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BryanChavez
Sep 13, 2007

Custom: Heroic
Having A Life: Fair
Well, we can just take a look at one of the most recent books, Run Faster, and see!

On Dwarves posted:

One of the most significant disadvantages to their insular and well-connected nature is it feeds into the conspiracy-esque view of dwarfs as hoarders of wealth. Dwarf-owned shops, especially those in less well-to-do neighborhoods, are frequently targeted by the dim masses in search of dwarven gold. The urban legend of well-connected dwarfs who operate as go-betweens for illicit corporate operations and keep certain valuables, such as credsticks and electronic stock certificates, has only helped fuel these rumors. Especially when these hidden wealth caches are discovered.

So they're literally Jews, got it.

On Orks posted:

As the second-most populous metatype on the planet (behind humans) with a growing youth population working alongside the recent discovery of Or’zet and rise in popularity of orxploitation music and films, an emerging culture for orks has strengthened and penetrated the mainstream. But it is not a culture that will make much of the world happy. The popular lyrics of orxploitation goddess Orxanne—”live fast, die young, best behind a smoking gun”—are not the counterculture rap one would expect, but instead the growing cultural norm for a metatype that is starting to find its stride and possibly turning some of its simmering discontent outward. It is most interesting to me when looking at this blossoming culture that its greatest proponents, the megacorporations behind orxploitation, are fueling the fires of revolution. While the great powers of the world will not be brought down by an uprising of enraged orks, they could risk losing a portion of their heavy labor force if said workers were to decide they wanted a nation.

Though this trend is building with the youth, there is still an interesting cultural trait that has been developed by the old and young alike, and that is the power of their women. From their youngest days orks are brought up in a mostly matriarchal household. The males are absent for a variety of reasons. One significant reason is that over half of all male orks are incarcerated at least once before their sixteenth birthday (justice systems tend to treat them in a harshly punitive fashion), and three times more orks are in prison than attending college at any one time. The remaining orks are usually off working at some long-hour, heavy-labor job, leaving the females at home to ensure the kids are raised right (though “kept in line” is probably a better term). This behavior leads orks to have a remarkable amount of respect for females of all metatypes, especially ork women. Hassle a female ork in the presence of her male kin, whether they know her or not, and expect some serious ork muscle to be coming your way.

This leads me to another trend in ork culture: the pack mentality. Some have made the derogatory connection between the robustus tendency towards multiple births and that of dogs and litter births, but this similarity is truly more of a positive. Orks are rarely alone as they grow up and thus develop a strong pack mentality. Since more orks grow up on the street than in a corporate enclave or upper-crust neighborhood, they are wild and often in need of protection, and thus behave similarly to a wolf pack. They protect their own; “blood and kin outrank all, but tusks first” is a common credo of the orks. They’ll take up arms nine times out of ten in defense of others of their kind if they feel they’re being harassed or wronged for being an ork, and sometimes they don’t even need that deep of a justification. If an ork gets in a tussle and other orks are around, expect a mass melee.

Literally Blacks and Latinos, but also literally animals, got it.

On Ork Intelligence posted:

Mental Characteristics: Hobgoblins demonstrate base mental limitations similar to the standard robustus. They possess a quicker temper, which was once considered a cultural phenomenon but has been shown to be a variation in hormone levels. The hormonal variation can also explain their enhanced scoring on EQ tests, which leaves the, with an odd combination of empathy and simmering anger.

On Ork Intelligence, Part 2 posted:

Mental Characteristics: Oni seem to possess the same intellectual limitations as their primary species. This diminished intellect has been tested across both indigenous Japanese oni and those born outside Japan. While similar in intellectual level to the base metatype, oni possess, on average, a greater EQ and force of personality.

On Ork Intelligence, Part 3 posted:

Mental Characteristics: Satyrs lack the mental limitations of their primary subspecies. They also score exceptionally well in adaptive thinking tests and have an above average EQ. These qualities have led satyrs to become one of the more well-adjusted robustus metavariants. In most cases, they also tend to adapt better to society at large than their primary subspecies.

The Bell Curve is your favorite book, got it.

On Jesus Christ, Really? posted:

If you’ve never been pulled aside and questioned for walking while tusked, you won’t understand why this jacket comes with taser-resistant lining.

gently caress off.

So yeah, I'd call it meaner poo poo than 'handled poorly', personally, but it's definitely handled poorly.

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BryanChavez
Sep 13, 2007

Custom: Heroic
Having A Life: Fair

Elfface posted:

What is the context on those Shadowrun ones? Because to me, it comes off like it's written in-universe by a racial apologist. Like, it's supposed to seem super racist and show you how people see orcs, rather than how they actually are. Like Ronwayne said about 'Zimmerman did nothing wrong'. It's the right analogy - You can shoot an orc and get away with it, because 'the streets were his weapon'.

So, in most Shadowrun books, including this one, you'll have the bulk of the text on a single subject written by a singular figure in-setting, giving a more-or-less objective viewpoint. In this case, it's the only viewpoint given in the entirety of the 20~ page chapter about metatypes. If the main text is meant to be seen as biased or uncertain, you'd then see text below each section, emulating a forum conversation, with other people offering their own opinions, calling out the author for being a racist, etc. There are none of those in this chapter, which is indicative of the fact that it's meant to be taken seriously and as an objective account.

Nothing else in the book is meant to feel like it's feeding you inaccuracies. It's just a player's guide, expanding on rules and setting information. It absolutely does come across as written by an in-setting racist, but nothing says that's the case. There are objective, out-of-setting boxes in each section that offers how to use these ideas and concepts in the game, with nothing suggesting, "Maybe these aren't true.", just things telling you how to handle being an ork, which is more wolf than man.

BryanChavez
Sep 13, 2007

Custom: Heroic
Having A Life: Fair

Bob Quixote posted:

Does this make any sense?

No, it doesn't make sense, pointing out that races in fantasy map uncomfortably closely to races in real life isn't weird, especially given how loving weird and lovely fantasy has been about race over the years (and gender, and politics, and...). These things are written by people, people with opinions, beliefs, and unchecked assumptions, and there's no reason to believe that they weren't putting them in their writing and every reason to believe they were. Sure, not every example might hold water under scrutiny, but there's no reason not to go, "Hang on, is this doing what I think it's doing?" when you come upon a possible example of it.

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