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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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I'll totally vote for him in the elections, it just won't do any good - even in the one in a billion universe he wins and everything else is the same, he'd be able to do even less than usual since both Republicans and Democrats owned by the wealthy would be pulling against anything he wanted that didn't fall in line. But it will definitely feel better than voting for Hillary so thanks for encouraging me. :unsmith:

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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Beef Turret posted:

Every season they trot out some indigo child candidate who could solve everything, but he's only there to trick people into voting and give legitimacy to the whole farce

when the revolution comes those who actually prefer being nihilistic fuckos to having even the barest sliver of hope will be second against the wall (first will be the rich obvs)

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Beef Turret posted:

Face it, you'd have a better chance of effectuating change with a can of spray paint than by throwing away your vote every 4 years. Why degrade yourself like that

if i cared about degrading myself i'd just pop a bullet in my skull cause daily living as a blind welfare queen is already degrading enough. might as well degrade myself with something i can actually feel good about and share with others for a change

but really lol that standing in line and filling out a form is 'degrading', is applying for jobs degrading too?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Cubey posted:

i sincerely believe that if sanders has a measurable impact on disaffected people who do not vote because of how poo poo our politicians are, he will be the next president of the united states

i am easily shamed into at least giving some effort to voting by family but this is actually a vote i can make without holding my nose and that feels great

hoping everyone else who isn't already so dead inside they could not vote for their own born again into socialism mother feels the same!

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Posting for sanity. Posting for socialism. Bernie Sanders

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Quantum Finger posted:

post ITT whenever its "gently caress the koch bros o'clock"


Quantum Finger posted:

post ITT every time there is no reason to vote for hillary clinton

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Kanthulhu posted:

He wouldn't be able to change a drat thing about anything even if he became the president.

it would be worth it for all the olds who think that screaming bloody murder about communism and socialism is a winning strategy against anyone left of putin suddenly having ironclad proof it's actually not shoved in their face. also for showing that yes, the youth will vote but only if the candidate is far enough to the left.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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worst case, this:

rezatahs posted:

maybe not but i wont feel dirty voting for him

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Kanthulhu posted:

Hahahahahaha you sucker believe this poo poo?

The democratic party won't go left unless city bank and JPMorgan suddenly start believing in communism.

if jpmorgan and citibank realize they have to choose between appeasing the left and letting tea "burn government to the motherfucking ground, business arrangements and national stability be damned!!!!!!" partiers win, you bet your rear end they'll be funding New Deal type "moderates".

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Kanthulhu posted:

My point is that politics won't change because the place where the money is coming from won't change and as long as money keeps being the key factor for deciding who wins an election all the good intentions in the hearts of these new politicians won't mean poo poo because no one will know they exist and people will continue to vote for the most expensive campaign.

:ssh: if the people with big money fund candidates that don't win they tend to get real grumpy, and if they find that the reason those guys lost was because even though the unfunded guys crowdsourced their campaign funds from the youth who then outvoted the voter blocks easily bought by corporate candidates they'll eventually either decide there's no profit in backing pure capitalist scum or they'll keep throwing their money away until they haven't got any any more

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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City of Tampa posted:

The only part of Hillary that's going to be pulled to the left is her rhetoric, temporarily. The left doesn't have the kind of money needed to make Hillary change any of her views or plans. Good faith or not, the only role that Bernie's candidacy has in this election is lending legitimacy to Hillary's coronation and bringing stray liberals back to the party for the general election.

The odd part about all of the disagreement with me is that nobody really even questions the fact that Hillary is destined to win and that Bernie will endorse her. If it's fixed then why the gently caress are you helping to make it look like it's not?

it doesn't matter what bernie is coaxed into doing if he drops out of the running, i will not vote for hillary. as long as everyone else here resolves to do the same republican victory be damned it will not matter how much fuckery is being done because the message that we cannot be easily bought will still reign

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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another post on the berning rage

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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Dr.Mrs.The Monarch posted:

It's a waste because the two parties control the election system and stack it against new comers.

yes because ross perot had no effect at all on the election he ran in and george hw bush got two terms. oh wait...

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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

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reignonyourparade posted:

When Bernie sanders starts forcibly converting companies to worker cooperatives, what do you think will be his first pick? My heart tells me Lockheed-martin but if I can be selfish for a bit I'd really like regional employee-sodomizer Boeing.

the banks first, then he can freeze the accounts of any likely counter-revolutionaries.

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