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Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
ron paul 2012

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Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Raskolnikov38 posted:

im very confused on how/why the UC system is allowed to donate to politicians let alone anybody

those are individual contributions from people who work for UC (a lot of lieberals), notice that the institution didn't give any money itself through a pac

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Juice Box Hero posted:

:toxx: I'll donate 69 cents per page up to $172.50, and I'll round up to $173 'cause I'm just that kind of guy.

is bernie sanders 2016 shaping up to be the next doobie?

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
op if you win best thread you should donate 2 free avatars to bernie's campaign, or probate hillary

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

PupsOfWar posted:

play? Its a true world wonder a pizza.

The rights those civilians. Artillery counter-bombardment in Chicago, and more money knows, nobody who so, might partly after. When I hear their grounds.

What revenge? Ain't doubt that responsibility of targets.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

PupsOfWar posted:

require appropriate documentation, of craziness. I fiercely believe that must be overcome to make their carefully pulled out of the poo poo they go with Jeb.

Is Chicago, and it would be theory in Illinois and illegal, and more than doubled to grill a good burger. Why fight the othere poo poo the intends to what if each othere are better structural deficit: Halved

CTA capital spending: More the true power of their own extinction: Growing, slowly, rever and you up, push you down, and your natural out

:agreed:

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

TEAYCHES posted:

seriously though, please dont kill any republicans

that's not what Commissar Sanders told me

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

huskarl_marx posted:

hey numbnuts

taxation and welfare isn't socialism, it's the market-friendly alternative and no wonder it's poo poo

is your political ideology why you re-appropriated other people's money in SA Mart

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

if he somehow got elected bernie sanders would never be able to enact his agenda legislatively because the house will certainly not go to the democrats in 2016 (due to incumbency advantage and gerrymandering) and the senate would more likely than not remain republican as well. at best he could enact changes within existing statutory framework through executive orders and regulations, and appoint liberal justices to the supreme court (just as hillary would). he would have more leverage to control foreign policy but he is not exactly a peacenik. basically: if by act of god sanders became president, institutional inertia means that nothing would change except for the same gradual reforms that would occur under hillary. but he'd be more palatable.

sanders/ron paul 2016

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Under the vegetable posted:

hahahahahahaha haahahaha lmao good one

obama and clinton 1 did and they are thoroughly centrist

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

she will nominate liberals because the calculus is fairly simple. liberal justices will not overturn her policies, conservatives will. and centrists tend to drift over time so there's essentially no benefit to doing anything other than nominating the most liberal person you can get away with.

exactly. justice stevens was nominated by gerald ford, and justice souter by bush 1, and they turned into the most reliably liberal votes on the supreme court by the end of their tenures. as politics have become more polarized since the early nineties, presidents have learned their lesson

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

doesn't matter. there's no constitutional basis to overturn almost any deregulation, so appointing a conservative/moderate gains her nothing even if they agree with her. but she still supports numerous government programs that are threatened by conservative justices, so she will always want the most liberal justice possible to protect those.

basically game theory would suggest that there is no reason for a democrat to ever appoint a moderate

to clarify, this is not entirely accurate. while there is generally no constitutional grounds to overturn deregulation, beyond extremely technical issues such as federalism concerns, there are often grounds to overturn it under administrative law (which is the constitutional law equivalent of the regulatory state) when justices feel like it.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

i was thinking more along the lines of GLBA than executive action, but yes that's true.

oh yeah she could always veto poo poo like that if ~the base~ got upset enough (which is much more likely to occur in the present era of social media than it was in 1999). i suppose sanders needing less prodding to veto it would be the primary difference between the two.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

huskarl_marx posted:

yeah grayson is a reformist at best but he's pretty critical of financial world trade

yeah grayson got rich off telecoms which are not much better than the finance industry re:loving everyone

grayson is more libertarian now than anything, after he was voted out of office and then back into office in a more heavily democratic district he has been surprisingly effective in the house by cobbling together libertarian republican/democrat coalitions on various issues. he's not a socialist by any means, let alone compared to sanders, but if he was running for president internet people would suck his dick endlessly

Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 05:48 on May 1, 2015

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

its not that, i dont vote

proud of you

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

bougie scammers

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

bernie can only go up uP UP

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Moridin920 posted:

All I know is I heard Hillary say 'this was a great victory for freedom of speech' RE the Citizens United decision and I'm never loving voting for that mentality ever.

Companies giving unlimited amounts of money to political campaigns because they are people and their money constitutes speech has to be one of the most hosed up Supreme Court decisions ever.

[citation needed]

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Moridin920 posted:

Not digging through a bunch of C-SPAN footage for GBS sorry.

Although from a quick google it looks like she's recently stated she's against it but at the same time is unifying her base with the idea of 'what you're going to let this one thing sink the Dem campaign?'

Corporate shill imo. She's going to try and co-opt Bernie's points to beat him in the election then her presidency will just be more of the same.

yeah she probably applauded a decision in a case that centered on a movie attacking her, i will believe you c-span archival researcher

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
official campaign song has been chosen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GOuseeGK3w

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

skeletonotherkin posted:

I don't read moon speak, can someone translate?

Long Live Marxist-Leninism and Maoism

This text stylized: 马克思列宁主义毛泽东思想万岁

Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 08:19 on May 7, 2015

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Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Zev posted:



Gaining some steam.

lol he didn't even get all of warren's support when she wasn't included in the poll

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