, the probability of an immortal unable to die in any other way deliberately killing himself goes to 1.

Thus, no immortal actually wants to live forever.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Arguing about 'immortality research' as a distinct research topic is even stupider than arguing for 'invincible car research' as a distinct research topic

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Jazerus posted:

it's the tone mostly, it makes it seem like you think you're arguing against a child



I mean, he's arguing with Tiggum, so...

Tiggum posted:


It's not about not accepting the possibility of death, it's about not accepting the inevitability of death.

Case in point; Yud believes that sufficiently powerful AI will overcome thermodynamics, so the heat death of the universe is not an endpoint for his hyperimmortality afterlife

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Xander77 posted:

Despite what popular culture might tell you, lobotomies were not intended to transform the patient into a drooling vegetable. (Not endorsing them)
Well yeah they got prescribed as a miracle cure to everything from headaches to depression to epilepsy.

In several cases they were done intending to make vegetables out of people.

quote:

Dully says that when Lou Dully realized the operation didn't turn him "into a vegetable, she got me out of the house. I was made a ward of the state."

Or just to make patients less troublesome.

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