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you hosed up europe a half century ago and you are going to gently caress it up again
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Mar 8, 2015 02:28
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Who is this old lady.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:28
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ich bin homosexuell
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Mar 8, 2015 02:31
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Anschluss der Österreich again imo
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Mar 8, 2015 02:32
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We have to deal with German regulators at my job, and they are the biggest rear end holes.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:33
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Bitch looks like literally hitlers granddaughter
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Mar 8, 2015 02:34
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Mar 8, 2015 02:34
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TEAYCHES posted:you hosed up europe a half century ago and you are going to gently caress it up again if they do it nice and legal-like from the comfort of their own sovereign territory it doesn't count
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Mar 8, 2015 02:36
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What did Germany do? I wasn't watching.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:45
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But really what are the Krauts doing this time? Genocide again?
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Mar 8, 2015 02:45
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Reminder that the Christian Democratic Union was co-founded by Nazi party members, therefore they are the Nazi's successor party - hth.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:45
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grexit is german for goku
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Mar 8, 2015 02:54
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germans seems like they are awesome as underlings but loving suck at ruling because they hold everyone else up to their impossible standards
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Mar 8, 2015 03:01
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Mm, and they don't even reach their own 'standards' generally. See the increasing poverty in Germany for reference. They may all be Turks, however.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:08
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To the D&D mods let's be clear that this was a thread intended for GBS and I would never post this in your august subforum.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:22
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To put some context into the original post, here's Wolfgang Schäuble: Here's Yanis Varoufakis:  In my opinion, one of the best reasons so far for giving Greece much easier terms, is to go back to the Treaty of Versailles. Yanis Varoufakis himself referenced this, much to the consternation of his German colleagues. Currently Greece is wracked by humanitarian crisis and a burgeoning Nazi party. Historically, this does not tend to pan out well in the long run. Greece has bought itself a few months of time to put together a more coherent plan and gather itself, but it's up to the Germans to come to their senses and not force Greece to come to impossible terms.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:28
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So when are us Yanks scheduled to invade?
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Mar 8, 2015 03:31
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JebanyPedal posted:Who is this old lady. have you been living under a rock for the last 22 years? how do you not recognize hillary clinton?
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Mar 8, 2015 03:31
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 I think it's time for some new leadership in Germany.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:34
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In my opinion, I think it's weird that Germany is attempting to enforce political rule over the Eurozone, a system which has no effective democratic political structure.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:35
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babypolis posted:germans seems like they are awesome as underlings but loving suck at ruling because they hold everyone else up to their impossible standards germans are slow, dim-witted and authoritarian, and in a successful campaign of propaganda have turned this into a positive by calling it efficiency and punctuality
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Mar 8, 2015 03:40
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bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Berlin
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Mar 8, 2015 04:41
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Europe's problems in the first half of the 20th Century had a lot to do with Germany thinking it had some kind of Special Destiny. Europe's problems in the first half of the 21st Century have a lot to do with Germany refusing to accept that destiny.
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Mar 8, 2015 04:44
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Smudgie Buggler posted:Europe's problems in the first half of the 20th Century had a lot to do with Germany thinking it had some kind of Special Destiny. I'd like to hear someone who's better informed talk about how or why a fictional Germany Keynesian engine would benefit the Eurozone. Also the differences between states in the United States failing at deficits vs. states in the Eurozone failing at deficits, and what this means as far as democratic political representation goes in an economic union.
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Mar 8, 2015 04:46
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Smudgie Buggler posted:Europe's problems in the first half of the 20th Century had a lot to do with Germany thinking it had some kind of Special Destiny. Hrm yeah, maybe Germany really is on a Sonderweg and are the rightful hegemons of Europe, that seems reasonable
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Mar 8, 2015 04:48
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icantfindaname posted:Hrm yeah, maybe Germany really is on a Sonderweg and are the rightful hegemons of Europe, that seems reasonable Yes because that's clearly what I meant to anybody intelligent enough to know what subtext is 
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Mar 8, 2015 04:50
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Smudgie Buggler posted:Yes because that's clearly what I meant to anybody intelligent enough to know what subtext is i know what the subtext is, i'm saying it's bad and dumb, just like the person who posted it
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Mar 8, 2015 04:53
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icantfindaname posted:i know what the subtext is, i'm saying it's bad and dumb, just like the person who posted it 
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Mar 8, 2015 04:54
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Please don't turn this thread into a flamewar. It's already had difficulties in the cradle and I'd prefer that it turn into an interesting discussion on the place of Germany in the Eurozone, as well as some decent analysis of how economic decisions are made within a system which doesn't seem to allow much political disagreement.
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Mar 8, 2015 04:57
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When the Eurozone was founded did European leaders have any idea that Germany would become the dominant power? If they did, did they account for it in any way?
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Mar 8, 2015 05:02
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ich bin nazi
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Mar 8, 2015 05:02
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I guess a better question from an outsider context, is why are all financial questions focused on Germany? Is it an incorrect reading that Germany is the dominant power? I wonder if what analysis I've read overstates the German command of Eurozone economic policy.
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Mar 8, 2015 05:05
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germans lust for greek deth
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Mar 8, 2015 05:19
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Yeah, whine about Germany's leadership in the eurozone. They're the 'dominant power' basically of necessity, because the eurozone's economy pretty much relies on them totally. Maybe the rest of you slackers should start pulling your weight, yeah? Then maybe the germans would be more inclined to sit back down. ninotoreS fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Mar 8, 2015 |
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Mar 8, 2015 05:26
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ninotoreS posted:Yeah, whine about Germany's leadership in the eurozone. Is it a case of necessity? I'd like to read a better analysis of how this really works. While Germany is an engine of production they aren't plurality of production, are they? Does that give them political hegemony?
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Mar 8, 2015 05:31
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TEAYCHES posted:Is it a case of necessity? I'd like to read a better analysis of how this really works. While Germany is an engine of production they aren't plurality of production, are they? Does that give them political hegemony? I'm just saying Germany shoulders a lot in the eurozone. More than any other member individually, I think. Naturally, this results in them believing they have a right to authority. And that's not unreasonable, is it? ninotoreS fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Mar 8, 2015 |
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Mar 8, 2015 05:36
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TEAYCHES posted:I'd like to hear someone who's better informed talk about how or why a fictional Germany Keynesian engine would benefit the Eurozone. One major difference is that the United States has a federal fiscal policy, and despite its failures, this means that state budgets can and do rely on money given to it by the federal government and paid with federal taxes, so the rich states subsidize the poor states through the mere fact of progressive taxation on a federal level in a way that creates much less Greece-style political jostling. In fact, the most recent crisis along these lines involved states rejecting Federal funding for expansion of Medicare!
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Mar 8, 2015 05:41
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ninotoreS posted:I'm just saying Germany shoulders a lot in the eurozone. More than anyone else. Naturally, this results in them believing they have a right to authority. And that's not unreasonable, is it? That depends on what scale political democracy exists, from which German authority is derived.
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Mar 8, 2015 05:41
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Germany has the money, money is power and influence. Not hard. Don't be a poor.
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Darth123123 posted:Germany has the money, money is power and influence. Not hard. Don't be a poor. Is that good? Is it just? By what principle does Europe pretend to be founded upon? Maybe in the short term, might is right. But in the long run, political legitimacy is an important question. How many crises can Germany take the reigns on and not suffer further political intransigence on the part of weaker European states?
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