Wear OS: I'm not rich, just stupid

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bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Fitbit is going to use a ton less battery.

Also, depending on the size of the GW6, that has a pretty big impact on longevity.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2023 18:29

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 03:27

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Doesn't matter. Galaxy Watches only charge from Galaxy phones. They are technically using Qi protocol, but the coils are too small and the power draw too little for broad compatibility.

Even some Samsung wireless charging pads won't charge a Galaxy Watch.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2023 05:11

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Rap Game Goku posted:

It wasn't advertised to use Qi, but it did.

Pretty much the same as the GW in that regard. The coils were too small and power draw was too low for regular Qi chargers to work.

I don't think a wearable NEEDS to have wireless charging, but I do think there should be some small device charging standard so we can minimize the chargers involved. I have 80 billion GW chargers now though since they don't want the chargers back on trade in.

One thing to remember if you happen to have the charger adapter but no power bank or outlet, you can plug the adapter into the USB port of your phone and charge the watch that way, drawing power from your phone.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2023 17:08

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

FYI. Best Buy is currently giving $115 in trade for the Fossil Gen 5 on a wide selection of devices which is SUPER generous. There's only been 1 Gen 5 even listed on Swappa in the past few months and it was in Oct and sold for $73 (so, more like $50ish after fees and shipping.)

Not WearOS, but I decided to use that along with a $100 price cut to dip my toes into the Garmin pool and picked up an Instinct 2x Solar for $249.09 after trade (normal MSRP is $449). Figured that was cheap enough to try out the ecosystem. At any rate, it was a good way to get rid of an older Fossil stuck on WearOS 2 with likely a ticking time bomb for a battery.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2024 04:52

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

If your issue seems to be with Messages, I've noticed those can be wonky if you haven't actually launched the standalone messages app for WearOS. So if you haven't done that, I would try it.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 22:33

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

TheDK posted:

Fingers crossed for some mind-blowing new WearOS device from CES tomorrow, or I'm doing the Best Buy trade in on my fossil gen 5 and picking up a Samsung 6 classic.

I doubt it. Fossil is apparently waiting on the next gen Qualcomm processor if they do anything at all and I don't think OnePlus will announce at CES.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I tried that, then someone texted me (via RCS if that matters) and no vibrate Not even a notification dot on the watch. I could use the crown/swipe to scroll to the notifications and the text was there, but no alert for it

I'm stumped then too. Haven't had an issue with notifications on WearOS for awhile.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2024 00:41

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

That's strange, notifications should still come through if you are cloud connected.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2024 21:27

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Currently, the Pixel Watch 2 has the most accurate wrist based heartrate tracking for Android (Garmin included). There's a rumor that we'll finally get a larger size for the Pixel Watch 3 this year.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2024 00:48

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Resdfru posted:

Who tests and certifies that? Or is that from your testing? How does the pixel compare to the apple watch?

Look up Quantified Scientist on YouTube. He's been doing very comprehensive tests for awhile.

Nothing tops Apple devices really right now, but the PS2 comes close enough that it's really dependent on what exercise type you do.

Garmin is surprisingly just OK when it comes to heart rate, but the strength there is the ability to use external sensors.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2024 02:02

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

You are going to need something the size of pipboy to get week long battery life from any smart watch platform.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2024 20:40

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Garmin not a full smartwatch platform. There's a very limited set of 'apps' and customizations you can do with it. The SoC is very scaled down compared to what a full smartwatch platform would have.

WearOS watches are essentially running full Android with all the flexibility and pitfalls that entail. That uses a lot more power

# ¿ Jan 26, 2024 22:25

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Garmin has it's pros and cons. That watch specifically though is more expensive than Google or Samsung's entire range.

I like my Instinct 2x, but mostly for the fact that I can pair an external HR tracker to it. The sleep tracking is kinda crap and now that I established an HRV baseline, I'm probably going back to the Pixel Watch 2 for sleep tracking until I want to see if I've made any improvements.

What the Instinct can't do is unlock my back door from my wrist before I get out of the car in the rain or freeform a response to messaging or show my grocery store rewards card without digging out my wallet or show my flight's boarding pass.

But I'll sure as hell wear it if I wanted to track GPS for something or wanted to wear something more rugged or was swimming with it.

I'm going on a trip to Hawaii in a month and I'm probably going to bring both the Instinct and one of my Galaxy watches. What I will wear will depend on what I'm doing for the day.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2024 21:03

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

OnePlus Watch 2 is launching Feb 26th and it's supposed to be using WearOS this time.

https://www.oneplus.com/us/launch/watch-2

# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 15:22

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

v1ld posted:

I haven't paid any attention to WearOS watches outside of the GW4 Classic I wear. Do all these watches come with their own health tracking apps or do they feed into whatever it is that Google's goldfish product management have decided to call their app today?

They have their own health tracking. Hopefully it's made with Health Connect so stuff is portable.

On that, I noticed that Fitibit added "read" permissions in Health Connect recently instead of just Write. I haven't seen it ingest data from health connect yet though, but maybe that's coming.

That really would be my ideal. As of right now Samsung Health gets sleep data, steps, workouts, and heart rate from fitbit via health connect when I wear my Pixel Watch 2. I keep hoping for the reverse when wearing my Galaxy Watch. The stuff goes into Health Connect and Fit picks up on it, but fitbit thus far doesn't ingest the data.

Mobvoi health also pushes some metrics to Health Connect as well.

I really wish Garmin would implement health connect, then everything would feed into that one central repo.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 20, 2024

# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 23:05

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Google has made ingesting of data into Fitbit official today.

quote:

See a more complete picture of your health right in the redesigned Fitbit app through Health Connect — with data from your favorite wearables and apps like AllTrails, Oura Ring and MyFitnessPal. In the Fitbit app on your Android phone, head to the You tab to see data from connected apps next to your Fitbit data. And in the Today tab, you can see data like exercise, steps, calories burned, floors climbed and distance traveled from Health Connect-compatible apps.

I haven't seen it pull in anything from Samsung Health yet though. It's not mentioned by name here, but it is Health Connect compatible though

It might tempt me to get an Oura Ring as well since it was announced today that the Samsung Ring is going to be galaxy devices only at start.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 14:59

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

OnePlus Watch 2 launch event is happing right now. Looks like they are doing a hybrid system with WearOS 4 and RTOS for long battery life. It will be dual OS.

Looks like it's going to be dual band GPS as well which I think is a first for WearOS devices.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 16:21

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/26/24081349/wear-os-4-oneplus-hybrid-wearables-smartwatches

Looks like the hybrid stuff is making it's way into mainline WearOS.

quote:

Since 2018, Wear OS watches generally have had an application processor (AP) to handle power-intensive tasks and an ultra-low-power co-processor microcontroller unit (MCU) for always-on tasks like step counting and heart rate. The update will let wearable makers offload notification processing to the MCU. That includes the ability to read and dismiss notifications as well as send quick replies.

This capability was added specifically for the OnePlus Watch 2, which was also announced today, but Bjorn Kilburn, vice president of Wear OS by Google, says other companies will be able to use it going forward. �The OnePlus Watch 2 is the first Wear OS device to implement the hybrid interface for bridged notifications, enabling the user to view and dismiss notifications on the MCU without waking up the AP. This allows the high-performance AP to stay asleep more, further saving battery life,� says Kilburn. OnePlus� second-gen watch will purportedly get up to 100 hours on a single charge.

OHealth (which is Oneplus's health tracking app) will be integrated in Health Connect.

There's a google rep at the launch event talking about the WearOS 4 optimizations. This should silence some of the people saying Google was playing favorites with Samsung.

Transit schedules now on Google Maps for WearOS.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 26, 2024

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 16:35

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The charger is kinda interesting for it. It's a magnetic puck with contacts, but the puck actually has a USBC port on it. So for travel, you can just toss the puck in your bag and not have a cable trailing from it.

That's really nice because if you are charging at home, chances are you have the wires routed somewhere and don't want to dig everything up if you were going somewhere. That's why I like to have multiple different chargers for the watches I have. But with this, you can just disconnect at the puck end and leave the cable plugged in.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 17:18

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Probably a slow roll, it's #8 on this list.

https://blog.google/products/android/new-android-features-february-2024/

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 17:23

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

More info about the hybrid mode stuff.

https://9to5google.com/2024/02/26/wear-os-4-hybrid-interface/

quote:

Bridged notifications from your phone are delivered to the watch “without waking up the high-performance AP.” You can read/expand and dismiss notifications using the co-processor, with the MCU also able to handle quick replies, remote actions, and other wearable-specific notification actions, like archiving.

Also of note is how you can view the watch face and swipe through Tiles on the MCU. Tapping a Tile or complication would open an Activity and seamlessly transition to the AP, while sending full notification replies will do the same.

Pretty cool stuff.

This would be a great addition to a future Galaxy Watch 7 Pro. Crazy battery life. This would also be something really good for Mobvoi to adopt, but they need to pull their head out of their rear end as far as support goes before I would recommend their stuff anymore.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Feb 26, 2024

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 17:32

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Yeah, I did too.

They give $50 off for ANY device trade in (spoiler alert, if you do the "any condition" trade in with OnePlus, they don't actually ask for you to send the device, they just give you a link to order a recycling label.)

I also paid a buck for the $50 off coupon for preorder. So I'm getting one for $211.99 shipped.

Only thing is if I'm going to get it in time, leaving for vacation on the 7th and the initial order page says delivery on the 7th for expedited and 8th for free shipping. But when I checked out, it changed to the 6th for estimated delivery with free shipping.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 17:39

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

No idea, it's still very limited information.

The Oura Ring tracks steps, so it would seem like it would be missing a pretty big thing if it didn't. Step tracking is like table stakes now.

I doubt it has GPS though, too small.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 19:20

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Seems like a constant refrain with this watch is "I got 4 full days and still had 20% left when I put it on charge" which is pretty drat nice.

Some reviewers are dinging it for lack of ECG, but that's not something I care too much about as it has a very limited use case. One annoying thing is I saw it mentioned it has no transfer device functionality which I thought was standard in WearOS 4.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 20:08

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Here's all the nuts and bolts about the hybrid stuff.

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2024/02/wear-os-hybrid-interface-boosting-power-and-performance.html

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 20:56

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

At this point, I almost think it's something wrong with the messages app on your phone if it survived a factory reset. I can't say I've ever had that issue and I've moved my Pixel Watch 2 between 3 different phones.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 01:29

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Vagrancy posted:

The Health Connect integration GIF creates more questions than answers on how well it actually works in practice. The Health Connect tag on the Step goal suggests that its not completely silo'd and some Fitbit rings can be closed via Health connect, yet said Step Goal count is less than half of the shown native Fitbit tracker count and the Me tab HC sections Oura ring count. I'll be optimistic and chalk it up to it being fake data for their marketing and not that Google's built from the ground up replacement also managed to recreate Fit's data latency issues. Guess we'll find out since Google will probably start strongarming companies like Niantic to switch since the old Google Fit system is due to be shut down this year,

It's been interesting to watch the incremental improvements of health connect, but there's still a lot of weirdness.

Samsung health seems to have no issues anymore bringing in heartrate from fitbit. So, when I wear my Pixel Watch, the heartrate readings end up in Samsung Health pretty consistently.

Workouts tracked in Fitbit also did a pretty good job of showing up in Samsung Health.

Sleep is a mixed bag. It nearly always has the correct "time in bed" from Fitbit in Samsung Health, but only sometimes imports all the sleep stages. I'm not sure what the rhyme or reason is for that.

Steps, despite Samsung Health having access to read steps from Health Connect, it's not igesting them. Fit manages to have my combined steps from Fitbit and Samsung Health pretty consistantly, but Samsung Health won't show the fitbit steps.

So, since Samsung Health has been pretty unreliable about bringing all the metrics together, my hope is that Fitbit will do better. But I agree, there are questions. Is it only blending health connect data with fitbit data to display, or is it actually ingesting it fully and making it a part of your fitbit stats that survive beyond the device? I know Fit does. I can open up fit on any of my other devices and see the blended Health Connect metrics from whatever combo of devices I'm using at the time and historically.

What I was hoping for from a Galaxy Ring was something that would track steps and heart rate unobtrusively to put into health connect while I was wearing a my Garmin watch or some other normal watch. I may end up going down the Oura ring route or I may just dust off my old Galaxy Fit 2 to wear on my other wrist in those cases because it's even smaller than my Charge 5.

Finally, I don't know why I care so much since I've never onces really done anything with the metrics.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Feb 27, 2024

# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 16:16

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

lostleaf posted:

So does this mean, old watches like the galaxy watch 5 or 6 will get battery improvements?

Hard to know. The watches certainly have lower powered co-processors to offload some tasks (and do things like provide a low power time only mode) but I have no idea what the hardware requirements are to do something like this and if the whole package layout has to be done a certain way to get everything all wired up correctly.

Cynically, I think even if they could, they wouldn't as it would remove a reason to upgrade to the Galaxy Watch 7 or 8.

I'm starting to get an impeding sense of dread from Samsung's wearable ecosystem as I think it's ripe for them to do a cash grab with subscription services. They talked up AI enhanced metrics at unpacked and I'm really doubting those upgrades are coming for free.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Feb 27, 2024

# ¿ Feb 27, 2024 17:28

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Report is that there will be a 45mm Pixel Watch 3 option. FINALLY.

https://9to5google.com/2024/03/01/45mm-pixel-watch-3-pixel-buds-pro-2/

# ¿ Mar 5, 2024 03:13

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The pros are really good. The ANC isn't quite as strong as some of the bigger players in the market, but they are comfortable. I've taken them on trips instead of my Sonys a few times.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2024 04:16

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

OnePlus Watch 2 has arrived. Pairing process went smooth enough, just charing and updating now. Feels nice and premium in the hand.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2024 16:54

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Some more impressions. Screen is nice. I think all the reviewers bellyaching over the "rotating crown" that does nothing are idiots because the knurling is so subtle so it's very hard to even tell that it's rotating unless you otherwise knew. To be clear, being annoyed that there is no rotating crown functionality is one thing and a valid complaint. The issue is that all the reviews painted it as some big confusing thing "the crown rotates, but it does nothing!" You literally cannot tell that it rotates and had someone not told me it does, I probably wouldn't have noticed. You have to be looking at the watch sideways a few inches from your face to see the mm's worth of knurling move.

The thing isn't vibrating on Gmail notifications. At this point, I feel this is some rite of passage for every WearOS device as I've seen this bug time and time again. The notifications come in, you get the dot showing they are there, but no vibration. Other notifications are vibrating though. It doesn't seem to matter if you have the Gmail app installed or not.

The haptics really aren't that strong unfortunately so I could see it being easy to miss a notification when they do vibrate. It's not TERRIBLE, but I have devices that are much stronger.

The thing is fast. You get really no indication that it's switching between two different operating systems under normal circumstances.

OHealth is pretty bare bones, but it's functional enough. You can even use it without signing into a OnePlus account if you so choose.

I've had it off charge for 3.5 hours and it's down 13% in battery. At that rate, it's not reaching 100 hours, but I have AoD on as well and I've been fiddling with it a lot. Can't really judge battery on the first charge.

It does not have pass through touch functionality like the Pixel Watch 2 meaning that if you don't have raise to wake turned on, your first touch just wakes the device and then you have to perform your action. The Pixel Watch 2 actually allows you to leave raise to wake off and recognizes a swipe or interaction with complication even from a sleeping screen and wakes up and carries out the action.

The Power Saver mode is super super impressive. Now I obvously don't know how much this really extends battery life (if it can reach the 12 days) but the experience is surprisingly feature rich. Using one of the OnePlus watch faces, the face doesn't change at all. All the complications I have on it still work (Weather, Heart Rate, Steps). You can still swipe through the tiles (though interaction with some will be impossible since it can't run the app). Notifications still come though, you just can't reply. However, there is still some two way communication (I was able to delete a Gmail message, not just dismiss the notification, actually delete the message from the watch). All the health metrics are still recorded. Again, super impressive and it's a mode I could see using quite a bit. It really retains the look and feel of the watch and all the tracking while only cutting out full app support. Only downside is you have to reboot to exit it and no option for AoD (which makes sense for a power saver mode). I'm going to be on two 5 hour flights tomorrow and I'm really struggling to think why I wouldn't switch over to this mode during the flights to save battery.

I'm actually starting to wonder about the broader strategy in including this functionality within WearOS itself. I mean, think about it. Google has Fitbit. Samsung has Galaxy Fit. So...reading between the lines, what if the Pixel Watch 3 has a "Fitbit only" mode that turns it into a fitbit to save power. Samsung could do the same and have a low power fitness mode that apes the functionality of a Galaxy Fit. Both could do this while retaining the look and feel of WearOS when in these modes since tiles and watch faces can run on the low power OS.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2024 21:56

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Well, it's now at 44 hours since my last full charge of the OnePlus Watch 2. I left my house at 7:30am Thursday with it, traveled for like 15 hours to get to Hawaii, did sleep tracking and did sight seeing all day in Honolulu and the watch is at 43%. This is with AoD and lift to wake on. So, it looks like it can hit around 70 hours with AoD on.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2024 09:42

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I took my OnePlus Watch 2 on my 10 day trip to Hawaii.

First the good stuff. The battery is the real deal. I went a bit over 70 hours with AoD on after I left before I got below 20% from the time I left home. Charging is also similarly fast. After about a half hour of charging, I was back up above 80%. The fact that the charging puck does not have an built in cable is a game changer for travel. So much better for packing and makes it easy to use the same charger at home and travel. I guess it's marginally easier to lose as a result, but the convenience outweighs that.

No real issues with connectivity to my Pixel 8 pro. Notifications came through just fine other than Gmail notifications not vibrating the watch as I noted earlier. I feel like all my watches have had that bug at one point or another so I'm hoping it will eventually go away.

The watch has the right sense of weight without feeling heavy and the display was easy to read under all conditions. I used it for contactless payments without issue as well. The NFC antenna seems to be pretty good and near the top of the watch so it's easy to get aligned to the POS terminal. I also didn't have any issue with the alarm going off to wake me up which I was a little worried about due to the hybrid system.

Now to the bad. Unless you just care about step count and background heart rate tracking, this device is next to useless. Granted, I didn't try any workouts on it, but it didn't seem to automatically detect extended waking intervals like my Galaxy Watches do after 10 minutes. Several times I got notifications that I hit step goals or calorie burning goals only to have a notification the next day that I didn't hit any goals for the previous day and I should try better this day. Sleep tracking was hit or miss. Even if I'm not looking at sleep stage accuracy, some days it just didn't register sleep or only registered like an hour of sleep for the prior night. This is despite the fact that I put it into sleep mode when I went to bed which should give the watch a pretty specific hint that I'm going to sleep. Now, after I got back, all of the sleep metrics are time shifted 6 hours since I changed time zones. That's just sloppy. Neither Fitbit nor Samsung health make that mistake, sleep periods remain localized to the time zone the sleep occurred in. When I went to Iceland, my sleep period didn't get shifted 5 hours back when I got home when my Watch 5 Pro tracked sleep there. But now, all the sleep periods that the OnePlus Watch 2 did track in Hawaii now have their times starting 5-6am and ending 12-1 pm. This also throws off the sleep score since it now things I'm napping for some of those periods since it was during the day.

I also noticed that the watch goes into "hibernation" mode during the night which is similar to the dedicated low power mode and requires a reboot to exit from. Most nights, I didn't notice it because I think it exits it on its own before you wake up, but one time I noticed the watch on the OnePlus logo and throught it had crashed and rebooted on its own.

So, the thing is not without its bugs. The battery life and performace are rock solid, some of the best that's out there for WearOS. The build quality is similarly good, being a nice size and substantial without feeling overly chunky and heavy. The smartwatch portions of it work as well as any other WearOS watch as well. It's just the health and fitness tracking stuff that's bad and I think it may be the worst one of the bunch out there right now for those things.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 17:33

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The Pixel Watch is pretty much the best wrist based wearable available to Android and rivals the Apple Watches.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 19:07

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

teethgrinder posted:

What do Apple Watches do that the Samsung ones don't?

Be accurate?

Seriously though, the sleep stage tracking on the Galaxy Watches against a known good dedicated sleep tracker as well as heart rate tracking during vigorous workouts compared to a chest strap are only marginally ok.

Apple is working some amazing filtering on their heat rate data to reject outlier bad readings and only things using Fitbit algorithms on the Android side come close.

Wrist based tracking of anything is incredibly error prone and you need good false reading rejection to get a clean and data stream and Samsung just haven't cracked that nut yet. It's good enough to be mostly usable, but just isn't as accurate as the leaders in the space.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 19:30

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

CLAM DOWN posted:

if I record a walk/bike/hike/etc on a Pixel Watch 2, is it possible to export the KML file of that activity? I can't find anything in the Fitbit app for this.

If you go to Fitbit on the web, you can export a TCX for an activity. That may have all the data you are looking for, but I haven't really gone into it.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 19:36

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

From what I gather there's a bug in fitbit that has existed for years that unless the activity has GPS data in it, the TCX actually is pretty much empty. So, it works for GPS tracked activities, but for non-GPS ones you don't get any usefal data.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 20:45

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

To my knowledge, there's no NFC based house unlock with any Wear device. Maybe that will come later with rumors of Google adding UWB to the Pixel Watch 3.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2024 18:57

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Yeah, same update on Watch 6 too.

Rumors are heating up about the Watch 7. There appear to be 3 variants this time, suggesting a Standard, Classic, and Pro model (or alternatively an FE model rather than Classic or Pro.)

There are also rumors that Samsung is considering going square for some of the lineup (which I really wouldn't be on board with, at least not across the line.)

More storage and more RAM and rumored that we may finally see a significant SoC upgrade since the lineup started which Samsung is in dire need of because the Pixel Watch 2, Oneplus Watch 2, and TicWatch Pro 5 kinda embarrass the whole Galaxy Watch line in performance.

Hopefully we'll see the hybrid system implemented like the OnePlus Watch 2.

That said, I'm getting less excited for the new Samsung Watch releases YoY as they don't really seem to be adding anything significant. I would like a pro with more recent internals and the larger screen of the 6 series, but I doubt I'll replace my 6 Classics with a 7 Classic unless something really huge changes.

I'm mainly worried they are going to go 2nd paid tier in Samsung Health and all the AI analysis they are talking about is going to end up behind a paywall.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2024 17:26

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 03:27

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

I would wait 3 months for the 7 as well.

GW 4-6 all essentially have the same SoC in them and it's due for a real upgrade. Both the W920 and W930 are dual core A55 based SoCs on a 5nm process. The W930 just has a slightly higher max clock speed likely due to process improvements The only real difference betwen the 4/5 and the 6 is the 6 got more ram (and larger display). The only real upgrade for the 5 over the 4 was the the sapphire glass.

Pixel Watch 2 along with Ticwatch Pro 5 and OnePlus Watch 2 are all on the W5 platform which is a quad core platform (4nm 4xA53 cores) with an additional co-processor (M33 or M55 depending on if W5 or W5+). The performance difference is noticeable.

Additionally, there's the whole dual architecture thing that debuted on the OnePlus Watch 2 and I would really hope that Samsung would implement that on their next watch because that will really enhance battery life across the board.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 01:50

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