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Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.
At first I thought the title was a reference to Werewolf: The Apocalypse, 'cause man that game was full of tying real-world people to its splats.

Boadicea was a werewolf. The Russian royal families were alternately Get of Fenris and Silver Fang kinfolk. The Bone Gnawers were involved in the Russian revolution, but the Bolsheviks were actually secretly controlled by clan Brujah vampires.

I mean, I know oWoD is replete with this poo poo, but the mixing of real-world history and politics with the splats seems most prominent in Werewolf.

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Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Ryoshi posted:

Isn't it implied by VtR fluff that Jesus (or maybe just Longinus) is a vampire?

Longinus is definitely a vampire, at least according to the theology of the Lancea Sanctum: according to them, Longinus was punished by God for being pretty much an rear end in a top hat, the last straw being him poking Jesus with a spear while he was on the cross. The Lancea Sanctum believe that the purpose of vampirism is a curse from God and that vampires are, in a weird way, chosen by God to keep the fear of God in people.

Having said that, VtR is actually pretty good about avoiding any definitive origins for vampirism: the various factions all have their own theories about the origins of vampirism, and because vampires forget things as they get older as succumb to torpor there are no vampires with living memory of the origins of their curse around. This is much better, IMO, than oWoD's vampires being all descended from Caine, because it basically stated that the Abrahamic religions were right about God, which got confusing when you added the other supernatural splats whose metaphysics were just as true but in conflict with Vampire's.

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.
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