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Tremek posted:Hark, a mythical "new Porsche buyer" spotting! Thank you for doing your part for the betterment of society and taking a depreciation hit for those of us that want one down the road. It's a company vehicle so buying new isn't as terrible, otherwise I always buy used. My previous car was an S4 so the PDK + V6TT is a really close analog to the DCT + supercharged V6 and the PDK is miles smoother and more refined but it also doesn't seem as aggressive when pushed. The V6TT is good but not up to par with the effortless power from the S4 3.0. I haven't gotten to play with a Macan with PASM so it's not completely fair to compare the 2 directly but as a DD Porsche I can't imagine being disappointed. I took a hail mary on the air suspension too so that should at least make it look better even if it doesn't affect performance that much. Either way not much my problem since it's going to be my wife's and still the 2nd fastest SUV in the household 
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The Macan just rolled in earlier this week and so far I'm very happy with it, especially because my wife is happy with it.   The air suspension and PASM make it surprisingly comfortable but still razor sharp around corners and the PDK is surprisingly smooth compared to my old a DCT S4 which was noticeably snappy. The only driving complaint is that it's gutless from a stop unless you mash the throttle or keep it in sport mode. It might not be bad compared to most cars but the S4's supercharged V6 had oodles of torque low and my Jeep is probably one of the best examples of responsive throttle so I might be spoiled. When the revs come up it's terrific though so it's not a big deal, but still surprising and I wouldn't expect them to set up the programming that poorly. The interior is really well put together and feels like a spaceship but the infotainment is a bit clunky and the mid-level Bose stereo is average but once again I'm spoiled by the Jeep's HK system. Still don't regret passing on the 4k to upgrade to the top stereo though, especially since it's not my DD. Family shot (my wheels are crazy dirty) 
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Hello again Porsche thread. I'm tentatively in the market for a 911 in the 30-45k range as a weekend/whatever car. I'd consider a Cayman but the back seat is a big deal since it allows a booster  seat. So from what I've seen the 05-08 S seems to be the sweet spot for performance, price, and reliability but I want to know what issues to look for and options are must have. My rules are manual, coupe, and prefer RWD (since our other cars are AWD). I know of the IMS issue but what else is there to beware of other than the obvious used car garbage?
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blk posted:Just done did 1500 miles with a buddy in his 911 and thinking again of Caymaning (because the two cars are All things being equal I'd go with the S because other than being a better car it's a better color since Porsche owners seem completely retarded for silvers and grays. Also that appearance package is excellent and even if you don't love it I bet it'd help resale quite a bit.
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Posting this amazing Cayman with a Coyote engine in it because Porsche nerds are super mad about it. I would already have another Porsche in the garage if engine swaps like these were more common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTAJqax1TQo
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Pulled the trigger on a local '99 996 to see if I'll actually use a fun 3rd car. It's getting PPI at Steinels in Cleveland in the next day or two then I'll be tooling around in it until it's too cold. I figure I'll keep it for a couple years and if I use it a lot I'll get a newer turbo as a DD and retire my JGC SRT into a winter beater and tow vehicle. The current owner runs a detailing shop and obviously loved the car plus it's nearly bone stock (muffler bypass, going back to stock setup though) and in incredible condition somehow.  
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DrakeriderCa posted:Is that a Turbo or Turbo Look? Just the standard aero kit, Sport Design wheels, and someone painted the calipers at some point but it's missing the turbo's scoops in front of the rear wheels and lower bumper vents which are the big giveaways.
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slidebite posted:GREETINGS FELLOW 99 996 OWNER It's pretty light on options, just pretty much power seats but I would have liked the LSD but those don't seem too common. The aerokit is oem but probably dealer installed and I wonder the same on the wheels since they aren't in the options code but I think a pretty hefty number of early ones were done by the dealer. The build is 3/98, probably not far from yours, since we both have the Raby special and especially since we both have the early amber tails. The IMS is stock and honestly I'm going to leave it because for the price it'd make more sense to risk the $5k difference between selling the rolling chassis with a blown engine compared to pouring money into a 5% failure rate problem. Here's a ton of pics the current owner did after ceramic coating earlier this year and man, detailers are some crazy dudes about showing off their work. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zvhlf93mwyfneyb/AADALcABBNIVeeaFntUieclya?dl=0
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slidebite posted:You are correct, the dealers did, and still do, all sorts of official installed extras and of course the option sheet won't show them. A previous owner added the litronics in 03. Since I know the aero isn't factory I bet if the dealer installs it they have stickerless hood because it's still the right parts but without the car specific details. I'm tempted to try to find the original dealer and ask them for the original sticker because I haven't had a chance to look through the documentation myself but I'm pretty sure they'd tell me to gently caress off rather than go back 18 years of records for some guy. Worst case I'll let Steinel's tell me if anything's weird because they have a stellar reputation. Assuming it's clear then I'll probably do that AOS adventure this winter  willroc7 posted:Whatup fellow Cleveland/Akron goon! That seller actually offered to trade me that 911 for my B7 S4 I have up on craigslist. Small world. I considered it more than I should've even though it would be my daily and I have a carseat in the back of the S4. Do you ever cruise around CVNP? Not really but I'm reasonably close and cut through sometimes around Bath but if cruise through often you might see my wife's Macan parked because she runs the towpath a few times a week. I'm in Wadsworth and work in Medina so I don't go in that direction a whole bunch. I actually bought the 911 because I missed my B8 S4 that I traded in on the JGC because that was an incredible car.
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willroc7 posted:Well if you ever want to go for a drive I know a few nice sections in Bath, so I probably will when I get something. In the meantime maybe I'll run into you in the hulking SRT on Wheatley or Everett sometime 
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Elephanthead posted:So 23k and you would be good to go until the next big service? Kinda, there's still like 500-1000 in Old Car Things that aren't big deals and it needs new tires since the old ones are cracking since they're 8 years old with the rears worn down about to the bars. willroc7 posted:Yowza, although that seems like a good price for all that work. I figure I can do the water pump but the other prices are pretty good for a premier Porsche specialist taken individually. It's just sticker shock from most of the main long-term issues need to be handled soon after buying instead of just dealing with them as they come and it's awkward to push the seller too hard since he only had it for like 8 months before becoming a business partner in his detailing shop and being tight on money. He had his mechanic go through stuff but not a Porsche specialist so he didn't really check for the problems well and he might end up eating some cash because of the owner(s) before him missing or just punting on maintenance while they had the car. I don't really want to break it to him that 'Hey we agreed on 19k but the PPI came back with 4k in engine work and 2k for misc stuff and tires."
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Yeah, Steinel's pretty much thought it was a nice car and would be fair at ~18k since there weren't any problems that were unusual, just a lot. I'm going to toss it back to the seller and see if he wants to drop the price but I'm not going to press him hard since I know he's had it for sale for months and I'm not in a hurry so if he doesn't make it worth my while maybe a nice turbo will pop up in the meantime Edit: the coolant valves thing was actually just the coolant bleed valve leaking Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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I was ready for ~2k in repairs since I was planning on an eventual IMS replacement plus the standard old car minor issues but not 4k+ in engine work plus new tires in addition to the minor stuff. I also don't expect the seller to drop below 18k but I'd have to get down to at least 17k to feel ok about it since there's a guy on rennlist with a nearly identical non-aerokit one and all that maintenance done recently asking 19k, not that I'd buy that exact one.
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Elephanthead posted:Are Canadian Porsche 911 federalized so I can easily import them to the good old USA? I'm pretty sure they are since I see them swing between countries surprisingly often. In 911 news I might just take that one for 18k since it seems reasonable vs similar cars but first I'm going to check out a local turbo that might be a Car of Poor Decisions.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:If you can afford a Turbo just get that. They last a long time. http://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum/882512-557-764-miles.html There's another guy on rennlist that went 360k on his 996 turbo with first clutch and is now over 470k. I'm checking out a turbo tomorrow but it doesn't have a service history but might be cheap enough to absorb deferred maintenance if there's a bit. Nothing pressing though and I can wait years without feeling bad so v0v Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Elephanthead posted:So a turbo is 40k? Well sorted. A well sorted non turbo should be 20k. Hmm. Maybe I throw the turbo out there and get the wife to cave on the non turbo. A good turbo is 45-50k but there are some in the 35-40k range with 100k+ miles still in good condition. I'm checking one out with an unknown service history and 95k miles but it's in excellent cosmetic condition so we'll see if it it's like that other 996 where everything underhood is questionable. If I can get it for 30k then I'll probably just take it directly to a specialist and have them pull the engine and do every major item like pinning coolant pipes and a GT2 slave conversion all at once so I end up with a mechanically perfect car for under 40k. I doubt it'll happen though but worth a shot. edit: wow http://www.clevelandmotorsports.com/details/?vin=WP0AA2991XS622104 Single owner 99 with 14k miles at the dealer we ordered the Macan from. Hmmmmm Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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The mileage is too low for me because the condition isn't worth the price premium and in the 'it hasn't had a chance to break' way. It deserves to go to some some porsche kalvick. Also that price is non-negotiable and they actually hold to it since it's determined by the central office and not the dealer, I've tried pretty hard on a 997 that dealer network had a few months ago and they wouldn't drop a cent. That one ended up being worth the actual price anyhow (on the surface) and when I called to put in the deposit and send it for PPI they said that oh yeah FYI 1 maybe a 2 wheels are bent so I bailed on it. I checked out the local turbo today and holy poo poo what a wreck. The dealer ?owner? had been using it as personal car for a few months and put 1500 miles on it so it was covered with grime, the kickpanel fusebox cover was missing, some grommets and misc interior cover pieces were gone, and some of the underside bolts for the bumpers were replaced with coathanger wire. The questionable owner was a ~25yo greaseball dude with a ponytail, tanktop, and tattoos who said that he loved the car because it had an awesome headunit. Also there was bubbled paint from rust on quite a few prominent edges and one muffler was caved in from backing onto something fairly big. It was awful and that thing will never sell, but it did sound great when I got there and it was idling in the lot while the guy was getting ready to go pick up some food. edit: I could always get this http://www.ebay.com/itm/152308581269 Be sure to check out the interior Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Nov 8, 2016 |
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slidebite posted:I hope that this project is done. Any further updates would probably mean I hosed up I'm simultaneously jealous but thankful it's not me when I see how much work you're putting into it. I even have the Bentley manual for 996s now sitting on my desk, taunting me.
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fknlo posted:Sorry, have my eyes on this one now It's higher than most cars but generally it's RMS/IMS, water pump, an occasional cracked head, or rare catastrophic engine failure (d-chunk) with lots of minor things that would cost $100 on other cars costing $500. There's a lot of luck to getting a good one and from watching rennlist for a few months you can see how most dudes get away with only routine basic maintenance while a couple will blow engines out of nowhere. Overall I don't think the regular cost of ownership on a 996 is that much better than a 996TT because the TT engine is a reliable beast and upgrades don't cost more than the car's chassis is worth. For me an early good condition 996 is worth it so that if the engine blows I can sell the rolling chassis and just eat the $5-10k but a 996TT also makes sense long term because as minor things break it's worth putting more money in to upgrade because they hold value pretty well and the platform/engine are both reliable and good*. *By reliable and good I mean compared to the high-end sports car world where $2k in maintenance a year for 5k miles driven is a good year.
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fknlo posted:Thanks! Consider the previous gen Audi TT RS. It's considered the backwards 911 and is tiny, blisteringly fast, AWD, reliable compared to a 911, moderately priced, and a hatchback  . I almost went that route but I just had an S4 and want something less practical as a summer car.Also it has one of the best exhaust sounds of any non-supercar, that turbo 5 is nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=712UsVIuLvY Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Then czech this out, one of the sketchier threads I've seen on Rennlist but potentially a great steal http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/957967-2002-porsche-911-996-c4s-looking-for-a-quick-sale.html Also this one which is being touted as a deal on Rennlist https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ctd/5840318465.html Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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That one's been for sale for a little while, I think on Rennlist or 6speedonline. I remember seeing that dopey shift knob recently. I don't really understand why it's on BaT since it's about average and there's some really awesome cars out there but good for him since he's going to get like 10% over normal going by what other 996s recently got there. If I was going for a 996TT I'd get this and never look back: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/automobiles-sale/399131-porsche-911-turbo-2001-canadian-car.html. It's a stunning deal and importing is like 2k tops and it has the pinned coolant lines, full maintenance history with good ownership, and a really solid mod list. Depending on a couple drives I'm doing tomorrow I might even move on it since a non-silver or black 996TT is impossible to find for a reasonable price.
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slidebite posted:That link didn't seem to work but found it. I was serious about that 996TT but I ran a carfax and has 2 accidents but I'm going to ask the owner if he has concrete repair info for them out of curiousity. One was very early and over 1000CAD but the 2nd was a few years ago and under 2000CAD but not being up front with it makes me wary. There's a good chance he has no idea because people get blinded by perfect condition and perfect service history though, I've nearly fallen into the same trap. I'm tempted by literally anything, what were you thinking about asking? I'm hooked on the dumb aerokits but a solid car is a solid car. I'm doing a little background on http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=439272603 because it has the mods I'd probably do and was maintained by a known good Porsche shop. The Autotrader ad is sketchy but he has it up on the PCA and 6speedonline classifieds and is just a middle aged dude with 3 other Porsche's looking to upgrade and has more details there. He tracks the other cars and seems like he used this as his nice day street car, hence the simple good mods and it's a nice factory aero with LSD so he knows what's up. If I can get it for 21k and have a clean PPI then I'll likely settle for it so I can have all winter to put it on a lift at work and mess with it in my spare time.
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slidebite posted:I contacted that guy with the blue tt. He told me he got into a single vehicle accident and needed to replace the bumper which he did and sent photos. The accident looks worse than I think he is letting on and the fit of the bumper does not look right. Pitty because the car is nice that it's a 6spd with just the right amount of options. Go nuts, I don't get a great enough feel from it to make it worth the extra effort to import at the moment. Here's the carfax info 
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I finally got a chance to test drive a manual 996TT today and while it's certainly crazy fast, oh my god the clutch is so terrible. I'm still rusty so there's that, but I've driven quite a few other manuals in the past couple months and it was bar none the worst in terms of weight, feel, and engagement. Now I know why I always read people bitching about it and talking up the GT2 conversion like it's required. It has like a foot of throw but when you let it out it only engages in the last inch, you can't feel when it's grabbing beyond the engine bogging a little, then it goes from 10% to 100% immediately. I even kicked my shoe off to try to get some feel but no difference. Think I sold myself on an NA 996 after today because I can't imagine driving that on a routine basis.
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fknlo posted:I might try to get ahold of the guy selling one here in KC this next week so I'll let you know what I think about it if I get to drive it. Thanks but I'm really only looking for 99s currently because they're cheap and are slowly getting special status as the best 996 because of the good IMS and the last with mechanical throttle. As slidebite mentioned, leading Porsche dude Jake Raby crowned early 99s as the best because of ~reasons~ and hinted to get one as early as possible but the key for finding one of the good ones is the 993 style 4 spoke steering wheel. That aside, that KC one looks like a nice deal with the right kind of ownership and mods. Barring an incredible deal on a 996TT I've decided on getting a 99 996 and when I'm up for a new car in 2-3 years I can reconfigure the fleet based on my actual car usage. edit: At least that's the plan, if a gorgeous newer one pops up with the right options/color/mods/price then all bets are off. Either way I don't plan to sell this car because I don't expect 996 values to drop much at this point so it's more of a starting point for a stable of cool cars since I have unlimited garage space and a dedicated mechanic shop at my disposal at no expense so if the 99 is the 'collectable' cheapo 996 then it's the smartest choice. Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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kimbo305 posted:Yeah, there's definitely a specific aesthetic they seem to like for each brand. For Porsche, it leans toward the Singer look: To be fair it's hard not to like Singers and that 996TT is a nice one but it's just funny how everything that gets on BaT goes over market price since it has enthusiast approval. I just love the crazy aero Porsches I grew up envying like this and if it had a rear seat (lol) or airbags (lolx2) i'd probably have that retardo thing in my driveway. I couldn't bear to bring home some awesome car and not let my daughter ride in it so for the next couple years it's 2+2s only. On a related note this has been nagging at me for a while because it's beautiful and at a great price for the condition http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/959740-1995-993-manual-midnight-blue.html edit: I also got hooked because in my old neighborhood there was a nondescript 200k house with an old Tacoma in the driveway who one day had his garage door open and inside there was an orange 996 GT3 RS and a light blue 993 GT2. It was unbelievable and when I'd go past his house afterwards I'd always check them out and think "I need this. One day". Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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I like that color combo, clean and unique, but that purple color is amazing. In 996 search news, I'm bouncing emails with this guy which is like an enthusiast version of the one I tried to buy. So far no red flags despite the couple cosmetic issues since all the 'right' mods were done plus every major maintenance already covered and done at a reputable Porsche shop. We shall see.
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I'm a big old dumb and I tried the 996TT again and rescind my earlier thought on them. The clutch still sucks but I'm going to wait for a good higher mileage one to come along because I neeeeeeed that speed. I tried to want the normal 996s but I just never got the rush I did from the TT probably because I DD the torquemonster Jeep and the excellent handling of the 996 didn't do enough to offset the power difference for bombing down back roads. Now the wait begins~
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slidebite posted:Oh I can't imagine being happy with a normal 996 if your first experience was on a TT. That said, if you open up the NA 996, it gives out a gratifying sound and power boost as the variocam comes into play around 5000+ RPM. It redlines at 7300 and keeps sounding better and better as you get closer to it. My first few test drives were on C2 996s and 997s but this past week was my first 996TT try and holy balls it is incredibly fast. I kind of talked myself into the responsible 1999 996 choice but honestly I intend to build up a stable of cars and the TT makes the most sense long term since mods are worthwhile. I can't see how that Canadian one is worth over 30k USD since it has 2 accidents and high mileage so I'm going to watch it closely as it drops. I'm also watching that BaT one but it'll probably go for 38k-ish despite being worth like 33k. I'm in up to 32k but I'm not a fan of the interior and the $1500 buyer's premium is straight up bullshit when that ad is literally a worse version of what the dude had originally on 6speedonline and doesn't give any other benefits to the buyer. Edit: attempted to bid, cockblocked by credit card's fraud prevention thing and missed the end. gently caress that. You'd think they could come up with something better than charging my card $1550 when I make a bid. Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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kimbo305 posted:Wait, so isn't this a good price by your estimate?: It was a very good price and I was in for 32k but since BaT actually charges your credit card for the entire 5% premium when you bid I missed out since I couldn't re-bid on my phone fast enough after clearing the fraud alert from VISA. I'm still mad about it. It's pretty much exactly where it should be for a good 996TT with solid mods at ~32250.
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kimbo305 posted:Welp, good to know if/when I see that must have car on there (Viper Green 944 with an LS swap). Morning update: still mad. Here's a kind of close one, just paint it green https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/5835452868.htmlIt's like 10 minutes away from me and keeps popping up in my searches.
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willroc7 posted:In other akron local news, how catastrophically bad of an idea is it to get an old Cayenne? I don't think they're terrible and for that price you couple part it out and probably make money if needed.
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