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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Might have been auto correct, but I found this rather funny.

Serious talk: it's the military. Did you expect world class care with good bedside manners and a flawless method of maintaining medical records?

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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Question about correcting a senior person (LDO).

So this guy is all about uniform regulations and whatnot, which is fine but he stopped someone the other day and was hemming them up about attention to detail, etc. I couldn't help but notice his MA badge was not according to regulations (flush to the US Navy tape if it's the cloth badge, 1/4 inch if it's metal- and he's wearing the cloth with the 1/4 inch gap.) Normally I don't care about things like that but I thought it was ironic that he was correcting someone when he himself was not in accordance with regulations. How does one go about "correcting" a senior person who thinks he's God's gift to the Navy?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Yeah the CO thing is a gay way to go about it. I'd say it to his face, but he'd probably take it the wrong way. He "and halt"ed a guy in his division who saw him walking up and turned to go in to a building without saluting, but he was definitely 30 paces away.

I like the idea of putting up the instruction on cork boards but that takes a little more effort and it'd be pretty obvious it was me putting them up since people would see. Oh well, guess I'll just go back to minding my own business and thinking that Mustangs are by far, worse than SWOs.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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vulturesrow posted:

The best uniform fuckery is Navy guys in ACUs. I saw so so many Army O5s and below crispy saluting PO3s when I was in Iraq. When I was in Djibouti some of my guys were complaining about a similar situation as Lingcod and I told them they were under no obligation to try and figure out if they needed to salute someone in a deliberately obscured uniform (little different scenario since they were talking about Marine aviators specifically) and that if any of those officers had a problem with that that they were welcome to come talk it over with me. No one ever took me up on my invitation. :smith:

The funny thing is a lot of PO3s definitely look too young to be an O-6. I guess the military has done a decent job at not questioning a shiny collar device and the person wearing it. Also, gently caress the Coast Guard and their combination cover wearing ways

There was a LCDR in Bahrain who would run from point A to point B covering his cover device and blouse so he wouldn't have to be saluted/return the salute. AFN has some hilarious PSAs regarding saluting/colors/that's not what right looks like.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfhsCBFYNw0 found the one for the nobles.

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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Just out of curiosity, is it possible to get a Navy COM with V but have no CAR?

There's a paper warrior whose POV has what I assume is his actual ribbon rack in sticker form alongside an "IRAQ" sticker and a "I served" sticker. I thought the V for valor was reserved for acts of heroism against enemy in action but maybe someone can shed light on this? Or perhaps he found some kind of loophole like heroically doing his job in the AC on the FOB while ducking from mortar rounds that were hitting 100 yards away or something.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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At least the thread title isn't too bad.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Howard Phillips posted:

I think the CPO culture is a bit outdated for today's professional all volunteer Navy. Especially as the Navy becomes smaller and smaller. Same thing with some of the officer communities. Our service is technically oriented and leadership ability is more based on technical competency not rank anyways. We all know of commands/units where some E5 is the backbone or some O2 is the one that actually gets things done. Tends to be better at higher officer ranks but still you some people that have made it to LCDR or CDR and not worth a drat.

We need to reform/abolish CPO/Wardroom/FCPO and other BS and focus more on technical competency for leadership and management positions. If we can abolish enlisted/officer rank structure and just have a unified rank structure that's stovepiped based on duties and roles and authority is based on responsibility and specialization.

Alas it will never happen but one can dream. It would mean DOD wide reform, but even going towards something like the GS pay scale would make more sense. Everybody is on the same pay system and appropriately compensated based on experience/responsibility/ability. Get rid of toxic cultures such as goat locker etc...

Modern sailors aren't broken by class divides like before where enlisted = lower class and officer = upper. Yeah I know more lower income and minorities enlist but the divide is less and changing the system can further move towards a meritocracy.

Aside from striking out one little word, I agree with everything you've just said. Sadly, it's the good people that get out due to the "bullshit" and the lovely people who bought in to that lovely mentality of the caste system who go on perpetuating it. I think the Navy thread knows of my distaste for the elitism that comes with making E-7 in the Navy (different uniforms, separate berthing, separate dining, etc.) along with some of the holier-than-thou attitudes that a small group of the nobles have. Just because someone has been in the Navy for 15+ years does not mean they are good at their job- just because someone is of a certain pay grade doesn't mean they have what it takes to be a leader. I think the Marine Corps kind of got it right by separating job specialist versus management guy with the master sergeant or first sergeant, only it needs to happen at a more junior level like E-4.

Edit: one other small thing I disagree with above is just because a guy is technically sound in his field does not mean he has the ability to lead/manage a work center. I've seen people who excel at their job but suck at leading.

germskr fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 7, 2015

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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poopkitty posted:

It seems like the folks advancing to E-7 lately are folks who are good at neither. They're really good at hanging out in the CPO mess and the Bar wearing NAVY CHIEF PRIDE HOOYAH poo poo and backstabbing and breaking rules while hammering young people who are better educated than them for stupid poo poo like curfew violations. So many poo poo CPOs on the waterfront who don't know a thing about PMS or their gear or leading a division.

That's what happens when the pickings are slim.

Just out of curiosity, how do they evaluate chiefs against each other? Also, what's the point if you have no intentions on becoming a Force or MCPON?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Mr. Nice! posted:

They are. They get a special uniform allowance for all their poo poo.

Edit:

FY-2015 Navy Special Initial Clothing Allowance
Special Reason Male Female
Advancement to CPO $1,096.21 $927.50
Selection to OCS, ECP, or Seaman to Admiral Program $1,872.57 $2,002.47


For the new officers that's the last uniform allowance they'll ever get. The Chiefs still get their annual allowance as well.

Where's the gender equality in regards to uniform allowance? It should be the same.




Yeah, yeah, I know... females have to pay more for their uniform items.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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maffew buildings posted:

Chiefs ru(i)n the Navy

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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krispykremessuck posted:


e: I'd go as far as to say just about everyone who has done a significant amount of TDYs has probably unintentionally cost more than $10,000 in poo poo they shouldn't have been authorized.

It's so easy in DTS to just put "AUTH" and bypass all the flagged items, it's scary. The best part is when someone in admin stops writing their own NAM to come by 6 months later and ask if you have receipts. I'm all for saving receipts but once it goes through DTS and gets signed and stamped PAID, am I really expected to keep it all?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Boon posted:

You're supposed to upload receipts into DTS when you make your voucher. It goes under Substantiating Records or something like that on the Expenses tab. That said, if it makes it through the approval chain then I have no idea - I keep nothing after it's been approved.

I don't know if it's our scanner or the browser but none of my receipts are viewable. Oh well, paid out of pocket and got reimbursed but Jesus, Citibank really knows how to annoy the poo poo out of a person.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Reacon posted:

Just get orders to an MCM where 40 man is our biggest berthing, with other 6-15 man berthings literally fit in where they have room.

The USNS Grasp had some embarked (non-ship's company) dudes sleeping in the P-Ways at one point. It was funny because the command really wanted to send females on that one until higher found out.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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I asked a few months ago and got a Coastie to reply mostly, but any DC GiP goons that can say yes or no to living near N Kings Highway? The place is very close to the Walmart Supercenter down that way. Friend of a friend said the closer you get to Groveton and Hybla Valley the sketchier it gets. Since next command will have weird working hours, I'd rather not come off a super long shift only to get shanked (which is why I ruled out southeast despite it being very close to JBAB.)

Dedicated off-street parking and w/d in unit are a must (entitled enlisted I guess) so if anybody has recommendations, I'm all ears. Thanks.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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bengy81 posted:

I completely cut myself off of fb at the end of last year and it was pretty fantastic. I do miss chatting with some buddies, but note night to rectify the problem.

It turns out everybody I served with was pretty terrible and more than happy to broadcast about how terrible they are. Also not hearing about how that friend of the family Democrat running the show in DC is ruining the country is pretty nice too.

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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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But... but it looks so cool when someone signs off an email with:

V/r,

PO1/2/3(SW/AW/SCWS/EXW/FMF/IDW/DV/PJ) Smuckatelli

sorry if I left out your particular pin

I hate that poo poo. Why don't the nobles do that? Oh because it's stupid and dick waving. Also, nobody wants to brag about being a SWO. Kidding. Kind of.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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buttplug posted:

I truly credit VADM Moran with a lot of this stuff. NKO, GMTs, and PFA/BCA fuckery are things he has straight up said multiple times in public forums that have annoyed him throughout his career. These are good steps in the right direction.

Good dude. I like when he comes around and talks to us serfs. On one of his visits he even poo poo-canned my CO.

On a different note, I know it was said in here that the next CNO is also a sub guy, but does anyone know anything about ADM Richardson?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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buttplug posted:

She wouldn't let OPS speak to her directly, he literally had to have a "translator" with him at all times in her presence. Not a joke.

This is actually pretty hilarious. I wish some of our Tagalog ESL speaking sailors came with a translator.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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orange juche posted:

Picked up first, what the gently caress do I do now?


Start signing your emails as PO1 (SEL) (WARFARE DEVICE) orange juche.

Edit: also start attending CPO 365. They had a clip from "The Empire Strikes Back" when Yoda lifts the X-Wing out of the swamp. I think the analogy is that the Chief's Mess is supposed to lift sailors' morale or something like that.

germskr fucked around with this message at 03:49 on May 21, 2015

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Too lazy to look at NPC- are pewter warfare devices authorized on dress whites or does it have to be silver?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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shin01176 posted:

Can be either or. Only real stipulation is that if you have more than one device (IE Aircrew + EAWS) they both match.

Thanks.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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LingcodKilla posted:

So.... I got a question. If I got randomly flipped off by somebody on restricted and then immediately informed the petty officer in charge (mostly because I was confused because I didnt know the dude). Turns out he was talking to his buddy I'm having issues with outside the galley(I saw them talking). The petty officer tried to convince me to let him just handle it in house since "his life couldnt get anyworse"(bullshit).

Is this because the petty officer would also get in trouble for letting his restricted boys mingle with regular sailors or he just doesnt want to deal with paper work?


krispykremessuck posted:

did you tattle because someone flipped you off

You have the makings to cross-rate and become a really good LE type MA if your current rate fails you.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Geizkragen posted:

Anybody ever lived in Fallon? On base or in town, doesn't matter.

My old roommate told me some horror stories about that place- granted he was an E-1 at the time living in the barracks, but I hope you enjoy nothingness and a few local dive bars. The best story was the time some guy went over to another guy's house belligerently drunk and the homeowner stabbed him in the neck with a knife and got away with self-defense or something like that.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Wingnut Ninja posted:

If you feel like it, you can go skiiing/biking/hiking/whatever every single weekend...

You can do all that plus surf and hit the beach in San Diego, which is LOADS better than Fallon. Also, what's the BAH rate there? For E-5 and under, it's under 1k and while I'm sure housing is cheap out there, it kind of says a lot about the area.

In other news, I'm TAD to an Army base for the next 3 weeks and was exposed to the HOOAH after arriving today... people here like to walk around in uniform well after business hours. This is gonna be a fun 3 weeks.

Edit:

for the admin gurus out there, if Army lodging was privatized and no longer issues CNAs (says so on the website), am I required to stay on post if lodging is available at the Army lodge or can I extend my booking at this wonderful residence inn I'm in. At least this place has a kitchen. I mean as it is, I'm paying out of pocket until my advance travel request comes in, and I should be entitled to the full per diem rate.

germskr fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jun 5, 2015

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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If you do hit up Gulfport, make sure to visit Michael's and go home with a dependa whose boo just deployed. (Kidding, don't.)

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Fart Sandwiches posted:

... last cycle over half Corry station got put on FEP either through failure, lowest passing score, or fat body.

Seriously? I mean I know most people don't work out because they're dealing with kids/dependas/what have you, but this is absurd. I hope the SECNAV rethinks his policy about the non-punitive thing on COs doing spot checks on people and makes it like bread and water plus hard labor or something. Think my suggestion is extreme? You get paid to maintain a prescribed weight/BCA standard and do some semblance of cardio/upper body/lovely core exercises- the Navy doesn't ask for much so I see it as an extreme failure of the individual to hold accountability for themselves. Don't like it? Stop collecting a paycheck from Uncle Sam and get out. Rant over.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Boon posted:

This year was the first year that I ever walked on the PRT. I walked about a good fifth of a mile or so which led to my worst ever time.

Finished in 11:10 :colbert:


Depending on age group, that's not bad. As a matter of fact, just to get a GOOD which is one level higher than SAT (not asking for above and beyond stellar performance, it's the Navy afterall), 17-19 year old males are expected to run a 11:00 1.5 mile, 20-24 year old males in 12:00. For the 17-19 year olds, that's a 1:49.36 per quarter mile and for the 20-24 year olds that's 1:59.30 per quarter mile. I'm not asking for Olympians but you can do a combination of walk/jog/watermelon crawl and pass making those splits. Bear in mind, this is for one level higher than SATISFACTORY, which is the bare minimum (and some COs put people on FEP for that anyway).

Pneumonic, obviously I don't know you but are you honestly telling me that you feel pity/sorrow for folks who can't do the above, or even the slower SATISFACTORY and pass their bi-annual PRT?

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Oct 23, 2007

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Cerekk posted:

if the Navy was actually serious about physical fitness they would mandate organized PT or providing time during the work day to work out.

and maybe stop serving chili cheese dogs and chicken nuggets at the galley

My last command did this- prescribed 07-0830ish as departmental/command/individual PT on a POD basis. It was abused to all poo poo, where most people would go get breakfast or go sleep in their cars. We still had a lot of people fail both PRT and weigh in (as Sir Lucius points out) due to lovely diet habits. I'm 100% with you when you say they should change the galley, but my base didn't have a galley. Hence my (slightly) over the top bread and water comment.

As Lingcodkilla points out, there's no incentive to do well on the PRT. I'm not saying medals and awards are the way to go either, but Lt Col. (retired) David Grossman frequently used an example that good shooting scores in the old Army would get a liberty pass. Maybe a 24 hour special lib to the top 10%? I dunno or maybe just personal pride/professionalism, but when you look at current "leaders" in the fleet and how seriously they take PT (just look at that beer belly hanging over the gig line), it's no wonder junior sailors don't give a poo poo. If you're injured (temp/perm) and have it documented, cool. But if you're unmotivated to do a little bit of the leg work to meet the standards for a job you volunteered for, I have no sympathy when you get separated because you're fat or can't do the little bit of cardio/upper body/core exercises the Navy asks.

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Oct 23, 2007

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LingcodKilla posted:

Could be as little as simply doing better in all three categories than your previous sat attempts. That would at least motivate the people who have no chance to be the top 10% because 18-20yrs are loving jackrabbits.

What's that saying? Youth is wasted on the young?

Also, I started looking up multi-limb amputees from OEF/OIF and how some are still within standards but :effort:

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Nwabudike Morgan posted:

i see. Cause they want me to join this new riverine squadron here and I know jack poo poo about em

What's your rate? Which coast? Generally speaking, I'd say don't do it unless you want a few pics of yourself wearing the cool guy cammies holding a bunch of different guns that you'll never get to use.

In all seriousness, unless a war breaks out tomorrow with a country that has many inland water ways, their mission set is kind of useless so now they do harbor patrol missionsjin forward deployed AOs. PM me for more info.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Arione posted:

green pants, black boots

That's some seabee and acu.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Ryand-Smith posted:

The Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and the Dixon, (States rights is codeword for "I hate negroes/I failed history"

Apparently parts of the South didn't get the memo that they lost the war- there's a construction site that has a big Confederate flag proudly displayed on the grills of one of their trucks and a tiny sticker US flag on the passenger side window of a dump truck.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Lol

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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LingcodKilla posted:

They left me hanging! Someone mentioned the Riverine unit may need an IT would I be interested. Took my number and that's all.
The Petty officer mentioned there was at least one intelligence unit that's fairly active with mobilization so maybe I'll get lucky with that. Reality is I'll probably get stuck with a base janitor unit. Those cig butts don't police themselves.
Otherwise boring day. On active duty pay until the 1rst and don't even muster until the 11th. Time to start looking for a real job and hope to god my stupid TS finally clears.

Anyone need printer maintenance guy with a secret clearance?
Anyone?
Dang.

I've already told Nwabudike about the poo poo show that is CORIVRON. Don't drink the koolaid and steer clear, you are standing in to danger. Even worse as a reservist. ITs work on radios and do about jack diddly squat with NETC or any of the other computer poo poo. A lot of complaints from their side of the house on deployments when they were standing a mount in full kit rather than sitting in the AC when the ETs took over saying "lol radio is our domain".

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

Yeah I think it just depends on availability. Being new to the fleet you'll definitely spend some time with the ship as your home initially. There are barracks and I know in SD there's some apartment building for bachelors with a pool on the roof and poo poo? So they give you BAH but then take most ofit away and make you live there? So it's kind of barracks but not.

Someone else can shed more light I'm sure.



-edit just get married imo

Yea the Pacific Beacon is open for most E-4 and below because barracks were in short supply for a while. At my command, there were some E2s and E3s brand new to the Navy who managed to get out-in-town because the barracks were full and so was the Beacon. Spoiled fucks.

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Nwabudike Morgan posted:

that's what i like about salary jobs.
every time the weekend hits and your poo poo-housed drunk you can think to yourself "im basically being paid by the american people to get hosed out my head right now"

Aren't you one of those who play dress-up-military-hooyah-weekend-warrior though?

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Who is the resident JAG? I know we had one, just can't remember who. If that JAG wouldn't mind PMing me (nothing bad, but need legal advice), that'd be great. Thanks.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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God, you already talk like one of them. Drink moar koolaid. :chiefsay:

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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Some entitled female noble posted:

"I kind of look at BAH as a piece of my salary. For someone to say I should get paid less because of who I'm married to doesn't really seem fair," she said.

:lol:

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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

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It's obvious what needs to happen. Forbid service members from marrying each other.

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