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Coal -> Hydro -> Oil -> Natural Gas -> Nuclear -> Wind -> Solar -> MICROWAVE -> Fusion. It seems to me like we're skipping a very important part of technology. Because of the rich wealthy classes wanting to get the most out of their oil dollars they're sabotaging things like the electric car, and skipping straight to fusion energy even though we already have the technology to easily put satellites into orbit around the planet. This is most likely a stalling strategy by the power classes that are in control. I don't know much about fusion power but from what I've read, even though we're making progress it's still a long way off. At the current time in our species tech tree it makes more sense to put satellites into orbit that will then beam the suns energy back to earth to a microwave power plant. It is both economically viable and the dividends will be huge on this technology's stocks. The big problem though is that the central bankers already know about this. They're choosing to skip this part of the technology tree because the sooner we have alternatives to oil, the sooner their oil dollars will plummet. If there are any fusion goons here, I'd love to hear your take on fusion power plants. What, if anything, can we do about this??
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Quantum mechanics means that everything possible is happening at once - therefore, there is free energy emanating from every point in the universe. My invention allows you to harness this latent energy to iron your hair, heat your pancakes, etc etc. Any central bankers please contact me at groovy_dude69@yahoo.biz
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Apr 15, 2015 00:26
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Frykte posted:Coal -> Hydro -> Oil -> Natural Gas -> Nuclear -> Wind -> Solar -> MICROWAVE -> Fusion. I usually just use nuclear until fusion unlocks and by them I'm in arcologies anyhow.
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Apr 15, 2015 00:32
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Frykte posted:Coal -> Hydro -> Oil -> Natural Gas -> Nuclear -> Wind -> Solar -> MICROWAVE -> Fusion. Uh what about when the beam misses the massive dish smart guy? Especially after you defunded the FD to afford the thing?!
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de_dust posted:Uh what about when the beam misses the massive dish smart guy? Especially after you defunded the FD to afford the thing?! The odds of this happening are astronomical and not worth worrying about in my opinion. Nice big intelligent looking graph Palace of Hate, mind telling us plebeians what exactly it means??
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Apr 15, 2015 01:11
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Frykte posted:Nice big intelligent looking graph Palace of Hate, mind telling us plebeians what exactly it means?? it means it won't work for the same reason your satellite tv goes out when it's raining. also the same reason that your food gets hot when you microwave it. basically you would just be microwaving the atmosphere with somewhere between 100-10000x of the power you recover at the ground "power station"
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Palace of Hate posted:it means it won't work for the same reason your satellite tv goes out when it's raining. also the same reason that your food gets hot when you microwave it. basically you would just be microwaving the atmosphere with somewhere between 100-10000x of the power you recover at the ground "power station" Before you fire the energy laser break the atmospheric pressure with a large metal rod like breaking the water with a cannonball before diving in.
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Apr 15, 2015 01:35
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Palace of Hate posted:it means it won't work for the same reason your satellite tv goes out when it's raining. also the same reason that your food gets hot when you microwave it. basically you would just be microwaving the atmosphere with somewhere between 100-10000x of the power you recover at the ground "power station" I'm no physicist, but those drops correspond to the absorption spectrum of oxygen/nitrogen- and microwaves operate at 1 to 30 GHz, not THz
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Keep in mind that once the satellite is in orbit, it will be able to power itself and send out drones to create these large metal rods. Another solution to the problem is similar to a space elevator: A large tube that runs from the satellite back to earth. If the inside of the tube is made out of mirror or even possibly crystals the satellite will be able to beam energy past the atmosphere. The energy tube doesn't even need to extend all the way back to earth, only past the atmosphere. If we can build an elevator to space then this will be extremely easy.
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Or instead of doing any of that gay poo poo, we just skip microwave power and go onto fusion energy.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:20
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Frykte posted:Before you fire the energy laser break the atmospheric pressure with a large metal rod like breaking the water with a cannonball before diving in. goldmine this thread
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Apr 15, 2015 02:22
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Or instead of doing any of that gay poo poo, we just skip microwave power and go onto fusion energy. This would be a good idea if we knew how close fusion energy is. It could be a month, it could be a century! We're going to eventually be constructing a giant space platform that covers large parts of the earth eventually anyways so it's not like we're going to be wasting our microwave power plant investment. If we discover fusion power during the microwave investments, we can just recycle the microwave satellites to do something else.
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I think you'd worry less about this if you could just find a nice disembodied voice to reticulate your splines.
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I thought this thread was about microwave plasma waste gasifiers, which are more interesting: http://www.icheme.org/events/conferences/past-conferences/2014/gasification-2014/~/media/0B5DFDA953774D3C89ACBFDC679EFCE5.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification
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Didn't we used to have an energy generation mega thread to corral these cranks in one place?
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Pretty sure this is the graph you're looking for:  Unless you're thinking of laser transmission, which yeah is super inefficient. Microwave sucks because it's not nearly directional enough.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:goldmine this thread YOU CAN'T GOLDMINE THIS THREAD! YOU'LL REGRET THIS!
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Frykte posted:Keep in mind that once the satellite is in orbit, it will be able to power itself and send out drones to create these large metal rods. Another solution to the problem is similar to a space elevator: A large tube that runs from the satellite back to earth. If the inside of the tube is made out of mirror or even possibly crystals the satellite will be able to beam energy past the atmosphere. The energy tube doesn't even need to extend all the way back to earth, only past the atmosphere. If we can build an elevator to space then this will be extremely easy. I have personally been doing high-level research into these energy beams and have made several promising breakthroughs that could help to make this idea a reality, OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g91xkISmp2g
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Frykte posted:Before you fire the energy laser break the atmospheric pressure with a large metal rod like breaking the water with a cannonball before diving in. Firing space dick, sir.
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:Firing space dick, sir. 
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ANIME AKBAR posted:Pretty sure this is the graph you're looking for: Job Truniht posted:I'm no physicist, but those drops correspond to the absorption spectrum of oxygen/nitrogen- and microwaves operate at 1 to 30 GHz, not THz pretty sure .01 terahertz is 10 gigahertz
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We'll feed the poor with all the roast birds! Problem solved! Pope Guilty posted:I think you'd worry less about this if you could just find a nice disembodied voice to reticulate your splines. 'Ey girl. Lemme get dem splines from you.
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Apr 15, 2015 03:41
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Palace of Hate posted:it means it won't work for the same reason your satellite tv goes out when it's raining. also the same reason that your food gets hot when you microwave it. basically you would just be microwaving the atmosphere with somewhere between 100-10000x of the power you recover at the ground "power station" Sounds like a great way to experiment with terraforming. What I'm picturing are platforms dotting the Indian ocean, to turn the Nejd wet and restore the cedars of lebanon. How much fresh water could a microwave conceivably create per day of operation?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Sounds like a great way to experiment with terraforming. What I'm picturing are platforms dotting the Indian ocean, to turn the Nejd wet and restore the cedars of lebanon. if you accelerate the incoming microwaves with a turboencabulator you could probably produce anywhere from 69 to 420 grams per microwave squared per fortnight
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My Imaginary GF posted:Sounds like a great way to experiment with terraforming. What I'm picturing are platforms dotting the Indian ocean, to turn the Nejd wet and restore the cedars of lebanon. From what I've read microwave power plants can output as much as 1,600 megawatts. I'm not sure how much fresh water that translates into. edit: My source is a little out-dated I imagine that if scientists actually started working out the kinks it could produce much more than 1,600.
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Frykte posted:From what I've read microwave power plants can output as much as 1,600 megawatts. I'm not sure how much fresh water that translates into. Well lets say you're microwaving the ocean off the west coast of California. Will it help solve this drought? Also, how many 50 megaton nuclear warheads would it take to produce the same atmospheric humidity as one years' worth of microwave beam operation?
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Frykte posted:From what I've read microwave power plants can output as much as 1,600 megawatts. I'm not sure how much fresh water that translates into. What good is 1,600 megawatts when you are actively frying the atmosphere that sustains life on this planet. http://www.esa.int/gsp/ACT/doc/ARI/ARI%20Study%20Report/ACT-RPT-NRG-ARI-04-9102-Environmental_impacts_of%20microwave_beams-Report.pdf CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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This thread is dumb. You are dumb. This forum used to have non dumb users. What the gently caress happened?
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we could just build like 100 nuclear power plants instead of this stupid rear end bullshit
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Read the entire thread before replying please. It won't hurt the atmosphere because it's either going through a tube for the length of the atmosphere, or a metal rod will make a path for the microwaves.
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Frykte posted:Read the entire thread before replying please. It won't hurt the atmosphere because it's either going through a tube for the length of the atmosphere, or a metal rod will make a path for the microwaves. the dankest coaxial cable ever to be conceived
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Frykte posted:Read the entire thread before replying please. It won't hurt the atmosphere because it's either going through a tube for the length of the atmosphere, or a metal rod will make a path for the microwaves. Or, and this is a big one, we could build an nuclear power plant with equivalent output and not even bother with record shattering massive metal rods and giant tubes. But that's just me. PerpetualSelf posted:This thread is dumb. You are dumb. This forum used to have non dumb users. What the gently caress happened? You happened.
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what if like, all the air escapes out of the metal rod into space, what then???!?!?
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Palace of Hate posted:what if like, all the air escapes out of the metal rod into space, what then???!?!? Then we have to make a Hollywood action film starring Bruce Willis about saving the world.
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CommieGIR posted:Or, and this is a big one, we could build an nuclear power plant with equivalent output and not even bother with record shattering massive metal rods and giant tubes. There's already a gigantic source of nuclear energy in space called The Sun. We can spend money creating more nuclear power plants or we can spend money grabbing all the free energy from the sun.
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Frykte posted:Read the entire thread before replying please. It won't hurt the atmosphere because it's either going through a tube for the length of the atmosphere, or a metal rod will make a path for the microwaves. Could we attach a double pully to the tube, and synergize the core pillars?
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Frykte posted:There's already a gigantic source of nuclear energy in space called The Sun. We can spend money creating more nuclear power plants or we can spend money grabbing all the free energy from the sun. theres too many magnetic field lines, air molecules, and delta velocities between us and that idiot
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What's truly horrible is that as stupid as this sounds to anyone with like, two active braincells, there are groups getting funding to pursue this poo poo.
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Palace of Hate posted:theres too many magnetic field lines, air molecules, and delta velocities between us and that idiot Could we maybe deploy some flaps and sail on the solar winds? It'd win the war on terrorism.
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