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Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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Stieber looks unbeatable. Quick question, I went to a school that didnt have a big wrestling program, at the big wrestling schools what's the attendance like at a meet?

Seltzer fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Mar 21, 2015

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Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Uh oh Dylan Ness left shoulder is hurting.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Oh no Dylan has to injury forfeit. :smith:

Edit: it's going to be Isiah Martinez vs Realbuto in the finals.

Miching Mallecho fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Mar 21, 2015

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Seltzer posted:

Stieber looks unbeatable. Quick question, I went to a school that didnt have a big wrestling program, at the big wrestling schools what's the attendance like at a meet?

At the very top tier 10k+, but only schools like Iowa, Minnesota, and Penn State pull that. The second tier is schools like Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Oklahoma State, Cornell, Missouri, and some others. They'll have around 2-3K. After that the drop off is pretty steep.

Mardragon
Mar 4, 2004
Cinderella boy... Out of nowhere...
Yam Slacker
At Lehigh its out of control, pure silence until there is scoring, then tons of noise. Like an eruption, and it's deafening. The fans sit very close to the mat, not as close as they used to in the old wrestling hall, where they sat actually on the mat.
Here's the really old setup:
https://memories.lehigh.edu/node/1244

Here's the current setup:


For really big matches they move to the basketball arena, which seats more people. This may not be true anymore but in "The Last Amatuers", John Feinstein points out that Lehigh is the only basketball scoreboard in the country that has advantage one it (a wrestling thing).

We are just a big wrestling school, not s big actual school. Big matches at Iowa and other big 10 schools are huge too.

Mardragon
Mar 4, 2004
Cinderella boy... Out of nowhere...
Yam Slacker
Attendance is 2K at our normal wrestling hall and 11K at the basketball arena.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Yeah Alex Dieringer goes to the finals! ESPN putting Coach Smith as a 5 time national champion :lol:

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Miching Mallecho posted:

Yeah Alex Dieringer goes to the finals! ESPN putting Coach Smith as a 5 time national champion :lol:

As a coach, probably. Thoguh, what's your problem with Gilman?

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:

Yoshifan823 posted:

As a coach, probably. Thoguh, what's your problem with Gilman?

Yeah you're right. For myself I hate Gilman because during the big 10 finals against Alan Waters he straight up left his feet and slammed Alan.

http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/252077-2015-National-Duals/video/761599-125lbs-Finals-Alan-Waters-Missouri-vs-Thomas-Gilman-Iowa

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Yoshifan823 posted:

As a coach, probably. Thoguh, what's your problem with Gilman?

I have a huge problem with Iowa wrestlers under Brands in general. And their fans. Out of bounds hits, punches to the head while getting up, shots after the whistle with intent to injure. All sorts of stuff like that. And the fans eat it up and give standing ovations to it. Gilman and Evans are the current poster boys who think acting like schoolyard bullies means they are tough poo poo. I think they are both garbage human beings.

Also, Brands is a rapist and everybody just kind of lets that slide.

Thoguh fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 21, 2015

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Also Iowa wrestling fans invade every wrestling board on the internet with posting that makes Rivals look like literature. So because of them there's nowhere to talk about college wrestling online.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




It's J'Den Cox time coming up soon, which is the main reason as a Mizzou alum (and a guy that works with his older brother on a fairly regular basis, and has also drank with him--I wouldn't be a proper Mizzou guy if I didn't do this) that I'm tuning in.

God I miss doing commentary for Tiger wrestling.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Dean and Avery is super tense

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Miching Mallecho posted:

Dean and Avery is super tense

Avery should have gotten a reversal there, I think. Or at the very least given the escape earlier.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Of course the Cornell guy is the only one able to give a coherent post match interview.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
J'den goes down! Bah Gawd

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Well poo poo.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Woohoo. Gadson in to the finals!

Also I dunno why they never mention that Cox's win streak begins the match after the last time he wrestled Gadson.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

gently caress yes Snyder!!

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Coon takes out Mcmullan in a loving crazy scramble at heavyweight

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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Miching Mallecho posted:

Coon takes out Mcmullan in a loving crazy scramble at heavyweight

Yea that was real cool.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

That hw match owned

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Goon standings

code:
+----------+------------------------------+-------+
| Standing |             Goon             | Score |
+----------+------------------------------+-------+
|        1 | The Fightin' Mardragons      | 125   |
|        2 | The Fightin' Thoguhs         | 120.5 |
|        3 | The Fightin' sportgenius86s  | 115.5 |
|        4 | The Fightin' ch3coohs        | 95    |
|        5 | The Fightin' Yoshifan823s    | 75.5  |
|        6 | The Fightin' Dalai Traumas   | 74    |
|        7 | The Fightin' Fozzy the Bears | 69.5  |
+----------+------------------------------+-------+

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Actual Team standings
code:
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
| Place |        School         | Score |
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
|     1 | Ohio State            | 86.5  |
|     2 | Iowa                  | 73    |
|     3 | Cornell               | 66.5  |
|     4 | Edinburo              | 64.5  |
|     5 | Missouri              | 60    |
|     6 | Penn State            | 58    |
|     7 | Oklahoma State        | 55.5  |
|     8 | Michigan              | 51    |
|     9 | Nebraska              | 49    |
|    10 | Minnesota             | 49    |
|    11 | Illinois              | 42.5  |
|    12 | Virginia Tech         | 41    |
|    13 | Lehigh                | 39.5  |
|    14 | Iowa State            | 33    |
|    15 | NC State              | 29    |
|    16 | Wisconsin             | 27    |
|    17 | Oklahoma              | 25.5  |
|    18 | Northwestern          | 24.5  |
|    19 | Virginia              | 24.5  |
|    20 | West Virginia         | 23.5  |
|    21 | Pitt                  | 23    |
|    22 | North Dakota State    | 19.5  |
|    23 | Old Dominion          | 19    |
|    24 | North Carolina        | 18    |
|    25 | Indiana               | 18    |
|    26 | Rider                 | 14.5  |
|    27 | Duke                  | 14    |
|    28 | Kent State            | 13    |
|    29 | Oregon State          | 11.5  |
|    30 | Ohio                  | 9.5   |
|    31 | Princeton             | 9.5   |
|    32 | Rutgers               | 9.5   |
|    33 | Northern Iowa         | 9     |
|    34 | Arizona State         | 9     |
|    35 | Hofstra               | 8     |
|    36 | Stanford              | 8     |
|    37 | Lock Haven            | 7.5   |
|    38 | Penn                  | 6.5   |
|    39 | Maryland              | 6     |
|    40 | Wyoming               | 6     |
|    41 | Drexel                | 5     |
|    42 | Purdue                | 4.5   |
|    43 | App State             | 4     |
|    44 | Boise State           | 4     |
|    45 | Chatanooga            | 3.5   |
|    46 | Bucknell              | 3     |
|    47 | American              | 3     |
|    48 | Brown                 | 3     |
|    49 | Northern Colorado     | 3     |
|    50 | Army                  | 2.5   |
|    51 | Central Michigan      | 2.5   |
|    52 | Air Force             | 2     |
|    53 | Navy                  | 1.5   |
|    54 | Cleveland State       | 1.5   |
|    55 | Davidson              | 1.5   |
|    56 | Eastern Michigan      | 1.5   |
|    57 | South Dakota State    | 1.5   |
|    58 | Utah Valley           | 1     |
|    59 | Cal State Bakersfield | 1     |
|    60 | Binghamton            | 1     |
|    61 | Cal Poly              | 1     |
|    62 | SIU - Edwardsville    | 1     |
|    63 | The Citadel           | 1     |
|    64 | Columbia              | 1     |
|    65 | Harvard               | 0.5   |
|    66 | George Mason          | 0.5   |
|    67 | Northern Illinois     | 0     |
|    68 | Gardner-Webb          | 0     |
|    69 | Michigan State        | -0.5  |
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
MSU :smith:

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Thoguh posted:

Actual Team standings
code:
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
| Place |        School         | Score |
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
|     1 | Ohio State            | 86.5  |
|     2 | Iowa                  | 73    |
|     3 | Cornell               | 66.5  |
|     4 | Edinburo              | 64.5  |
|     5 | Missouri              | 60    |
|     6 | Penn State            | 58    |
|     7 | Oklahoma State        | 55.5  |
|     8 | Michigan              | 51    |
|     9 | Nebraska              | 49    |
|    10 | Minnesota             | 49    |
|    11 | Illinois              | 42.5  |
|    12 | Virginia Tech         | 41    |
|    13 | Lehigh                | 39.5  |
|    14 | Iowa State            | 33    |
|    15 | NC State              | 29    |
|    16 | Wisconsin             | 27    |
|    17 | Oklahoma              | 25.5  |
|    18 | Northwestern          | 24.5  |
|    19 | Virginia              | 24.5  |
|    20 | West Virginia         | 23.5  |
|    21 | Pitt                  | 23    |
|    22 | North Dakota State    | 19.5  |
|    23 | Old Dominion          | 19    |
|    24 | North Carolina        | 18    |
|    25 | Indiana               | 18    |
|    26 | Rider                 | 14.5  |
|    27 | Duke                  | 14    |
|    28 | Kent State            | 13    |
|    29 | Oregon State          | 11.5  |
|    30 | Ohio                  | 9.5   |
|    31 | Princeton             | 9.5   |
|    32 | Rutgers               | 9.5   |
|    33 | Northern Iowa         | 9     |
|    34 | Arizona State         | 9     |
|    35 | Hofstra               | 8     |
|    36 | Stanford              | 8     |
|    37 | Lock Haven            | 7.5   |
|    38 | Penn                  | 6.5   |
|    39 | Maryland              | 6     |
|    40 | Wyoming               | 6     |
|    41 | Drexel                | 5     |
|    42 | Purdue                | 4.5   |
|    43 | App State             | 4     |
|    44 | Boise State           | 4     |
|    45 | Chatanooga            | 3.5   |
|    46 | Bucknell              | 3     |
|    47 | American              | 3     |
|    48 | Brown                 | 3     |
|    49 | Northern Colorado     | 3     |
|    50 | Army                  | 2.5   |
|    51 | Central Michigan      | 2.5   |
|    52 | Air Force             | 2     |
|    53 | Navy                  | 1.5   |
|    54 | Cleveland State       | 1.5   |
|    55 | Davidson              | 1.5   |
|    56 | Eastern Michigan      | 1.5   |
|    57 | South Dakota State    | 1.5   |
|    58 | Utah Valley           | 1     |
|    59 | Cal State Bakersfield | 1     |
|    60 | Binghamton            | 1     |
|    61 | Cal Poly              | 1     |
|    62 | SIU - Edwardsville    | 1     |
|    63 | The Citadel           | 1     |
|    64 | Columbia              | 1     |
|    65 | Harvard               | 0.5   |
|    66 | George Mason          | 0.5   |
|    67 | Northern Illinois     | 0     |
|    68 | Gardner-Webb          | 0     |
|    69 | Michigan State        | -0.5  |
+-------+-----------------------+-------+
MSU :smith:

Holy poo poo that negative half point is the saddest thing I've ever seen. I remember when MSU had the Simmons brothers and didn't suck, this is just awful.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Man, I just realized I missed the best 'Sparty no!' setup I'll ever have.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
Haven't seen a program flame out that badly since Marshall.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Medal rounds kick off at 11 EDT today on ESPN3 and ESPNU. They can be fun to watch because the pressure is off now. All these guys are All Americans and out of the finals. The only remaining match that really matters at all is the 3rd place one. And even that doesn't mean much. So a lot of wrestlers will really open up their game for the first time in the whole tournament and let it all hang out.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Waters and Gilman both win to set up a Big 10 rematch for 3rd place.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Mike Evans goes down to Kokesh and Evans' family reaction :lol:

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Waters is kicking Gilman's rear end. I really wanted Alan to make it to the finals but this is good too. :unsmith:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Miching Mallecho posted:

Waters is kicking Gilman's rear end. I really wanted Alan to make it to the finals but this is good too. :unsmith:

I'm just sad Gilman got out of that pin.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Miching Mallecho posted:

Mike Evans goes down to Kokesh and Evans' family reaction :lol:



But they made T-shirts!

I'm down though, Evans is just as bad as Gilman.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Hell of a run for Schopp to lose in the first round and then go on a 7 match run for 3rd.

ch3cooh
Jun 26, 2006

Iowa is pretty much hosed for the team race at this point right?

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

ch3cooh posted:

Iowa is pretty much hosed for the team race at this point right?

insha'allah

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
But yeah - if they win every remaining match by pin they'll have 97 points. Ohio State has 93 right now and even if Stieber is the only win they get the rest of the day they'll have 97.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
And Evans loses again. Guess acting like an rear end in a top hat against scrubs wasn't good preparation for him.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Win by Courts at 174 just locked it up for Ohio State.

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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Finals are tonight at 8PM EDT. The numbers before each wrestler is their seed in the tournament. They'll start at 149 pounds tonight so that Stieber will be the last match.

149: #1 Houdashelt (Missouri) vs. #3 Habat (Edinburo)
Habat spent most of the season at #1 but dropped after a bad loss at the EIWA conference tournament. Entering the tournament, Missouri was expected to challange for the title while Edinburo was an afterthought. But as these two kick off the finals Edinburo is sitting in 3rd place with a chance at 2nd while Missouri has faded away

157: #1 Martinez (Illinois) vs. #2 Realbuto (Cornell)
Martinez seems to be an emerging star and perhaps the next four timer. Will Realbuto be able to derail the annointed freshman before he takes off like Caldwell was able to derail Taylor five years ago?

165: #1 Dieringer (Oklahoma State) vs. #6 Taylor Walsh (Indiana)
Dieringer has crushed everyone he has faced all season and is looking for one more win to get his second NCAA title with one more year of eligibility left. On the other side, Walsh is the most dangerous pinner in college this year and that means he is never out of a match no matter the score. Will the heir apparent to being the poster boy of college wrestling wrap up his second title? Or will the pinner catch him on his back and derail his hopes?

174: #8 Wilps (Pitt) vs #2 Brown (Penn State)
In a deep and tough weight class, Wilps was able to emerge out of the topside with a win over the #1 seed last night, while Brown took care of business on the bottom. There isn't a lot to say here. All of the top guys at this weight have beaten each other up over the past 4 years. Hopefully we'll see a takedown. Maybe even two!

184: #1 Dean (Cornell) vs. #7 Brown (Lehigh)
I think we can all agree that saying no to Georgia Tech football is a good and right decision.

197: #4 Snyder (Ohio State) vs. #3 Gadson (Iowa State)
Gadson, a senior who has fell just short of the finals the past two years, is looking to finally become an NCAA champion, while Super freshman Snyder is looking to start his own legacy. They've met once before this season, with Gadson coming away with a 3-2 win back in December. As you might expect. I'll be pulling hard for Gadson in this one.

HWT: #1 Gwiazdowski (NC State) vs. #6 Coon (Michigan)
Gwiz doesn't know, he doesn't have to wrestle himself.

125: US Zeke Moisey (West Virginia) vs. #4 Tomasselo (Ohio State)
Unseeded Moisey has made a legendary tournament run, capped off by a52 second pin over Gilman last night. Tomasselo hasn't been doing so bad himself, with wins by pin, major, and tech fall on his way to the semifinals before he knocked off #1 Waters in a tight 4-2 match last night. Will the unherelded Freshman end the night as champion? Or will Tomasello end Moisey's dream run and give Ohio State some much needed team points to help in their quest to win the team title.

133: #13 Brewer (Oklahoma) vs. #3 Clark (Iowa)
Brewer earned the #13 seed due to an injury shortened season, but his presence in the finals really isn't surprising. He's scored bonus points in every single match so far, including downright emberassing #1 seeded Dardanes last night in the semifinals. On the other side, Clark is carrying the torch for Iowa as their lone finalist and got here via a close 7-5 win over #7 seeded Gulibon. Will Brewer finish his triumphant return from early season injury and give storied Oklahoma State a champion? Or will Clark give the Hawkeye faithful something to cheer for?

141: #1 Stieber (Ohio State) vs. #2 Port (Edinburo)
Both these guys have dominated their way through the tournament so far. Will Stieber get the last match he needs to win four titles and join the most elite of wrestling pantheons along with guys like Kyle Dake and Cael Sanderson? Or will Mitchell Port channel his inner Larry Owings and derail the champ in his last match?

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