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Atheistdeals.com
Aug 2, 2004

:siren: NEW OWNERS GUIDE

Someone blew it so here's you late rear end thread for whining about coach hiring!

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LAST SEASON

-Five straight 110+ win seasons couldn't do it, but finally nasboat stopped choking and took home the hardware! Good job Art.
-Cleveland won the NL pennant for the fourth time in five seasons.
-Defending champion and cool cool team New Orleans couldn't beat Cleveland in the DS this time.
-Charlotte captured the top seed in the AL but couldn't win a single playoff game.
-gardenald had his best season ever but could only win one playoff game against jeff.
-Salem won 116 games but also got swept immediately.
-Devo kept his division title streak, but lost his HBD thread making streak.
-jeff made a deep playoff run as a 6 seed, what an underdog.
-Buffalo and Chicago NL made the playoffs for the first time, Helena for the second time. Colorado for the 29th time.
-Chip Steele's time has come.

DIVISION WINNERS

AL North: Chicago Barons
AL East: Pittsburgh Steel Birds
AL South: Charlotte Goyim
AL West: Helena Thirty Helens

NL North: Chicago Cubes
NL East: Cleveland Attack on Memory
NL South: New Orleans Spirits
NL West: Salem Saberhagens

WILD CARDS

AL: Seattle Discontent, Santa Fe Leo Egans
NL: Colorado Burrellballers, Buffalo Garden Paths

AWARDS

AL MVP: McKay Ray, Goyim
NL MVP: Cliff Burnett, Burrellballers
AL Cy Young: Omar DaSilva, Discontent
NL Cy Young: Chick Wehner, Saberhagens
AL ROTY: Michael Chang, Goyim
NL ROTY: CHIP STEELE, Metropolitans

INFO FOR NEW OWNERS AND HOPELESSLY INCOMPETENT VETERANS

NEW OWNERS GUIDE - Work in Progress

1. Consider running trade offers by the veteran owners in thread. We'll tell you if you're getting ripped off too badly.

2. Figure out a plan and stick to it. If you decide your team needs a rebuilding period, don't abort it halfway through and try to win. That's how you get a consistently mediocre team that doesn't go anywhere.

3. Overall rating is pretty much meaningless, other than to inflate a guy's asking price or determine draft comp.

4. During the preseason, you need to pay more attention to your team than at any other time. After the season starts, you can get away with checking your team once a day or so. During the preseason, you need to be much more active. Don't commit to a team if you can't do that. The main cycles run at (roughly) 3:45am, 11:45am and 7:45pm Eastern, with half cycles in between each. I'd advise that you check every half-cycle, as this is when you get feedback on coach hiring, free agent offers, re-signings, etc.

5. Go through your team roster when you get your team. Figure out what assets you have. Figure out what players you need to protect from the Rule V draft. Failing to do so can seriously set your team back. I'm bolding this part because nasboat is AN IDIOT WHO LOST THREE GOOD PROSPECTS AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO DO THIS EXACT THING, SO IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU, TOO! SERIOUSLY!

6. Don't be afraid to ask questions! HBD can be overwhelming at first. There's a lot to figure out, and we've all been through it. Use your goon resources.

7. Don't listen to Art's advice. EVER.

8. Coach Hiring Sucks. But it's not that bad honestly if the world works together. We can do this. Trust me.

9. Most of all, have fun with it. Don't get too worked up about fake baseball. Unless you're menasboat.

10. (NEW) Get a Big Brother! If you've never played this game before feel free to ask the thread for help from the veterans. Hopefully one of us will take you under our wing and teach you some of the stupid convoluted poo poo that you need to know before you quit in frustration. Then when you're a 10 season veteran with multiple world series wins you can pay it forward!


:siren: AWESOME THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY :siren:

-ADVANCED ROSTER EDIT. This is essential. If you've got (I think) 3 seasons of HBD under your belt, you can take the stupid, WIS-mandated 'training wheels' off your "Edit Roster" page. That's right, no longer will you have to make promotions one player at a time -- which was always a terrible process when trying to bump up all your minor leaguers. To get to advanced roster mode, simply access the "Management Console" from the "Manager's Office" menu, then scroll down and select "Advanced Mode" under "GM Edit Rosters Options"

SPRING TRAINING INFO YOU WILL NEED

quote:

Set your spring training rest hierarchy and pitch counts.

PAs in spring training count towards fatigue in the regular season but the games don't, so you don't want to use your starters as much as you would in the regular season.

HOWEVER spring training is also a good opportunity for your young players to get a couple extra points and if you don't let your veterans play, they might lose a few points. So it's a careful balancing act. I'd recommend inviting some guys to ST from your minor leagues--either prospects you want to develop or mediocre AAAA dudes who can soak up some innings/PAs. Your 25 man roster won't cut it.

Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Spring training squads to invite some of your minor leaguers to camp. Go to Manager's office -> Managers Settings to set your lineup to rest after the fifth inning even if they're losing or leading by only 1. Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Edit Player settings to set your starters to low pitch counts. If for some reason you want them to go deep in games, you can manually force your team to use a 10 man rotation or something. Rotate out your relievers, setting the guys who just pitched to "rest" and forcing the AI to use other guys after games.

The goal is to get your starters at least 10 innings, your relievers at least 3 appearances and your batters at least 30 PAs. After that you're safe from regression. The rest of the playing time should go to backups, bench guys, and minor leaguers.


CURRENT GOON TEAMS -- NOW WITH TWITTER HANDLES!

uublog made a Twitter list here

pre:
Forums name      / WIS name     / Franchise                      / Twitter

nasboat          / nasboat      / Seattle Discontent             / @nasboat
Art Vandelay     / thaneoffife  / Montreal Royal Kilted Yaksmen  / @ThaneOfFife
gardenald        / gardenald    / Chicago Barons                 / @gardenald

Devo             / devomac      / Pittsburgh Steel Birds         / @Devo1999
Cory Lidle       / dockellis70  / Boston Sophists                / @DJWeedPizza
Evilbeard        / evilbeard    / Hartford Focus                 / @evilbeard
?????            / kingfatdik   / Dover Dumpsters                / @duyarvish

jeffersonlives   / tjefferson   / Santa Fe Leo Egans             / @ihateprospects
Scrotos          / Fervus       / Charlotte Goyim                / @scrotos
uublog           / uublog       / Richmond Flying Squirrels      / @uublog
Tavarin          / tavarin      / St. Louis Gaedels              / @tavarin

CaptMurphy       / captmurphy   / Portland Beavers               / @haassauce
stimpy           / stimpy_5     / Helena Thirty Helens           / @sas_stimpy
The broken bones / kingofspain  / Salt Lake City Punks           / @TheAmitie
?????            / ck22         / Los Angeles Dodgers            / @JaredJMassey

Nerokerubina     / koyunlu      / Iowa City IOWA                 / @QaraKoyunlu
Operaterp        / operaterp    / Philadelphia Phatties          / 
ernestborg9      / ernestborg9  / Ottawa BEEMOs                  / @ernest_borg9
?????            / spaldingball / Chicago Cubes                  / @spaldingethan

AlleyViper       / alleyviper   / Cleveland Hustlers             / @deanleyland
chutwig          / chutwig      / Buffalo Garden Paths           / @erhudy
tatankatonk      / tatankatonk  / New York Metropolitans         / @tatankatonk
?????            / mattwithanh  / Jacksonville Juggernauts       / @mattwithanh

Atheistdeals.com / atheistdeals / New Orleans Spirits            / @DoubleScorpion
?????            / atomicruckus / Charleston Palmetto Bugs       / ?

ThatsMyBoye      / mrincubus    / Anaheim Los Angeleses          / @paul_boye
gyroball         / gyroball     / Colorado Burrellballers        / @RedbirdMenace
Power of Pecota  / pecotaredux  / Salem Saberhagens              / @GeorgeMatanzas
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ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
atomicruckus (Charleston) is a non-goon. @MJ_Baumann

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

ThatsMyBoye posted:

atomicruckus (Charleston) is a non-goon. @MJ_Baumann

He also hasn't logged in since Friday. Maybe isn't aware the season started?

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders

AlleyViper posted:

He also hasn't logged in since Friday. Maybe isn't aware the season started?

That's not correct considering I walked through coach re-hiring and non-tenders with him yesterday. Not sure why that hasn't updated.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

that's the same poo poo it was pulling with Crion too, not reflecting his log-ins on the standings page for some reason

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

Atheistdeals.com posted:

-Five straight 110+ win seasons couldn't do it, but finally nasboat stopped choking and took home the hardware! Good job Art.

:woop:


so glad i can look at this and not hate it nearly as much as I used to

this was also basically Bo Chamberlain's death sentence

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
I used to actually win arbitration cases every once in a while and that was cool

EvilBeard
Apr 24, 2003

Big Q's House of Pancakes

Fun Shoe
TRADEZ

gyroball
Jul 29, 2003

Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

I will never understand which deals are nullified by contract extensions and which deals aren't.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA
What the gently caress is this new poo poo about the player automatically winning arb cases? I was eight minutes late on releasing Jesus Romero and Sid Chapman so now I'm paying them to :fuckoff: basically. That is some fuckin bullshit hbd, not unlike doing all arb cases at pm2 cycle 2, rather than am. gently caress you hbd.

:argh:

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

:toot:

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
uublog don't let your pitchers explode into bloody chunks this season

Capt Murphy
Nov 16, 2005

I win arb cases all the time in all the worlds I'm in, you just have to set your sights lower. (I'd estimate my success rate at 40-45%) The savings are never huge but I've won 4 out of 6 before and it ended up being almost $1.5m extra.

Also there's nothing new about automatically offering players arbitration if you don't get to it in time. It says it in the description and I got burned on that early on.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

tatankatonk posted:

uublog don't let your pitchers explode into bloody chunks this season

Yeah that's basically my goal for this season

Capt Murphy posted:

I win arb cases all the time in all the worlds I'm in, you just have to set your sights lower. (I'd estimate my success rate at 40-45%) The savings are never huge but I've won 4 out of 6 before and it ended up being almost $1.5m extra.

Also there's nothing new about automatically offering players arbitration if you don't get to it in time. It says it in the description and I got burned on that early on.

There's definitely something different. It used to say "if you don't [blah blah blah whatever something about 70% of the player's demands]" and now it said "if you don't [blah blah blah whatever] the player automatically gets his demands."

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.
Oh my god this fa class blows goats

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
So long, Haywood :\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSz16ngdsG0

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Well hey there Heywood

(Bye ruby sojo jokes)

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

looks like I am barely going to have time to do anything in this pre-season so I can't wait to see what garbage I enter the season with

duyarvish
Feb 7, 2015
king fat dick is in the building and ready to gently caress up another season, which it looks like i have already started doing

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
Lol how was there so little interest in Glenallen Brinkley that jeff got him at ask?

Scrotos
Sep 8, 2003


:gonk:

AlleyViper posted:

Lol how was there so little interest in Glenallen Brinkley that jeff got him at ask?

This poo poo happens every year and this is why Jeff will always be in contention.

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.
I was on Brinkley until I traded for Haywood and then I didn't need him anymore :shobon:

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

Scrotos posted:

This poo poo happens every year and this is why Jeff will always be in contention.

A guy like Liverman signing right away doesn't surprise me much but I thought for sure Brinkley would be one of the hotter commodities.

gyroball
Jul 29, 2003

Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

I'm willing to embarass myself so here is where I admit I hadn't assigned Kyle Sparks do I thought I had a lineup hole to fill last night when I went put in my last bid on Martinez.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Hi Elston :)

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

AlleyViper posted:

Lol how was there so little interest in Glenallen Brinkley that jeff got him at ask?

I was at 2/13.5 and bailed when that didn't lead because I needed to shift elsewhere

duyarvish
Feb 7, 2015
about what time do players respond on the latest rounds of bids?

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
AM part 1: ~ 4 AM
AM part 2: ~ 7:30 AM
PM part 1: ~ 12 PM
PM part 2: ~ 3:30 PM
PM2 part 1: ~ 8 PM
PM2 part 2: ~ 11:30 PM

Players are already starting to sign, and IIRC the first round of coaches will officially sign at the PM2 part 2 tonight.

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
Sure, nobody go after Harold Evert, either.

I guess nobody is interested in sigining good FAs this season?

Scrotos
Sep 8, 2003


:gonk:

AlleyViper posted:

Sure, nobody go after Harold Evert, either.

I guess nobody is interested in sigining good FAs this season?

Welcome to how lovely FA works, just no one bids and they go cheap.

gyroball
Jul 29, 2003

Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

AlleyViper posted:

Sure, nobody go after Harold Evert, either.

I guess nobody is interested in sigining good FAs this season?

Hey Tony Martinez is gonna prove himself now that he's where he belongs in Coors

Atheistdeals.com
Aug 2, 2004

AlleyViper posted:

Sure, nobody go after Harold Evert, either.

I guess nobody is interested in sigining good FAs this season?

There was a 40 year old starter out there who needed a two year deal!

edit: also I wouldn't sign Evert as my only type A so I didn't even bother making an offer

Atheistdeals.com fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 26, 2015

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
I just noticed that Rob Dunn is 37 years old and on the FA market which means I've been playing this game for way too long

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

AlleyViper posted:

Sure, nobody go after Harold Evert, either.

I guess nobody is interested in sigining good FAs this season?

I know I've only got payroll to have 1-2 offers out at once - those two were both on my watch list.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA
Fuuuuck me why did Alex sign so early??? Welp time to go back into rebuilding mode :smith:

Who wants a Cla Walsh or Chip Morandini or Benny Carreras or Al Dotel or whoever else I tried to violently murder and haven't already been spat in the face by on their way to free agency?

Capt Murphy
Nov 16, 2005

Welcome back, Humberto :)

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Ronald Luke is gonna move so now's your chance to pony up for a Stud CatcherTM

Nerokerubina
Jun 7, 2007

I think swords are neat. Do you think swords are neat?!
hey everyone i'm trading the future of my franchise away so if y'all want to get your offers in you have a couple hours

Nerokerubina
Jun 7, 2007

I think swords are neat. Do you think swords are neat?!
i hate this i hate trades i need to never trade anyone

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gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Nerokerubina posted:

i hate this i hate trades i need to never trade anyone

what have you done :stonk:

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