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OP, why do you hate yourself enough to play VC2 more than once?  EponymousMrYar posted:Lanseal being a prestigious military academy is pretty neat. It being the only one is kind of This isn't quite right. They don't have mandatory service, military training is just part of normal schoolwork in high school and University. It's why Welkin in VC1 went straight to a squad-leading Lieutenant in the Militia - he was a University graduate and had military training as part of that. It also kinda makes a dedicated military academy completely goddamn pointless. Internet Kraken posted:So SquadG is filled with underachieving misfits with no drive or ambition to speak of? The G must stand for Goons. Seconding Goon Squad. We'll piss everyone else off by being infuriatingly competent at their games. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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though since in the first game it's mentioned that Gallia has mandatory militia service in it. But I suppose the promising militiamen have to go somewhere to get into the proper army.
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OddObserver posted:Well, they do also have a professional military. Or did before most of it got wiped out in VC1. Of course what they probably really need is an institution for higher-level officers, rather than gifting important From what can be gathered, officer stuff is part of the normal University courses. I actually mentioned that regarding Welkin  . The actual Military is anyone voluntarily joining, they just already have the basic training. The Militia was anyone drafted or who volunteered to join the war effort, and it was actually one of the few times it made sense as to why you got teenagers in your anime warzone.
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Apr 1, 2015 07:21
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Clarste posted:There's no death in this game. You can send everyone straight into a wall of bullets and they'll just end up in the hospital for a couple of days. Their biggest fear is being bullied by the preppies. Which is a real shame considering the first game had permanent death and this batch of disposable meatshields is a lot less likeable.
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Apr 1, 2015 11:34
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xelada posted:I think it's more that they are in dire need of professional soldiers, the last war killed a large portion and there is a civil war on, they can't be all that picky about who they accept. A trained soldier is better than a farmer who knows which end is which on the gun, even if they wouldn't be the best soldier in the world. Even that doesn't work because everyone is a professional soldier. It's part of the bog-standard education that everyone in Gallia gets. The Militia was just made up of everyone smart enough to go do something else instead of make a career of being a soldier.
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Apr 1, 2015 14:45
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Internet Kraken posted:I guess I was wrong. The G doesn't stand for goon, it stands for grind. It gets worse. Much, much worse  .
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Apr 3, 2015 02:41
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The best part is some of them require loving obscure conditions that rely on enemy behaviour. So you have to get your specific guy, into a specific situation, with an enemy cooperating in just the right way. Repeatedly. 
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Apr 3, 2015 16:23
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Lunethex posted:So why can't Engineers do engineer things in VC2 versus VC1? Would you trust anime highschoolers with the care and maintenance of heavy machinery?
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Apr 5, 2015 06:01
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SSNeoman posted:Nonesense our tank is Fight! Our tank is indeed Fight! 
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Apr 6, 2015 06:45
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CommissarMega posted:Yessss Ohhhh we haven't hit the anime nadir of VC2 yet .
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Apr 6, 2015 16:39
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Clarste posted:Wekin's not army, and the Militia is only mobilized for external invasions. Welkin's never wanted to be Army, so why is it surprising that the dorky nature-loving guy gets a dorky nature-loving job? Sure but Welkin's sister was a Darcsen, so that's not gotta be a big thing to him or anything.
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Apr 7, 2015 07:16
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BioMe posted:I also found VC3 was entertaining for the exact same reasons this game is, except it chose a more inspired (and even more tonally inconsistent) premise. Still it's mostly putting the plot of VC1 and VC3 on a pedestal that confuses me when this argument comes up. None of these games are well written. VC1 (and, I presume, 3) both at least managed to get the tone right for the most part with how big and serious the war was, and the more atonal anime bits were generally during isolated downtime events. VC2 goes right off the rails from the word go, which was a real disappointment for everyone fresh off the first game.
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Stalling? Stalling you say? What a thing to do!  .Incidentally I actually met Crispin Freeman once at a convention in Australia a couple years back, where he was running a small panel on voice acting. He's a really nice dude in-person.
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Apr 9, 2015 17:28
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Xander77 posted:Have another post then: Why do you do that random-youtube thing anyway?
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Apr 9, 2015 17:55
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Tae posted:Cutscenes are still shown in full, and partly VC2 should be noted for the VA's because it is 1) A very large cast with non-minor screentime and 2) playing the game itself, a poo poo ton of scenes are fully voiced. And about 30 seconds of audio clips for effects. Reused throughout the whole game  .Hah-hah-Hah .
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Apr 9, 2015 18:03
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Tae posted:They REMEMBERED killing rebels and are STILL more worried about a scrimmage match than...goddamnit, why is Avan making the most sense? To be fair, the rebels are mostly rag-tag idiot grunts. They're up against people they know are much better tacticians and soldiers, and are certain they're going to get their asses handed to them. Again.
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Apr 10, 2015 03:56
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Internet Kraken posted:I'd say giving a quick summary is the best idea unless something particularly interesting happens. Most of the time its just Zeri running around and shooting people in the head. Yeah, there's nothing really to the side missions than what you already see. Maybe just summarize if you pick up a piece for a special weapon off an Ace or something?
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Apr 10, 2015 14:58
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Credit where its due, the "?" Under his "Likes" people list is a nice touch.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:59
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Pureauthor posted:We're never going to escape the Zabi allusions, are we? You mean the family with the dumb brute of a son, the ambitious idealistic son, and the intelligent plotting daughter?
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Apr 14, 2015 17:39
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Anastasiya posted:Okay, so, I didn't actually play VC1. And all the LPs seem to be video, so I can't watch them right now. An LP of the original Valkyria Chronicles just wrapped up. Click here to go read about a much, much better game Cake Attack posted:it's mostly irrelevant "Do as the Federation says, or your beloved Archduchess Cordelia gets a bullet in the face".
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This right here is the moment I just tapped out on VC2 because I knew it was only going to get much, much worse. Please give your underage supersoldier more than just a loving pair of belts to wear, Doctor  .paragon1 posted:I somehow knew that would be who was in the APC. It's just so this game. Maybe whoever tipped of the rebels was also in charge of assigning Class G? Nah, she'll be back in a few missions. Even in VC1, you have three turns to get one of your guys to reach their wounded buddy and declare "SAFE!" before they're dead-and-gone.
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Apr 16, 2015 03:58
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Internet Kraken posted:Its probably a bad sign that at this point seeing that doesn't surprise me at all and just makes me roll my eyes instead. No, it's just there for fetish-service. Valkyria in the first game had actual badass lances.
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Cake Attack posted:selveria had the big baps but i think you're reaching just a little with that one Selvaria's outfit was pretty drat fanservicey, but at least it looked like it had some loose basis in a military officer's outfit. Sylphosaurus posted:Good to see that the fetish japanese writers have for the ever elusive combat data is still going strong. I just generally assume the mysterious "combat data" is the basic stuff like speed, average time to kil-oh God it's EATING THE RESEARCHERS RUN! 
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Apr 16, 2015 06:40
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The "combat data" thing isn't an entirely stupid premise, it just doesn't work when your prototype just smokes everything in sight anyway. It'd at least stick if it turns out your shiny new prototype/super-soldier can't target more than three guys at once or something. Whoops, the right knee keeps seizing up and falling off whenever it moves backwards above a slow walk, who the gently caress designed it? Gerry in Third Division? Go tell Gerry he's fired.Pureauthor posted:Even the 'normal' Valkyrian lances are pretty much useless as actual melee weapons unless you want to use them in a cavalry charge or something. Good thing their owners can shoot giant lasers from them. Or just lob the fuckers like spears through solid armor.
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Apr 16, 2015 06:59
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BioMe posted:Yet it always is. Read the rest of the sentence  .
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Apr 16, 2015 08:17
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BioMe posted:I wasn't disagreeing. Whoops, misread the "yet" as a "yes" .
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Apr 16, 2015 09:04
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Mraagvpeine posted:What are the odds someone is going to develop some sort of Ragnite cancellation device (probably involving wavelength and frequency) that will counter any and all Ragnite based technology? None. Because everything electrical is Ragnite-powered .
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Apr 16, 2015 16:35
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Xander77 posted:So the whole Combat Data (tm) thing was actually about ruining the Combat Data (tm) the Rebels wanted to acquire by deploying their shiny new toys for the first time in the most important mission imaginable. (And to compare them with the prototype weapon, which of course proves superior because that's what prototypes are, right?) Would you rather write "beaten like a drum by a teenage girl wearing a pair of belts for a skirt with an oversized whip" on the Combat Data report, or just lie and state "we did okay against regular forces but got beat back due to loss of the APC's - more work needed" when you have to tell the higher-ups what happened out in the mission? Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 16:01
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Cake Attack posted:i saw this coming The real question is who didn't? Valkyria Chronicles 1 did the siblings-not-by-blood thing too and amazingly had the good sense not to go down this road with it.
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Apr 18, 2015 18:24
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Cake Attack posted:let me tell you about something called a fetish I swear they just got a list of stock fetishes and cliches and just started randomly assigning them amongst the members of Class G before calling it a day on the character designs.
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Krumbsthumbs posted:Pictured: The most damage an Engineer will do in or out of combat. God drat, man.  Agean90 posted:It kinda feels like there was like one or two dudes on the writing staff who wanted to do interesting things with it, then got overridden by their higher ups. That's what I was thinking too. Cake Attack posted:this is actually a thing, called Database Culture. Here is forums poster ImpAtom, who I respect above all others for his knowledge of japanese video games, on the subject (with respect to Senran Kagura specifically.) Wow, that was a really fascinating read. Incidentally, I can actually give an example of it. Meet the main characters from Gundam: Build Fighters Try . Though Fumina, the girl, is actually pretty badass.
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HEY GUYS, PERSONA SOLD LIKE HOTCAKES, THIS SHITS GOIN TO HIGH SCHOOL
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Tae posted:This took way longer than it should've, but I will not suffer alone. That laugh. That loving laugh 
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Apr 19, 2015 07:57
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Drakenel posted:Which loving laugh? Avan's laugh. It plays way, way too often.
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Apr 19, 2015 08:27
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So no-one's noticed the gaping plothole you could ram a tank through? The Rebels have cut off the middle of Gallia, hence the Academy being stuck playing soldier to keep things going sideways down south. How the gently caress did Avan and Brixam get to Randgriz?
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Apr 20, 2015 04:49
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Night10194 posted:Flying pig. They rode. That's just absurd. Porcavian's don't get larger than a small dog, there's no way they'd carry two people  .
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Apr 20, 2015 04:58
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Clarste posted:How are you playing such that you're running out of ammo? Using the same Lancer more than once a turn by the sound of it
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theshim posted:And even that one is handled far better than this...drivel. Man, seeing someone go through it is a good reminder of how much better a game VC3 is and how many regrettable design decisions this game did that were improved upon. Not to say that VC3 is a perfect game by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a damned good one. I'm really hard on this game, but the premise isn't entirely awful. It's just really badly shuffled. Keep Gallia at peace at the start of the game, or at least have the civil war in it's very early days ("over by the end of the month ", that kind of thing). That gives you a few months of High School happiness and sunshine, along with a few occasional reports of the war getting worse in the background. Maybe make the first real mission a training trip gone wrong and running into a rebel patrol. After that have it all go downhill fast with the nasty stuff we've already seen now that they're on the Academy's doorstep and they're getting pulled to active duty  .
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Tae posted:Nope, only the token Valkyrian has any actual super powers. Because they're bigger than people .
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Apr 24, 2015 18:21
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Night10194 posted:Don't, uh, don't men and women serve pretty much equally in Gallia's army? Doesn't that defeat most of the point of Alexis's arc? I mean she's kinda cool compared to the whinging animes, don't get me wrong, but would the army really care if it knew she was a woman? Nope. Your Militia Division's Captain in the first VC was a woman and no-one cared.
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I actually like Melissa's fourth-wall lean-in. It's a neat little way to show she's sneaking about with basic Visual Novel portraits.
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Cake Attack posted:they were a lot rarer. Most of the bad potentials were just (Field Type) Allergy. There were a few ones that were actually kinda neat in their premise though, like one of the older veteran soldiers just could not stand to be around Alicia without his stats dropping because she reminded him of his dead daughter  . Marina was also a devoted Lone-Wolf Sniper, in that her Evasion was awful near allies and boosted when far from them.
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