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How much does gifv own comapred to regular GIF
A whole lot, it's way better
just a bit better, but it is an improvement with no loss in function
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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

imgur.com/blog/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv posted:

GIFs are no longer about .GIFs–the culture of the GIF now trumps the file format. With Project GIFV, Imgur is reimagining the looping GIF video with all the richness it deserves as a key piece of Internet culture.


Whats not to like. You save bandwidth. You don't lose any functionality. If a site doesn't support gifv, you can just link directly to the gif.

Gifv rules :c00l:

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du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO
tbh i read this and immedaitely decided to post :gas: but then read the sig again and was placated enough to say that why is gifv not inlined in sa yet

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
if you would like, I have done a userscript you can use to inline them (not gplv3, but it is open sores)

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
gifv is literally just webm

like, the server straight up serves a .webm

imgur is jealous of gfycat's success

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
not a bad thing!

websites that support webms can support gifv in the exact same way, all thats needed is s/.gifv/.webm/ in teh url

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

i do not care

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Bloody posted:

i do not care

:gas:

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

counterpoint: no it isn't.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
yes it is

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
anything to stop people from doing 50mb+ gif embeds

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
u know i know how
my :chome: cant even handle gifs right now

Flat Daddy
Dec 3, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
i like my memes to load fast and play smooth

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

bobbilljim posted:

u know i know how
my :chome: cant even handle gifs right now

yeah even reading the pics thread has gotten almost a chore now

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

bobbilljim posted:

u know i know how
my :chome: cant even handle gifs right now

this but all :chome: forever

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Flat Daddy posted:

i like my memes to load fast and play smooth

chome gif rendering is absolutely shameful

firefox is ok but switching to webm would benefit us too, so, no reason to balk at it

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

Silver Alicorn posted:

chome gif rendering is absolutely shameful

firefox is ok but switching to webm would benefit us too, so, no reason to balk at it

why is it that chome cant render gifs for poo poo but firefail can? its loving weird and i demand an explanation

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

apng would address all of this if browsers just loving supported it

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

du -hast posted:

why is it that chome cant render gifs for poo poo but firefail can? its loving weird and i demand an explanation

I can't find the bug reports for some reason and I can't be assed to keep looking but iirc: it has something to do with the gif decoder locking up the render thread while it's decoding, so rendering anything in that tab slows to a crawl until the gif decoder is done. defective by design

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
of course with firefox the bottleneck is download speed and streaming a 5mb webm is way faster than downloading a 50mb gif, even on fast broadband

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

mishaq posted:

apng would address all of this if browsers just loving supported it

how are apngs made easily

GIMP wont do it

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

bobbilljim posted:

how are apngs made easily

GIMP wont do it

https://www.reto-hoehener.ch/japng/ :downs:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
thank

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

mishaq posted:

apng would address all of this if browsers just loving supported it

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
lmao I'll believe it when I see it

they've been "fixing" it since 2012

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
what does gfycat use

also


is webm like gif, like appropriate for pixel anims or is it more like MPEG

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
webm uses lossy compression (vp9 codec)

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

mishaq posted:

apng would address all of this if browsers just loving supported it
apng is cool but typically gives even bigger filesizes because people use it to showcase their bespoke artisanal pixels at full quality, compared to gif's 8bit shittiness and multi-frame optimisations, or having vp9 take a big poo poo over it with webm

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
webm is good but gifv is bad

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

echinopsis posted:

what does gfycat use

also


is webm like gif, like appropriate for pixel anims or is it more like MPEG

webm and gifv and gfycat are all mp4s as far as im concerned and thats probably all you need to know

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

jony ive aces posted:

webm is good but gifv is bad

they are 99% the same

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

what was the format people tried to float that was html5+jpeg flipping?

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
gently caress

I think it was a goon project? forget what it's called but it was actually just an svg with jpegs embedded

so it didn't need a browser plugin

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
svg ftw

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
oh hey

http://blog.mecheye.net/2014/10/xng-gifs-but-better-and-also-magical/

actual video codecs look better for video though imo

Captain Cool
Oct 23, 2004

This is a song about messin' with people who've been messin' with you

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

what was the format people tried to float that was html5+jpeg flipping?
is that the one apple used for no-plugin spinning products a few years ago? http://www.tuaw.com/2012/10/16/how-apples-iphone-5-website-works/

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

bobbilljim posted:

they are 99% the same
yeah exactly

gifv is just webm with a pile of poo on top

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
i thought webm was vp9 codec or whatever "not h.264, nope, no patents infringed here, no sir!" H.264 knockoff Google was trying to get everyone on board with a while back, while .gifv is just an mp4 and thus uses h.264 codec

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
i guess they do webm or mp4 on the fly

so webm for lovely browsers made by freetards and google, mp4 for good browsers.

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MORE CURLY FRIES
Apr 8, 2004

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