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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Fried Chicken posted:

Anyways the takeaway from all this is don't support Big Gay, support your small, local gays instead

Big Gay are great campaign contributors to Democrats

Fried Chicken, why are you still in Indiana, when a decent state which don't discriminate against gays is right across the border?

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Sir Tonk posted:

All it's doing is feeding the right's persecution complex, like they needed any help with that.

They'll have a persecution complex no matter what.

So what you do is, you treat 'em like the boy who cried wolf.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Solution: Ban the owners of Memories Pizza from Notre Dame games. They'd cave right fast if football was on the line.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

Ex-Congressman, current-deadbeat dad, future Illinois Senate candidate Joe Walsh will be broadcasting his talk radio show from Memories Pizza in Walkerton, IN.

Now all SA can do to stop him is organize a kiss-in at Memories. That dastardly Walsh, what will he think of next? Cheating on his taxes?!

joeburz posted:

will he be running vs duckworth oh please oh please

He'll tell you to your face that Strokey McStroke ain't smiling his way past the primary, and he'll be the ones to cap the knees of Duckworth's campaign.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

He has said he's "very seriously considering" it, but he won't face Duckworth again even if he does.

Why, what have you heard?

Please, god, anything but Senator Quinn.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

The Irish aren't white, though?

They're as white as all the DP's 'round these parts.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

joeburz posted:

is he going to run again with his stroke problems?

also lol

Him? Nah.

His staff, friends, and everyone on #TeamKirk? Hell yeah they are, they're gonna run one helluva race for him. One good enough that he might even show just how much a duck is worth in the land of pork.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Accretionist posted:

This is out there, but do any of you think that the latinization of the US and the stresses of global warming create a possibility for accession by Central American or Caribbean nations?

Also, if someone wants to make a, "51st State and Beyond," thread, I'd read it. I have an irrational desire for more stars on the flag.

No.

It creates the possibility of assimilating millions of Latinos as white, so that those already here can differentiate themselves from those poor, downtrodden, tired and hungry refugees fleeing the impacts of climate change.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Fried Chicken posted:

I was counting UHC as the public programs for whatever it matters



DoJ has formally charged Senator Menendez (D-NJ) with corruption. Let the conspiracy theories fly

We got universal healthcare thanks to the leadership of individuals such as Rahm Emanuel and Nancy Pelosi.

I think Menendez may be taking some time to hike the applachian trail in the near future.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

McDowell posted:

tsk tsk Senator Menendez

*full MIGF* At least Chris Christie will appoint someone who makes crooked deals with friends inside the state. New Jerseyans don't benefit from transactions in other states.

At least Chris Christie won't appoint someone reputed to frequent Cuban and Venezuelan 'escorts' aka honeypots.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

Quote of the night, "Neville Chamberlain got a better deal from Adolf Hitler." ~ Senator Mark Kirk.

Kirk represents his constituency well. Seems to me Kirk is one of the few good Republicans in the Senate.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

quote:

"You don't go through all of this, and have this much work, just to amuse a billionaire,"

:ironicat:

Yes, yes you do. You whore out your boss to amuse a billionaire. You take calls at 3am to listen to rambles about UFO's to amuse a billionaire. You eat poo poo to amuse a billionaire. What the gently caress kinda lobbyist is this guy?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

TheQat posted:

the climate issues we're currently facing are pretty clearly categorically worse than anything faced by humanity at any other time in history. like by orders of magnitude. and the people who need to be on board with fixing it almost exclusively aren't. also the world is definitely not improving for the vast majority of people at this particular moment in time

I too believe that change can happen and do so rapidly, but pretending that the facts don't tell us things are historically awful is naive.

Climate Change: Worse than Hitler? More on this climate alarmist at 5, Sean.

It won't be the worst thing to ever happen of human making. It will merely change the world and force us to come to terms with our power and depravity.

JT Jag posted:

That was the funniest bit to me as well

Its almost as if this guy has never had to go through the hoops it takes to appease a billionaire and get their money wired directly into your accounts.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

site posted:

I'm sure as a congressman he has access to ones he can borrow as well.

NRA has quite the collection of arms for candidates to borrow.

Just don't try and do a shotgun skeet hunt with 'em without reporting it properly.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

McDowell posted:

Climate change is slow and insidious enough that plenty of people could accept a narrative of God's wrath / diversity as a weakness. Humans return to their default Taliban-like state.

That's already occuring. Thankfully, America is a bedrock of freedom against the global tyrrany of Putinism and islamofascism.

Climate change will test America, and like all tests previously, America has emerged a stronger, more unified nation, with improved rights for African Americans and wider sharing of political power.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

berzerker posted:

Ruin your year, maybe. The next outrage of the week will come around soon enough. This one is even focused primarily on the place, rather than the individual, so just sell the equipment of your crappy pizza place, let the lease lapse, pocket your money, and if you're super worried, move a few states over.

Why move? Do the above and claim you were put out of business by the "gay agenda," acquire a few media contracts to defend RFRA, and become a regular talking head.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Spaceman Future! posted:

go too far, say something outwardly racist or even more indefensibly homophobic, lose everything, die irrelevant and broke.

The american dream :gop:

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Joementum, how can Schwarzenager become President?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Joementum, is there any way for Schwartzeneger to become President? Run for Veep and el pres resigns?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

Sadly, the 25th amendment prevents this. Anyone in the Presidential line of succession who's not otherwise eligible for the office gets skipped over, so he can't even get named Ag Secretary and become President by being the designated survivor during the State of the Union.

Clearly, we need to repeal the 25th like we did prohibition.

South side Chicago family get-together political chat: Despite varied and nuanced opinions on Obama, from "he's a goddamn...." to "He was just a very charismatic man without a plan" to "I liked him, he got in over his head," there is nigh universal support for Hillary

One member rememebered Cruz as "that preacher from Texas, he's really crazy."

Four wishes they voted for Perot in '92.

All made varied jokes about Monika, Bill, cigars where they shouldn't be, and how Hillary really ran things during the 90s.

Hillary '16: She's got the white, middle-class Chicago vote locked up. Except against Christie, everybody loves him.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
'Neoliberalism' has been made a meaningless buzzword by internet leftists. Greater educaional attainment will, hopefully, introduce individuals to the necessities of the real world and show that no government is far better than improper authoritarianism and latin american socialism.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

shrike82 posted:

Well outside of migf

Have you ever worked on policy advocacy for a developing nation, or are you critiquing the best-practices evidence-based methodologies to reduce low-level corruption from the wonders of life in the first world?

It's not 'neoliberalism' to be opposed to low-level corruption and to work to institutionalize high-level corruption into structures which sustain economic growth.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

Quote of the morning, "I wish everyone, including the haters and losers, a very happy Easter!" ~ Donald Trump

I see the donald is trying to bridge that Christie vibe.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
You know what collapsed our economy? Republicanism.

Solution? Contribute to Democratic campaigns.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Lotka Volterra posted:

Democratic policy hasnt been particularly good for the poor, either.

:reddit: the two parties are like, the same, man. why even vote? :reddit:

Democratic policy has been the only thing between the poor and the poorhouse. Relative to the only other options in America, Democratic party is a veritable hand-out to the poor.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Lotka Volterra posted:

Not what I said. Just pointing out a flaw in the idea that poor people wouldn't be poor if they just voted D.

If you wanna put words in ny mouth, I'll help ya out: If the new deal coalition hadn't collapsed, and non-concentrated poor whites continued to vote Democrat, the rate of poverty would be vastly lower in the United States.

Lotka Volterra posted:

Well a lot of our economic woes have to do with Republicans, Republican turnout, Republican policies and other Republican concerns that directly impact the poor. It's safe to say a healthy economy would mean addressing these things and lifting poor people out of Republicanism.

Fixed it for ya.

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Apr 5, 2015

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

icantfindaname posted:

American Catholics are a lot more conservative than their European counterparts, more similar to Evangelicals than them in ways. Francis is making a lot of right wing rear end in a top hat Catholics furious I think

America, in general, is a more comservative nation than the European continent.

Its for our own good. Conservatism isn't incorrect from an ideological basis, conservative policies haven't been implemented in America since Bush I.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

"The doctrine of the United States cannot simply be, 'suck on this'." ~ Barack Obama, hopefully.

2016 Republican campaign slogan spotted

'Suck on this' and 'Yes it can'

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

zoux posted:

Judith MIller has a new oped in the WSJ about :qq:


It's all lolworthy but especially the assertion that degraded chemical weapons that the Bush administration knew about before the fact but determined that they would not be a useful argument in favor of invading Iraq were the WMDs we were after.

The WMD's were Iranian. We succeeded at forcing them to halt their WMD programs. Now, in order to preserve the dignity of the United States, our duly elected Congress must force Iran to own up to their past weapons programs before any sanctions relief is applied.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

JT Jag posted:

I like your jaded yellow dog Democrat character more than your hawkish Zionist one

...yellow dog democrat? Is that some kinda race thing?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Well yeah, I'd vote Democrat no matter what. Its your goddamn civic duty, why aren't you a Strong D in the vote DBs with a strong record of turnout in the databases?

Its also the duty of a good Democrat to take heart from 9/11 and oppose anything that could result in another 2002 shellacking, even if it means pre-emptive war.

Its the primaries where you're allowed to show your flavor of Democraticism. And, frankly, that flavor should be more Rahm and less Warren, if you want the party to have the capital necessary to win national office.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Mr Interweb posted:

I accept the fact that Cruz may actually be a supremely knowledgeable person (dude did go to Harvard and Princeton, after all) but my problem has always been that none of that poo poo matters when you decide to become a Republican presidential nominee*. I mean, what's the benefit of getting a PhD in geology from MIT if you happen to be still be an avowed flat Earther?

*or really just anything related to being a Republican in general

Means you know which way the political winds blow to acquire power.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

CommieGIR posted:

Plenty of morons that can memorize text books and answer test questions.

See also, the Chinese and southern educational systems.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

CaptainCarrot posted:

Nah, I prefer to have a bit less cash and a platform that actually gets the base excited.

Excitement doesn't win elections.

Money wins elections.

Excitement doesn't plaster your face all over TV, it gets you a wikipedia article as a has-been Presidential primary challenger for 1988.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

JT Jag posted:

The Democrats cannot out-shill the Republicans. To do so only leads to inevitable compromising and betrayal of their own platform. The best alternative is left populism.

Money can buy you a shill from any place. When you want your money to purchase some sanity, you give to Democrats.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

zoux posted:

Oh god it's John Kerry all over again.

Hillary Clinton did such a bang-up job as Secretary of State that she left with all her emails in order to make room for John Kerry

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Alter Ego posted:

Yup, just ask President Romney.

Tell me, at what point did R-money have a commanding lead in money?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

JT Jag posted:

Romney and Romney-associated PACs had a significant funding lead during the summer of 2012, after he clinched the nomination

Summer of 2012, he didn't have a monetary lead for how many quarters preceding that? 2 Q's of leading versus how many of being behind?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Looks like Secret Service has another scandal on its hands!

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Max Peck posted:

As a reminder, same-sex marriage is already legal in Iowa. Leaving the question up to the states would have precisely zero effect on anyone in that audience.

Not that anything else he says makes any sense either, but whatever.

It would make the audience feel again. The audience knows not to expect results, they want someone who understands how they feel

Ted Cruz: The touchy, feely kinda candidate

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

ReidRansom posted:

I may have missed any discussion over the weekend or today, but I guess everyone is expecting Clinton will announce in the nest couple of weeks now that she's officially opened a campaign office?

She wasn't expecting Cruz to go all-in so early. Now that R's are hastily jumping in, she's had to move up schedule and go off plan.

She will be in the race by the end of the month, after Paul gives his one-week craziness tour.

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