Attorney at Funk posted:

This is hosed up and not true.

Angry Grimace posted:

I like hearing the FFL stories they tell and things that caused cards to get cut from the set. That was how Warleader's Helix ended up in DGM - the card was a Lightning Helix reprint, and then everyone in the FFL started running UWR with Helix and Snapcaster Mage and then they said, "let's not print this." They already had the card art ready to go, so they designed a less playable version last minute that would be able to use Lightning Helix art, but not be Lightning Helix.

Entropic posted:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27
Whenever they post FFL decklists I always wonder how much it's warped by things having different stats or mana costs or what have you in development. Some of their lists just look obviously weird. A UB control deck that runs Temporal Tresspass and Worst Fears but only 2 Dig Through Time?

Entropic posted:

It says right underneath the decklist that Cruel Edict was originally in Fate Reforged but got cut.

Zoness posted:

C'mon didn't you watch DBZ? Frieza's final form is way smaller than his second and third forms.

mcmagic posted:

The deck that is going to want to counter a stoke to the face or a creature isn't going to really care that much about the tempo factors of bringing back a Soulfire or a Seeker that you're bringing up. I think the majority of the decks that will play this won't have a legal target for the return a 2 power creature from the GY mode. Jeskai aggro would LOVE to be able to protect their MantisRider/Seeker/Soulfire/Rabblemaster from a kill spell and draw a card...

I Love You! posted:

Not rabble!

mcmagic posted:

It doesn't though. You don't get to keep attacking if it dies in combat and you don't get Seeker's Prowess and Lifelink.

I Love You! posted:

^^Jeskai tokens is a very good deck with a few important weaknesses, anything that shores up those weaknesses could catapult it back into the realm of T1. Jeskai control was also once a very good deck and could be once again.

Guys I think in the wake of these ho-hum cards we are missing the real discussion which is how the return of Rebound totally makes Goblinslide and Scroll of the Masters the hottest tech in the magic multiverse

Swagger Dagger posted:

This is assuming the biorhythm ability is going to be useless 99% of the time.

En Fuego posted:

I was hoping that she would be tri-color, but I am really okay with this card. Narset is so awesome.

I need to read the Uncharted Realms, but it seems like not accessing the R mana that is inherently within her causes the spark? That would be a neat reason.

Angry Grimace posted:

I don't know that "you have a 50/50 chance to draw a card" is a great use of 4 mana, and in control her -2 is basically just double-Treasure Cruise.

bhsman posted:

e:fb but Narset is really cool.


I didn't think you'd still be butthurt about me mentioning Goblinslide a whole day later, but here we are.

bhsman posted:

There was an entire spat yesterday where he assured me he wasn't making a personal attack and then called me mad for people insulting a pet card that I already admitted wasn't great, so yeah.

mcmagic posted:

Narset's rebound ability would be pretty nuts in Jeskai Tokens with Acendency out...

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

Narset + doubling season is going to lead to so much EDH salt

Symphonie posted:

Zoness posted:

Tarkir 3.33: You can (not) speculate.

Angry Grimace posted:

Risen Executioner
Creature - Zombie Warrior
Risen Executioner can't block.
Other Zombie creatures you control get +1/+1.
You may cast Risen Executioner from your graveyard if you pay an additional (1) for each other creature card in your graveyard.

Angry Grimace posted:

I'm guessing the "exploit" is recasting him after using an Exploit ability, e.g. Sidisi-2 (who is also a Zombie).

Nehru the Damaja posted:

That is the least mythic mythic since like... Archangel's Light.

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Yeah it's a good card for limited and though I'm skeptical about its constructed use outside EDH, you can't ever really ignore perpetually recurrable creatures.

It's just boring as poo poo is all. There's no mythic pop to it.

Angry Grimace posted:

The funny part is that when that happens, they are usually stuck with the art and have to invent a card that fits the art, rather than the other way around. See also, Warleader's Helix.

Niton posted:

Even if it's not Force of Will proper, I could see them trying a free counter variant that plays homage to it. Especially in the block that brought us Treasure Cruise.

Attorney at Funk posted:

It's definitely Force of Will, and they're going to spoil it along with the Wasteland reprint which is also assuredly in this set.

Lancelot posted:

here's a screencap so you don't have to sit through the community manager attempt to inject inflection into his voice like a real human

mcmagic posted:

Landfall only turns on if the land is under your control.

Lancelot posted:

stop replying to mcmagic posts

GonSmithe posted:

Entropic posted:

I love this. I just wish it was like a 5-mana 5/5 or something instead of a 6-drop.

Spiderdrake posted:

So the phoenix turns over and suddenly raptors everywhere! I think this might actually be good? It's certainly cool anyway. Raptorvine.

dragon enthusiast posted:

Would it have been more accurate to make it a Bird Beast

mr. mephistopheles posted:

These opinions do not align with my own.

Rinkles posted:

Mini impulse

whydirt posted:

Impulse is also not a great name for a blue card (Maro has mentioned this on his podcast before). There's nothing impulsive about draw-go control.

An impulse reprint would be fun for nostalgia reasons, but I can also understand not wanting to let the old misprint back into Standard just because of people who will end up shuffling because the card says to.

Gyshall posted:

Here is a man

Entropic posted:

Impulse would probably be OK in Standard, it's probably a case of them being wary of letting Modern have it.

neetengie posted:

might have missed this earlier but why is zurgo a bellstriker now?

neetengie posted:

No, just wanna know the story reason for him becoming a bellringer now.

Chamale posted:

When Sligh first came out it was dominant, because that deck invented the idea of a mana curve.

I played Ironclaw Orcs two years ago in a Legacy Tribal Wars tournament that had a special price for anyone who went 2-1 with a deck using only cards from the first five sets in Magic history. That one didn't work, but I managed to go 2-1 with a land-destruction Bird tribal deck the next week. I had to run Bird Maiden because those early sets do not have many birds.