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Scribblehatch posted:I have drawn conjoined island goddesses of sea and sky. all your female anatomy looks like barbie dolls. if you're going to draw such blatant fap material at least change up the body types once in a while. that is My Opinion.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 16:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 17:39 |
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Scribblehatch posted:Don't be rude. I'm sorry, here let me rephrase: pretty please stop drawing all women like they are the exact same fake plastic doll because it's objectifying, boring, and gross. tia.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 22:09 |
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Colon Semicolon posted:Art's a pretty self-serving thing. Most of it is not meant for anyone but the artist's own interests. Maybe you should go learn to draw and draw the things you want instead of trying to tell others what they're supposed to do? I do draw, and it's usually not with one hand down my pants. I manage not to post blatant fetish material in the art forum, certainly a crazy concept so why exactly do all your robots have giant titties and child bearing hips? what purpose does that serve a robot? we are all very aware that it's just because it gives you a raging hardon. do you seriously not understand why some people would be uncomfortable with seeing some dude's j/o material constantly
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 22:36 |
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not everyone is going to be cool with your robofetish dude. maybe grow a thicker skin if you choose to publicly post your soft core porn in communities not made for that are the big titties where they store their ram
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 23:00 |
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yes, you two are the ones getting upset at any sign of criticism, not me
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 23:05 |
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the truth hurts sometimes
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 23:56 |
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Colon Semicolon posted:what truth would that be that no one wants to see your sexy jerkoff tittyrobots or perpetually nude island animes except other people who also jerk off to tittyrobots and perpetually nude island animes, and they are horribly creepy to anyone not in those categories
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 00:08 |
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Colon Semicolon posted:Okay we get that but what does that have to do with you being unable to communicate that in a way that's not rude right from the get go have you never been to an actual, real life critique before? because, believe me, I am being very kind all things considered. welcome to the art world.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 00:17 |
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I went to art school for four years. crying during critique was a very common occurrence and people who couldn't take it didn't last very long. was it always fair? not at all, but the art world isn't fair and it taught me some very important lessons and made me toughen up. it's a very humbling experience, and one I think all artists would benefit from. no one owes you niceness for your art. art directors aren't going to let you down easy when you plop down nonsense in front of them. if you're just drawing for hobby then fine, whatever, draw whatever misogynistic trash you want. but don't act super shocked when the world doesn't act like a hugbox and give you a gold star for being another gross dude drawing giant titties.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 00:32 |
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first you try to discredit me as an artist because someone who criticizes you obviously couldn't be one, then you try to dehumanize me like one of your fuckbots (for being mean on the something awful forums, a place well known for its niceness) and call me a special snowflake for saying something anyone who has eyes could see. do you have any other deflections you'd like to try? but you're not upset, oh no. that would be me
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 02:31 |
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obviously I bought other accounts to puppetmaster my nefarious anti-tittyrobot sentiment, because multiple people surely cannot find robot pubic mounds distasteful
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 06:39 |
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I really have no interest in being nice to men who constantly objectify women in their art. if you guys drew anything at all besides unrealistically sexy fetishized women in painful looking sexy poses constantly and had any interest whatsoever in drawing things that don't get you hot and bothered maybe I'd be kinder but as it stands, nah. this is my constructive critique: look at actual women when you draw. don't use porn and anime as reference. treat your female characters like people instead of mindless cheesecake and maybe you'll stop creeping people out.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 12:14 |
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Scribblehatch posted:Pardon? is this from your comic where you wanted the main character to be nude all the time so you could show off her sick pink pubes that even 4chan was like woah there maybe not do that
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 12:23 |
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I'm simply going by your posts about how they wouldn't let you post it if she was nude and how it was totally ruining your artistic vision in the comics thread what prudes. maybe the robot could use that buzz saw to cut off her clothes that'd be so hawt
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 12:29 |
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this has been bubbling up for awhile and their response to my original critique was what pushed me to finally lay it out there. it is a subject that is personally important to me as a female artist and it needed to be said. people seem scared to death to step on anyone's toes in this subforum and it's absurd-- I'm not going to apologize for being mean on the something awful forums, especially not when it's about someone's sex drawings. if the mods disagree with my tactics they can probate me. I've said my piece.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 13:40 |
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maybe, but I'm not trying to win a debate or anything, just voicing my opinion. I have taken many figure drawing classes and draw nude women occasionally on my own time myself but there's an obvious difference between artistic nudity and using objectifying angles focusing on butts and tiny waists and unrealistically large racks (a lot of time in the same image which isn't even anatomically possible). it just shows what the artist thinks is important, and it certainly isn't the character, but the character's sexual organs. it makes it look like you don't give a poo poo about women and a lot of women find it gross and I don't think male artists even take it into consideration or realize they're doing it. this is why the whole hawkeye initiative thing was such a hit, it shows how ridiculous the whole situation is. so I'll repeat: please look at real women when you draw. cheesecake is fine and good but have a tiny shred of self awareness. there are so many male artists that flood the field with stuff like this and it's exhausting and depressing.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 15:08 |
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I didn't draw my av but I did make crap's. if you guys need to see my stuff to take my crit seriously I post it in the daily drawing thread as I'm not much of a digital artist. no big eyed goth elves or whatever I'm being accused of now though.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 17:34 |
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it is completely possible to make sexy art that doesn't objectify women. some of my best buds draw sexy art that doesn't. it is easy not to be a big creep if you're self aware and put an effort into it, and you actually care how you portray women. my original complaint was that all of scribs women look like Barbie dolls, which I stand by. I don't draw American cartoons so I don't know what you're talking about on that front
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 17:59 |
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as long as the women in the art don't look like realdolls I'm usually fine with it my mentor senior year was Nathan Fox and he draws some pretty lewd pinup ladies but they all have obvious personalities and he wasn't afraid to ugly them up for the sake of the illustration. he also always drew from reference so even if the ladies had big titties it was still believable because they were based off real women he knew. of course, there were women in my department that absolutely hated his stuff so your results may vary. it's kind of the difference between a hardcore porno and a sex scene in a movie, I think. you can get turned on by both, but it's obvious that one was made just for jerking off to and has little artistic merit. Troposphere fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 20, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 18:50 |
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Scribblehatch posted:I did not make either picture with the intent of anyone jerking off. I'm mainly speaking about tittyrobot man when I say that, since his stuff was obvious j/o material, he even linked to a hentai artist that does similar stuff my main qualm with you is, like I said, all your women have the same exact body type and it's not a realistic one. their waists are tiny and probably couldn't hold any of their vital organs, their torsos are super elongated (influence from the one piece guy probably?) and their boobs are huge and perpetually perky even when they aren't wearing bras. the angles you use usually shove boobs or rear end in the viewer's face. these are all things you can fix, and your art would be better for it.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 19:09 |
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loga mira posted:How the hell can a fictional character have control over anything pls dont trollin yup that's him there are other things for the viewer to rest their eyes on besides rear end and titties, she's leading the action, and she's actually relatively covered up besides the slit in her skirt. it's still an obvious pinup but it's visually interesting and has character.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 19:26 |
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loga mira posted:Porn vs erotic art thing essentially. It is imo superficial, not to mention comical. Like you look at her tits and butt first bc thats how it's set up and it's what your mind tells you to do, and then you look at other stuff and are granted like a liberal indulgence for the sin of looking at tits. so would you put, say, amateur furry inflation fetish art on the same level as a technically well executed gustav klimt nude? if not, why, if it's all the same? Colon Semicolon posted:I'm done here but FYI the blatantly sexual robot drawing was meant for a ladyfriend who specifically asked me to design that character for them. It's what they wanted and I was happy to oblige. Also the character with the 'big child like eyes' doesn't have any sexuality to it and I explicitly was trying to go against that. The korean artist did what he wanted and I'm okay with that, but I have no intention of doing that sort of thing to the character myself. Why do you think I changed the image to lower the skirt so there wasn't a weird 'panty shot' on a thing that's born from a dying star? I like expressive eyes on robots, it helps characterize them and helps convey emotion in a way people can understand. They're characters, not machines. ahh the ol' it's not for me, it's for a friend!!! excuse. except that your entire blog is just super sexualized big titted robot ladies...
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 20:08 |
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quite the fucker posted:you get mad every time you see a sexy woman raspy's got opinions on art and he's here to share them
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 22:55 |
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quite the fucker posted:she works in asstown this is true
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 23:51 |
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Delta Echo posted:Interesting & relevant sidenote: Faces, hands, and feet are good indicators of an artist's skill. a better indicator is if they decide a paintover of a disney character without panties is a good idea Parrotine posted:So where are all the chill art communities these days, outside of this one? Been looking for a while now and just can't seem to find anything that'll stick; they seem to be too massive (CA) or just so small they might as well be nonexistant. this is cute! try out tumblr. it's really the only one I know of and you have to kind of build your own community. facebook art groups can be good too.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 20:06 |
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windex posted:You aren't wrong. The problem I've always struggled with is that all textbook definitions of progression just lead to failure on my part, always have, and it's incredibly frustrating. I'm really not trying to be mean here but it really just feels like you're making excuses let's be honest now you may think the way you're doing things leads to improvement but if all you really have to show for it is a floating torso with no hands or feet you might want to rethink the whole giving up on traditional methods of learning art if you put the time and effort in and not just spend a million hours redoing the same thing you WILL improve
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 11:24 |
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maybe do some charcoal drawings? I know this is the digital art thread, but you can draw with a really loose grip with charcoal and that might be a bit easier for you, and you can transfer that looseness into your digital stuff afterwards keep at it!
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2015 01:46 |
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Fangz posted:Did this for a reddit art competition. Warning, anime lesbians. more like anime tricks you into thinking they're lesbians but surprise they're straight cute style, I think you have just enough line in there to work with the painterly style. Reina's head is a little big though
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 07:57 |
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Delta Echo posted:I was ok with the size of her head. They're correctly proportioned for 8-yr-old anime lesbians. they're high schoolers and even for kyoto animation characters the proportions are pretty extreme it's an easy fix though, just elongate both of the torsos a little bit and shrink the heads anime is tricky
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 13:22 |
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cool cool cool this thread is back to robot vaginas I see
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2016 13:51 |
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those robotitties better shoot rockets or lasers or something
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 00:31 |
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scientist who designed the sexy lady fuckbots: listen guys they need boobs ok? they just do. other scientist: uhhh idk Steve they seem pretty pointless to me and the incredibly prominent labia is making everyone really uncomfortable scientist who gets big boners from the lady robots with tits and vaginal lips: DO NOT QUESTION MY DESIGN CARL THEY NEED THEM
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 03:05 |
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Colon Semicolon posted:If memory serves right disney hired some dude that drew vore art at some point. I'd be suprised if anyone in the animation industry isn't aware of the fact that their talent is a highly eccentric bunch. some artists are able to keep their fetishes from showing and creeping everyone out, unlike some people, who may or may not post in this thread
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 17:45 |
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Crap posted:workin' on a new character design very good I like how you can see her fine robot rear end and titties at the same time though may I suggest a little constructive crit I think you could also work some labia in there and maybe some erect robo nips?
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2016 14:10 |
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Elsa posted:it was a two minute thing that ended up whatever it was going to be, so there's no issue. I just wanted to see something on the canvas this time. It is impossible for something to be wrong when there were no standards or goals to start with. hm...no
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 20:13 |
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Elsa posted:you can dislike it. but if you start trying to say it's objectively wrong when it wasn't meant to be anything in particular, that is kind of pointless. the point is, it's bad. you can say it's not bad because really what is bad but as far as rendering goes it's bad and people were trying to help you make it less bad
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 22:28 |
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boobs terrify me... *looks down at chest* OH OH GOD EVERY TIME
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2016 06:15 |
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sometimes robots just want to wear high heels and have big tits it's empowering
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 21:58 |
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I have no issues with porn I've edited porn comics for money and was in a gay porn comic anthology but there is a huge difference between good skillful porn and bad objectifying porn imo erotica has always been a part of art. one of my focuses in school was symbolist art and there is a ton of that, but it was, you know, well drawn and had artistic merit there's not much artistic merit to giant titty robots covered in jizz
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 00:46 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 17:39 |
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Scribblehatch posted:Two responses there: what does this mean
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:01 |