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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Don't play games that do confederate apologies.

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

KittyEmpress posted:

To combine with the above, a lot of companies are afraid of changing concepts that have been around for a long time. Look at what happened when a single D&D setting got large changes in 4e, and a bunch of gods died. Now imagine them saying 'oh yeah, and orcs? not actually completely evil, theres lots of neutral/good orcs, they just work different from how most humans would like.' Shadowrun is the same way - 5e feels like it wants to justify orcs and trolls as not dumber outright, but just with different brain chemistry. But they look at how the lower stat cap has been there since first edition and go 'ehhh maybe just pointing that out is enough...?'


It's dumb, and bad, but nerds and thus nerd companies are afraid of change, so we get racism from the 80s when games first came out, still out there today because they're afraid to change it.

We've seen this very sentiment in the now-departed Grognards.txt. How many posts were there about 'This is bullshit, unless orcs are literally baby eating monsters this game is too PC!'

Or the people who feel like 'Yes you should totally murder the children of Evil Races because they're Racially Evil' is an important part of the Old School Experience.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Kai Tave posted:

Wasn't the deal with the Salamanders chapter some sort of hilarious clusterfuck where the original description talked about them having black skin (due to their geneseed, all space marines tend to be pretty cookie cutter) and so some Games Workshop artist painted up a bunch of them in African skintones. Only whoops, there was later an official retraction where it turns out that they actually meant "coal black, not, y'know, the other sort of black."

Their skin color was referred to as 'a genetic flaw'.

Wonderful implications, considering GW's 'African' figure line way back when for Fantasy.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Well, also, FFG is way better about that kind of stuff than GW itself.

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