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There's no watermark, so the latter. Entropic posted:Nah it's just the mandatory goofy do-nothing red rare enchantment. You know, this is actually one of the better ones because it's cheap and actually kind of does something.
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bhsman posted:I think they just have the Khans as various not-Khans. In the Khans future the naga rule over the Sultai and in Dragons the best of them has been reduced to a zombie. Surrak has become the Huntmaster and kind of a huge racist? Taigam is with the Ojutai this time around and Zurgo is the Bellringer for the Kolaghan. Only person we don't know about is Anafenza. Yeah, this was what I called last thread after the Uncharted Realms article(not that it was hard to figure out at that point).
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Angry Grimace posted:There's a note that it says it was cut, which makes me sad since I like Edict effects a lot. I imagine it was cut to let stuff like the Heroic cards have a chance (since Cruel Edict would basically eliminate the Heroic decks from existing). Its possible they thought it ran too much into Merciless Executioner. My guess is that it actually turned into Merciless Executioner.
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It's too bad that they're almost certainly not going to combine brood mechanics, a creature with dash and exploit would've been sweet.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I suspect Temporal Trespass was heavily nerfed after it was realized how crazy TC and DTT were in eternal formats. I mean it's a 5 mana effect (Time Warp) for 11 including 3 coloured, while Treasure Cruise is a 4 mana effect (Concentrate) for 8 with only one coloured. FRF was 100% out development's hands by the time KTK premiered in the real world, based on what they've said about the process in the past.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:What, was it like literally being printed when KTK came out? I know they finalize cards way before they're released, but I don't see what would stop them making an emergency change. Read through the timeline here. Edit: The section that's titled "so how did gottlieb know it was broken?" Or read the whole article, it's pretty interesting.
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Angry Grimace posted:The part where Mirrodin has just come out, and development is sitting around going, "gently caress gently caress gently caress what are we gonna do about skullclamp?!" and then just hoping nobody notices is really funny in retrospect. It probably wasn't funny at the time because it was loving Mirrodin block and they already had hosed up with a full cycle of artifact lands. The artifact lands actually weren't broken right when they came out, Broodstar Affinity was simply a good deck. Affinity didn't become a broken deck until Darksteel.
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Spiderdrake posted:Which is why they only banned the Darksteel cards in the deck! Yes, that was worded poorly. I should have said that they didn't start doing broken truly broken things until Darksteel came out.
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Excluding Dragon tribal shenanigans, I don't think this card is Standard playable because it's worse than Ashcloud Phoenix.
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STiL. posted:Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? We're just going to see dumb dragons and the idiots serving the dumb dragons; there's no conflict left to keep me interested especially considering we can assume that the status quo has been upheld for 1200 years. Personally I'm hoping for/expecting some sort of revolution.
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Mar 3, 2015 06:33
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AlternateNu posted:Did Taurean Mauler ever see play for reasons outside of being a Changeling? Taurean Mauler saw some play in aggressive red decks. I don't think this dragon will because it's a 5 drop that doesn't do anything immediately and doesn't protect itself, but it's a really cool card and absurd in limited.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:25
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Count Bleck posted:And then you get the stuff nobody expects to be good but turns out is, like Kiora and Keranos. Speaking as someone who's more pessimistic than most about new cards, I thought Kiora was a fine card. Keranos, no, I did not think he was eternal playable.
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I don't think many people would've been that surprised if Keranos was Standard playable, but playable in older formats kind of blindsided a lot of us.
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I don't think the Shaman is bad if your deck is basically all creatures, Fyndhorn Elder is a fine card. If not though, yeah it's pretty useless.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:59
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Angry Grimace posted:That Mythic is worse in every real way than Elvish Mystic. Yes, but firstly I see no reason why every mythic has to be better than every common, and secondly I think it still might be playable if the right deck pops up.
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Starving Autist posted:Not every mythic has to be constructed caliber, but that ability certainly feels mythic. Maybe they could print it on a rare, but I don't know. an 11 mana activated Biorhythm that you can't always use?  I don't entirely agree with Grimace's perception of the power level, but honestly that card doesn't feel mythic to me.
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Mar 3, 2015 17:10
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Starving Autist posted:It's a mythic for Timmy, not a mythic for Spike. I'm aware of that. I don't think it's particularly cool, even for Timmy. I could easily be wrong, though.
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Mar 3, 2015 17:13
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Angry Grimace posted:Except this guy costs 3 mana and a card. He isn't worth it for his abilities and stats. Bad card is bad. If your entire deck is a creature ramp deck it's an accelerant that taps for 2. The last ability might as well not be there, but if a ramp deck that's almost all creatures happens to exist, this guy slots right in. He's not great or anything, but he's a 3 drop which taps for 2.
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Mar 3, 2015 17:27
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Angry Grimace posted:There are 3 dorks in Standard that are all better though. a) Yes, he's worse than Courser and Caryatid, but those guys will rotate out soon. b) The kind of deck I think this guy would fit in wants more than 12 rampers. I should note that it's entirely possible that that deck will never exist in Standard; this card is not powerful enough to single-handedly cause a deck to be created.
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Mar 3, 2015 17:43
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Yawgmoth posted:I don't know if it'll work out well, but I definitely want to try to make this work in Sidisi Whip. This dragon is awful.
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Mar 3, 2015 18:22
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Mr. Peepers posted:Boltwing Marauder might be a decent curve-topper in a R/B or Mardu tokens deck. It's a decent enough threat on its own and combos real well with any token maker like Outburst, Rabblemaster, etc. However I don't see it clearing the "is this better than Stormbreath" hurdle. I'm incredibly dubious about 5 mana creatures that don't protect themselves or provide instant value, I think they basically have to be Baneslayer tier to see constructed play.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:eat your heart out rorix Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this
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Rorix saw a lot of play back in the day and Kolaghan is somewhat better. On the other hand, the power level of creatures has gone up significantly since then. I could see this going either way.
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7thBatallion posted:How soon before a From the Vault series do we typically see spoilers? Anxiously looking forward to Angels, but it's not til August... I don't really keep close track of FTVs, but I don't remember them giving spoilers other than maybe one or two splashy cards at big events; rather, they'll just release the entire list of cards at some point.
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I like the existence of Narset because she's pretty good(although I don't think she's as good as most of you think she is because her +1 is roughly "flip a coin. If you win, draw a card"), but, while she's good in Limited, she's not some sort of insane bomb.
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mcmagic posted:It's more like "Roll a die, if you roll a 1, 2, 3 or 4 draw a card." Hmm? Your deck is going to have 22-26 lands and some number of creatures.
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mcmagic posted:The decks that play her don't want creatures. Maybe Jeskai Sage or something like that but not much more. If your only creature in Standard is Jeskai Sage, how do you plan on winning the game? In older formats, you're going to run at least Snapcaster. Regardless, we're nitpicking.
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Anyway, let's talk about some of the new cards that aren't Narset, shall we? This guy seems good to me with the new 2RR dragon and Stormbreath in some sort of RG aggro shell.
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mcmagic posted:It's bad. The RG aggro deck wants to play a Rabblemaster or a Flamewake Phoenix on T2 and if not that, it wants Heir which attacks through alot of the good stuff in the format. That card is also pretty weak off the top later in the game. I feel like it's more conditional than bad; if there are enough cheap, efficient dragons to make this guy consistently a 3/4 for 2 then I think it's fine. Will there be? Still too early to tell.
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ScreamingNinja posted:Hey not sure if this is the right board but i figured id ask since i couldnt find any other one. I was at a draft yesterday, and im just getting reacquainted with the game. Anyway i was playing some guy who wasnt paying attention and ended up drawing out hos entire library. On his final turn, with no cards in his library, he activated tasigurs ability which is: "Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a nonland card of an opponent's choice from your graveyard to your hand." Yes. There's no conditionals there, and you don't put the cards into your graveyard as a cost, so it just does as much as it can.
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forbidden lesbian posted:I can't believe they're reprinting Yawgmoth's Will personally I'm shocked that they're reprinting Bargain no, not Yawgmoth's Bargain, this one
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goferchan posted:Weird that Salt Road Ambushers is the only card in the cycle of uncommon Megamorph creatures with a clan watermark The white, black, and green ones all have watermarks. Still weird that the whole cycle either does or doesn't, though.
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Starving Autist posted:It makes sense, though, because the red one is this force of nature that exists independent of the dragons, and the blue one is just this tiny salamander that evades the attention of any of the dragons. The others serve the dragon broods to some extent. I'm not saying the flavor of each card doesn't make sense; they do. What's weird to me is wizards printing a cycle that's partially watermarked, although as I'm typing this I'm realizing that it's not really a cycle and more a group of dudes that all happen to be uncommon megamorphs.
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Symphonie posted:It probably is a cycle, but they don't put watermarks on cards that go in multiple intro decks. It's a cycle in the sense that it's 5 uncommon megamorph dudes, one in each color, but the similarities basically end there. They're all costed differently, behave differently when played, and so forth.
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I just want to know what Durdle Turtle is going to do in Dragons' future, hopefully he'll exist and be better.
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