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Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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kimbo305 posted:


Every time I fire it up, I wonder "is this the day the motor will poo poo itself? Does engine failure have a plan?"

I find your lack of faith in superior German engineering disturbing.

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Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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5 RING SHRIMP posted:

I've often seen and heard the best way to get to know cars is to take one apart completely and put it back together.


I think the go to starter car is a VW bug. I also recommend a straight 6 engine truck.

I also don't recommend taking a car apart as fun. If you insist label and store everything in groups with pictures.

It is way easier to fix a non running car with good paint then the other way around.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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So this is how those guys end up with yard full of so many cars that they no longer need lawn mowers.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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How does Canadian sales tax on a car work, can I buy a car without paying it if I plan on smuggling (legally) it to the USA? Toyota refused to sell me a new car that was already federalized because loonie exchange rates went bad for them. It seem a lot of porsches went north and are already federalized or were federalized even if sold initially in Canada. Plus a lot of never driven in winter cars (the good 2wd ones).

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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blk posted:

Best plate



Is that the guy that makes a million bucks selling the solution?

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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TacoHavoc posted:

What do you guys think fair value for this car is?


IMS bearing is being replaced could mean all kinds of bad things, specifically the owner trades it in cause the bearing granaded the engine.

Looking at polar911.com they may specialize in selling porsches and bmws so they might just do an IMS swap on the bad year ones.

Looking at the black coupe they have they include the same changing IMS and RMS blurb so they either do that to every car or just put it in every ad.

Elephanthead fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 1, 2017

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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kimbo305 posted:

I'm in agreement -- if you want a convertible, just go with a Boxster S.
I think 15k 996s are out there.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262982940726

drat it kimbo you are going to get me in trouble buying a non ppi 996 that will blow up in a week.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Red_Fred posted:

Does anyone daily drive a 928? How ridiculous of an idea is that? I've lusted after one of these for so long and feel like I just need to do it. They seem to be going up in price and aren't getting any younger.

With living in an apartment I can't work on anything myself (which would be my ideal) so I would need to get stuff done by a shop. How much would I be looking at yearly?

The prospect of this is frightening. Finding a shop that is competent is probably impossible. Anyway your best bet is finding one that someone has spent a ton of money on and now realizes that making bad choices does not need to continue forever.

That said I am calling the guy with the ebay 911 that has been half way to the moon and has the engine the just explodes at random times because race car.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Red_Fred posted:

Yeah I suspected as much. What about daily driving a 944? I don't actually need a car to get to work or anything but being without one for weeks at a time could be annoying.

I might see if I convince my parents to provide part of their garage for me.

Just buy one that is LS swapped. The solution to every automotive problem. Applies to 928 and 944.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Wait when I read Rennlist everyone is a jerk when someone does their own work and makes the slightest mistake, and then if anyone says they are just taking it to the dealer for service they are chastised for being checkbook owners. I think Porsche owners are just all jerks, and since I am a jerk I think I should own one.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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If everything is at the dealer, if you plan on selling in the future, some people will say oh nice all the records are from the dealer this person cared for this car I will now buy it right before the engine explodes into a wallet emptying spasm.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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kimbo305 posted:

Hmm, some specialist.

Yeah I have kinda soured on the 996 because I don't think the specialists around here are competent. There is one air cooled guy though but he will die any day now and the air cooled ones have gone up so much in price the hell with that.
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/6180875905.html

This would be the one I would buy though.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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As an accountant unless you are expensing this to screw your partners this is a terrible financial decision on the level of buying a used car from Kimbo, however I approve this purchase.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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This is why I drive a miata, by the time I reach 55 I am where I was headed to. (Insert BRZ to update joke)

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Looking at that boxster I doubt it has ever seen over 4000 rpms. Sometimes you can love too much. Let me know the over limit report when you buy it.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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I have seen those wheels on a lot of 2000 ish Porsches before I bought a ford.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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European cokes are the normal 8 ounce size but they are not in ounces.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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cailleask posted:

Hi thread-- so I'm wing-manning for a friend (because he's a terrible negotiator) to go look at a Panamera. I don't know crap about that car, though, besides that it's a 4-door and looks oddly stretched. Can anyone point me in the right direction for some resources so I don't sound like a total moron at the dealership? I've negotiated a decent handful of cars, but certainly never a Porsche.

It really is no different, test drive the car and take it to carmax for an instant quote. That is the wholesale value. Know selling prices and what you want to pay before you go. (Your friend is going to buy the car even if they don't cave to your price so don't sweat it.)

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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it looks fine, you going to roll it over and smash it anyway.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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The large space between the numbers made it look like extra autozone drunken purchase.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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No one wants a cabrio, if you insist find out if the IMS was replaced at an authorized installer, with the old bearing sent for inspection, and find out how long the warranty is from LN directly not the seller, (They will probably be out of business before you can ever make a claim though anyway). $20,000 is no steal but not terrible. I would want to pay 15 if I were buying it.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Umm like exploded pieces or wrenched apart at the engine builder pieces?

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Groda posted:

What was the Porsche model from the 80's (?) that was legendary for unreliability?

The 928? It is easily fixed with a LS swap. I am still kicking myself for not buying an $6,000 that was already swapped. The speedo didn't work or the tach so I had doubts about the quality. I just wanted to troll the porsche club and track days.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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slidebite posted:

Meh, it'll probably still climb a bit but it's got a lot of little negatives about it.

In other news, I'm considering dropping the motor and doing the timing chains/paddles purely as preventative maintenance on my 99.

Then I started thinking, if I do that, how far should I go? And THEN I started thinking... I wonder how much a Raby Flat 6 Innovations refresh would go for.... and if I sold the car in a few years how much of that I might get back...

:thunk:

When I was in the market it seems a Raby engine adds about 10k to the sales price so you get some of the cost back. It might just be that I am assuming a lower non Raby price then is reasonable though. I bought a mustang because a replacement ecoboost 4 banger is $800 on ebay in running condition with all accessories. It seems mustangs have a 20% crash rate per year or something.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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The 996 also got advice from Toyota on how to build a car for less than $70k bucks so as not to go bankrupt. Then Porsche discovered they could sell SUVs to dumb Americans and all was saved.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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News flash, porsche are not hondas. Spending 40k to replace upgrade an engine is just what you do. 1 year wait times for the best engine guys.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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willie_dee posted:

But don't the turbo 4's make a fair bit more power?

So does a ford mustang but you won't see my $1,500 designer jeans sitting in one.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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willie_dee posted:

Why are Boxsters holding their value so much better than other cars when on paper they are so similar.

2007 Z4M is worth about £13k, a 2010 Boxster S is asking £25k!

I get that the recession happened in between and good sports cars stopped selling new so the market doesn't exist like it should, but it's really annoying because I want a decent handling car with a good auto box and they don't make them.

Buy a $3,000 1997 boxster and forget the rest.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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willie_dee posted:

The only reason I want to change is to get the PDK box, I've even been looking at TT RS's but the mk2 are a bit wank to drive apparently and that's the 2010/in budget model.

Yeah I noticed those are expensive, probably better off with a 911.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Residency Evil posted:

Should I sell my 2015 Cayman S? I love it but rarely drive it apart from the weekend/autocross. Guy is offering 52k. I bought it for 55k 2 years ago. I'd probably replace it with something boring like another GTI when I start commuting again, and then maybe get either an air cooled 911 or a Spyder at some point.

Yes

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Residency Evil posted:

Negotiating with the guy right now. Out of curiosity, why is everyone telling me to sell? Just to try something different?

:ohdear:

Caymans seems to depreciate like rocks and when we hit an economic downturn the number of buyers will drastically decrease. Plus isn't the warranty about to end? If I know anything about limited production cars it is that they like to poo poo the bed about year 4.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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I get bored with a car after 6 months, 250 a month is a pretty cheap cost of ownership. Unless you are never going to sell the car, selling it now is when to do it.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-porsche-911-turbo-awd/6749354269.html

Just going to post this here I don't know if the car is legit or not but don't make me buy it.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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It looks like 996s have increased in price to make a 997 similarly price, well pre 2009 ones anyway. Assuming you ignore all cabs and tiptronics. Anyone got a 997.1? I sold my oil burning ecoboost mustang and now that winter has blessed me with lower dumb car prices I am shopping.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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kimbo305 posted:

I'm tripping up on what you mean by this: "to make a 997 similarly price"

I'm still seeing a 10k gap between cheap 996 and 997s.

Hmm I am not finding any cheap 996 but I live in porsche desert, the midwest.

My choices are between 20k 996 and 25k 997 which are obviously 5 to 7 years newer. For car I would consider purchasing. Now if I can find a 12k 996 with a new water pump and AOS I would jump on it and do dirty things to it.

Elephanthead fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jan 9, 2019

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Most Canadian cars are already federalized. That probably came from the states anyway. Congrats on upping your AI addiction level!

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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meatpimp posted:

3. This seems like an unbounded money pit. It doesn’t look like a well-travelled path except by truly insane people with much more money to burn than I.

This is true for every P Car though. I does seem particularly high dollar per actual enjoyment hour ratioed.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Russian Bear posted:

Are the 07-08 Caymans suppose to have a "reinforced" ims bearing?

Cars made in 2006 to 2008 model years (potentially anything manufactured from 1 January 2005 to the end of the 997.1 model life) received an unserviceable bearing type

Yes

No one can tell you if the one you buy is better or worse off though. Check for metal in the earl.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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They shape their butter into pig heads, nice. Unfortunately they don't have a sign so I can't tell if they have the ultimate pig eating another pig BBQ sign quality rating.

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Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


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Motronic posted:

I wasn't aware that Suncoast went through to find the magic sauce resistor LEDs that will work, but that's not terribly surprising I suppose. Still seems like much ado over very little benefit. Especially when you have some porsche housings that will fog in some climates without the heat of an incandescent to drive the moisture out. (yes, this is documented, by Porsche)

Shouldn’t the resistor produce the same heat as what the bulb would?

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